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  "id": 430034,
  "title": "Scores over ranking? ",
  "url": "/competitions/2023-kaggle-ai-report/discussion/430034",
  "author_name": "AC",
  "post_date": "2023-08-08T03:29:59.534000",
  "votes": 7,
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  "content": "<p>Hello there. Regarding the results, I can see it's just the rankings that are declared, I cannot speak for all as to how many agree but as a participant, I feel it would have been more helpful to get a score and see how far they have been lagged behind or are ahead wrt other participants. Also, it would be more beneficial for participants to have a detailed review based on which these rankings are given so that they can know the areas that needed improvement. It would help the participants in the long run. A mere ranking in front of their names on the leaderboard ain't going to help enough to improve when one doesn't know which were the strong and weak points of their article. </p>",
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      "postDate": "2023-08-08T03:29:59.533Z",
      "content": "<p>Hello there. Regarding the results, I can see it's just the rankings that are declared, I cannot speak for all as to how many agree but as a participant, I feel it would have been more helpful to get a score and see how far they have been lagged behind or are ahead wrt other participants. Also, it would be more beneficial for participants to have a detailed review based on which these rankings are given so that they can know the areas that needed improvement. It would help the participants in the long run. A mere ranking in front of their names on the leaderboard ain't going to help enough to improve when one doesn't know which were the strong and weak points of their article. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hello there. Regarding the results, I can see it's just the rankings that are declared, I cannot speak for all as to how many agree but as a participant, I feel it would have been more helpful to get a score and see how far they have been lagged behind or are ahead wrt other participants. Also, it would be more beneficial for participants to have a detailed review based on which these rankings are given so that they can know the areas that needed improvement. It would help the participants in the long run. A mere ranking in front of their names on the leaderboard ain't going to help enough to improve when one doesn't know which were the strong and weak points of their article. ",
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      "id": 2379497,
      "postDate": "2023-08-08T07:26:01.353Z",
      "content": "<p>Releasing results in such a format shouldn't have taken so long. Expected a detailed scoreboard.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Releasing results in such a format shouldn't have taken so long. Expected a detailed scoreboard.",
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          "postDate": "2023-08-08T07:28:36.810Z",
          "content": "<p>Exactly! We are clueless even about the categories, as in which categories have majority of high ranking notebooks. It should have been pretty detailed to avoid so many questions that are being raised at present. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Exactly! We are clueless even about the categories, as in which categories have majority of high ranking notebooks. It should have been pretty detailed to avoid so many questions that are being raised at present. ",
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              "id": 2379507,
              "postDate": "2023-08-08T07:31:30.100Z",
              "content": "<p>Even when a paper is reviewed, doesn't matter if it's accepted for publication or not the author is given a detailed review report to help them improve their paper. Announcing the results like this is definitely not appreciated. </p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Even when a paper is reviewed, doesn't matter if it's accepted for publication or not the author is given a detailed review report to help them improve their paper. Announcing the results like this is definitely not appreciated. ",
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      "postDate": "2023-08-08T04:11:00.197Z",
      "content": "<p>I agree <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ahsuna123\" target=\"_blank\">@ahsuna123</a> the ranking doesn't really say anything about the submission quality or performance on the rubric.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I agree @ahsuna123 the ranking doesn't really say anything about the submission quality or performance on the rubric.",
      "votes": 2,
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          "postDate": "2023-08-08T06:44:31.063Z",
          "content": "<p>Yeah exactly, it's so strange. Even the honorable mentions, there're so many notebooks that are not even mentioned. I am quite taken aback, not because my notebook isn't there but there are so many other notebooks that deserved much much higher ranking than what's given. Also, some of the notebooks atleast to me don't deserve such a higher score where they are placed. It would be helpful to know the criteria of evaluation given we all have spent so much time on it. Regarding, your notebook too, I always believed it would rank much higher than where it stands now. Strange. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Yeah exactly, it's so strange. Even the honorable mentions, there're so many notebooks that are not even mentioned. I am quite taken aback, not because my notebook isn't there but there are so many other notebooks that deserved much much higher ranking than what's given. Also, some of the notebooks atleast to me don't deserve such a higher score where they are placed. It would be helpful to know the criteria of evaluation given we all have spent so much time on it. Regarding, your notebook too, I always believed it would rank much higher than where it stands now. Strange. ",
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      "id": 2379497,
      "author_name": "Adhiraj",
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      "post_date": "2023-08-08T07:26:01.353000",
      "content": "<p>Releasing results in such a format shouldn't have taken so long. Expected a detailed scoreboard.</p>",
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          "author_name": "AC",
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          "post_date": "2023-08-08T07:28:36.810000",
          "content": "<p>Exactly! We are clueless even about the categories, as in which categories have majority of high ranking notebooks. It should have been pretty detailed to avoid so many questions that are being raised at present. </p>",
          "votes": 1,
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              "id": 2379507,
              "author_name": "AC",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-08-08T07:31:30.100000",
              "content": "<p>Even when a paper is reviewed, doesn't matter if it's accepted for publication or not the author is given a detailed review report to help them improve their paper. Announcing the results like this is definitely not appreciated. </p>",
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              "author_name": "",
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              "post_date": "2023-08-08T07:58:52.197000",
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      "id": 2379181,
      "author_name": "Jonathan Bown",
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      "post_date": "2023-08-08T04:11:00.197000",
      "content": "<p>I agree <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ahsuna123\" target=\"_blank\">@ahsuna123</a> the ranking doesn't really say anything about the submission quality or performance on the rubric.</p>",
      "votes": 2,
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          "id": 2379422,
          "author_name": "AC",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-08-08T06:44:31.063000",
          "content": "<p>Yeah exactly, it's so strange. Even the honorable mentions, there're so many notebooks that are not even mentioned. I am quite taken aback, not because my notebook isn't there but there are so many other notebooks that deserved much much higher ranking than what's given. Also, some of the notebooks atleast to me don't deserve such a higher score where they are placed. It would be helpful to know the criteria of evaluation given we all have spent so much time on it. Regarding, your notebook too, I always believed it would rank much higher than where it stands now. Strange. </p>",
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    "2379158": "Hello there. Regarding the results, I can see it's just the rankings that are declared, I cannot speak for all as to how many agree but as a participant, I feel it would have been more helpful to get a score and see how far they have been lagged behind or are ahead wrt other participants. Also, it would be more beneficial for participants to have a detailed review based on which these rankings are given so that they can know the areas that needed improvement. It would help the participants in the long run. A mere ranking in front of their names on the leaderboard ain't going to help enough to improve when one doesn't know which were the strong and weak points of their article. ",
    "2379497": "Releasing results in such a format shouldn't have taken so long. Expected a detailed scoreboard.",
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