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  "id": 927,
  "title": "deep learning methods tried yet?",
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  "post_date": "2011-10-07T12:53:29.177Z",
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  "content": "<p>We're at around the halfway point of the competition; thanks to everyone who has submitted results so far!</p>\r\n<p>I wanted to check in and see if anyone has applied deep learning methods or deep auto-encoders so far. &nbsp;Have they helped?</p>\r\n<p>What other methods have folks tried that have worked well -- or not as well as expected?</p>",
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      "postDate": "10/07/2011 12:53:29",
      "content": "<p>We're at around the halfway point of the competition; thanks to everyone who has submitted results so far!</p>\r\n<p>I wanted to check in and see if anyone has applied deep learning methods or deep auto-encoders so far. &nbsp;Have they helped?</p>\r\n<p>What other methods have folks tried that have worked well -- or not as well as expected?</p>",
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      "postDate": "10/08/2011 02:01:54",
      "content": "<p>I've been spending much of my &quot;free&quot; time trying to make sense out of the sqishy low-fidelity Heritage Health data (got a late start), so my original intention was to avoid this contest.&nbsp; Unfortunately I've always been fascinated by dimensionality reduction\r\n problems, so I couldn't stay away; more unfortunately I didn't start until yesterday.&nbsp; Even though I have very little time (human or compute) available to throw at this, I'll try to get a few submissions done during the next 9 days.&nbsp; But no guarantees.</p>\r\n<p>You asked about deep learning and auto-encoding: My first submission (if I can get the coding and training done) will be a layered SOM-like gizmo of my own design that I've (hopefully!) modified to handle semi-supervised learning.&nbsp; Although not classical\r\n deep learning (no RBMs involved a la Hinton, for example), I believe it has similar intent.</p>\r\n<p>I know it's a little premature to mention this, having submitted nothing at this point.&nbsp; And the whole thing might crash and burn.&nbsp; But since nobody else has responded I thought I'd get the ball rolling.</p>\r\n<p>By the way, given more time it would be fun to see how far the feature count could be reduced and still maintain an acceptable level of accuracy.&nbsp; Since the probability of winning this thing in the amount of time left is infinitesimal, my second submission\r\n may be along these lines...</p>\r\n<p>Thanks for putting this up... fun data!</p>",
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      "postDate": "10/08/2011 02:40:43",
      "content": "<p>@Clueless: &nbsp;I've also been pulled into working on this, even though I have too many other things to do :) &nbsp;</p>\r\n<p>Anyway, I was thinking of using some old RBM code of mine for this, but the last time I used it on this much data it took\r\n<em><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">days</span></em> of runtime &amp; multiple runs to get it tuned properly. &nbsp;Given that experience &amp; the short timeframe, &nbsp;I've been focusing on prototyping some other methods.</p>",
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      "postDate": "10/08/2011 03:05:10",
      "content": "<p>I know what you mean Chris.&nbsp; I have some RBM code that I thought about using, too, but I haven't touched it since the Netflix competition - and even then it did indeed take days of processing to get anything useful out of it.&nbsp; Plus I wrote the darn thing\r\n in about 20 hours, near the end of the competition, so the code is NOT optimal. I did sketch out some strategies for using CUDA with it (but moved on to other things).&nbsp; Ah well...</p>",
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      "post_date": "10/08/2011 02:01:54",
      "content": "<p>I've been spending much of my &quot;free&quot; time trying to make sense out of the sqishy low-fidelity Heritage Health data (got a late start), so my original intention was to avoid this contest.&nbsp; Unfortunately I've always been fascinated by dimensionality reduction\r\n problems, so I couldn't stay away; more unfortunately I didn't start until yesterday.&nbsp; Even though I have very little time (human or compute) available to throw at this, I'll try to get a few submissions done during the next 9 days.&nbsp; But no guarantees.</p>\r\n<p>You asked about deep learning and auto-encoding: My first submission (if I can get the coding and training done) will be a layered SOM-like gizmo of my own design that I've (hopefully!) modified to handle semi-supervised learning.&nbsp; Although not classical\r\n deep learning (no RBMs involved a la Hinton, for example), I believe it has similar intent.</p>\r\n<p>I know it's a little premature to mention this, having submitted nothing at this point.&nbsp; And the whole thing might crash and burn.&nbsp; But since nobody else has responded I thought I'd get the ball rolling.</p>\r\n<p>By the way, given more time it would be fun to see how far the feature count could be reduced and still maintain an acceptable level of accuracy.&nbsp; Since the probability of winning this thing in the amount of time left is infinitesimal, my second submission\r\n may be along these lines...</p>\r\n<p>Thanks for putting this up... fun data!</p>",
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      "author_name": "chefele",
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      "content": "<p>@Clueless: &nbsp;I've also been pulled into working on this, even though I have too many other things to do :) &nbsp;</p>\r\n<p>Anyway, I was thinking of using some old RBM code of mine for this, but the last time I used it on this much data it took\r\n<em><span style=\"text-decoration:underline\">days</span></em> of runtime &amp; multiple runs to get it tuned properly. &nbsp;Given that experience &amp; the short timeframe, &nbsp;I've been focusing on prototyping some other methods.</p>",
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      "content": "<p>I know what you mean Chris.&nbsp; I have some RBM code that I thought about using, too, but I haven't touched it since the Netflix competition - and even then it did indeed take days of processing to get anything useful out of it.&nbsp; Plus I wrote the darn thing\r\n in about 20 hours, near the end of the competition, so the code is NOT optimal. I did sketch out some strategies for using CUDA with it (but moved on to other things).&nbsp; Ah well...</p>",
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