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  "id": 9668,
  "title": "Is there any way to reconsider \"Deadline for new entrants\"?",
  "url": "/competitions/acquire-valued-shoppers-challenge/discussion/9668",
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  "post_date": "2014-07-08T01:09:35.560Z",
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  "content": "<p>I just missed the deadline for new entrants by half an hour. That is really painful.</p>\n\n<p>Is there any way to make an exception and extend this deadline? A lot of hard work just went to waste.</p>",
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      "id": "50114",
      "postDate": "07/08/2014 01:09:35",
      "content": "<p>I just missed the deadline for new entrants by half an hour. That is really painful.</p>\n\n<p>Is there any way to make an exception and extend this deadline? A lot of hard work just went to waste.</p>",
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      "id": "50115",
      "postDate": "07/08/2014 01:24:47",
      "content": "<p>This is really absurd. In the timeline of this competition, no deadline was mentioned for &quot;First Submission&quot;. How should a participant know that &quot;Deadline for new entrants&quot; should be interpreted as &quot;Deadline for first submission&quot;?</p>",
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      "id": "50116",
      "postDate": "07/08/2014 01:50:10",
      "content": "<p>Same here... Since the competition was shown as &quot;Active&quot; on my profile and I had already accepted the &quot;rules and stuff &quot; I thought it was ok, but when I tried to submit ~40 mins ago, the system didn't allowed.</p>\n\n<p>Additionally, as you can see in kdd cup 2014 timeline, it's written pretty clear: &quot;July 8, 2014 - First Submission Deadline. Your team must make its first submission by this deadline&quot;. This opened space for misinterpretation here.</p>",
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      "id": "50117",
      "postDate": "07/08/2014 02:40:41",
      "content": "<p>We almost never make exceptions to rules, but I think we will here. The language on the timeline is the old text (from before we made the change to the deadline being based on first submission). I agree that it was&nbsp;not sufficiently clear and you should not be punished for missing it.</p>\n<p>I'll bump it out one day - you must now make your first submission by&nbsp;7/8/2014 11:59 PM UTC. Sorry for the confusion!</p>",
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      "id": "50118",
      "postDate": "07/08/2014 03:18:02",
      "content": "<p>Thank you very much William. You made my day.&nbsp;It certainly is a great relief to know that my first participation in Kaggle has not been a total failure :)</p>",
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      "id": "50174",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 06:04:31",
      "content": "<p>Can you just do away with the &quot;First Submission&quot; deadline in the first place? I can understand cutting off team mergers at some point but what is the purpose of preventing people from submitting something? I had no idea this was the rule, and didn't see that there was an extension until about 5 minutes ago. This is incredibly annoying.&nbsp;</p>",
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    {
      "id": "50175",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 07:05:42",
      "content": "<p>I second what pezlogd said. I didn't see it and when I did I had to board a flight.</p>",
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      "id": "50178",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 07:43:45",
      "content": "<p>I was not aware of this that first entry needs to be submitted tillv8th July. Its the first time i was participating in Kaggle and i was very enthusiastic. Can you please extend the date?</p>",
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    },
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      "id": "50179",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 07:44:05",
      "content": "<p>I was not aware of this that first entry needs to be submitted tillv8th July. Its the first time i was participating in Kaggle and i was very enthusiastic. Can you please extend the date?</p>",
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    },
    {
      "id": "50198",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 13:30:32",
      "content": "<p>+1 on the extension extension ...</p>",
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      "id": "50205",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 14:41:03",
      "content": "<p>the same situation. I&nbsp;was building model for&nbsp;three weeks and only today have got something interesting((</p>",
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    {
      "id": "50208",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 15:03:33",
      "content": "<p>Me too.</p>\n<p>I thought by accepting the terms &amp; downloading the data, you were entered into the competition.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Doesn't really make sense that you have to make a submission (in all likelihood with the supplied sample/random/test submission) to enter. What does that prove - that you can upload a file with random data?</p>\n<p>As I precaution, I've now made submissions to all my competitions with random data.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "50228",
      "postDate": "07/09/2014 21:29:05",
      "content": "<p>Well said @kmcd.</p>\n<p>I also fail to see what logical purpose this &quot;early submission deadline&quot; serves.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "451195",
      "postDate": "01/06/2019 15:00:22",
      "content": "<p>no such thing as got or interesx or not, cepit, any be any interesx nmw</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "no such thing as got or interesx or not, cepit, any be any interesx nmw",
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      "id": 50115,
      "author_name": "ash208948",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/08/2014 01:24:47",
      "content": "<p>This is really absurd. In the timeline of this competition, no deadline was mentioned for &quot;First Submission&quot;. How should a participant know that &quot;Deadline for new entrants&quot; should be interpreted as &quot;Deadline for first submission&quot;?</p>",
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    },
    {
      "id": 50116,
      "author_name": "fzvinicius",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/08/2014 01:50:10",
      "content": "<p>Same here... Since the competition was shown as &quot;Active&quot; on my profile and I had already accepted the &quot;rules and stuff &quot; I thought it was ok, but when I tried to submit ~40 mins ago, the system didn't allowed.</p>\n\n<p>Additionally, as you can see in kdd cup 2014 timeline, it's written pretty clear: &quot;July 8, 2014 - First Submission Deadline. Your team must make its first submission by this deadline&quot;. This opened space for misinterpretation here.</p>",
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      "id": 50117,
      "author_name": "wcukierski",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/08/2014 02:40:41",
      "content": "<p>We almost never make exceptions to rules, but I think we will here. The language on the timeline is the old text (from before we made the change to the deadline being based on first submission). I agree that it was&nbsp;not sufficiently clear and you should not be punished for missing it.</p>\n<p>I'll bump it out one day - you must now make your first submission by&nbsp;7/8/2014 11:59 PM UTC. Sorry for the confusion!</p>",
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      "id": 50118,
      "author_name": "ash208948",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/08/2014 03:18:02",
      "content": "<p>Thank you very much William. You made my day.&nbsp;It certainly is a great relief to know that my first participation in Kaggle has not been a total failure :)</p>",
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    },
    {
      "id": 50174,
      "author_name": "lopezgd",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/09/2014 06:04:31",
      "content": "<p>Can you just do away with the &quot;First Submission&quot; deadline in the first place? I can understand cutting off team mergers at some point but what is the purpose of preventing people from submitting something? I had no idea this was the rule, and didn't see that there was an extension until about 5 minutes ago. This is incredibly annoying.&nbsp;</p>",
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    {
      "id": 50175,
      "author_name": "zpahuja",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/09/2014 07:05:42",
      "content": "<p>I second what pezlogd said. I didn't see it and when I did I had to board a flight.</p>",
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      "id": 50178,
      "author_name": "trisco7",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/09/2014 07:43:45",
      "content": "<p>I was not aware of this that first entry needs to be submitted tillv8th July. Its the first time i was participating in Kaggle and i was very enthusiastic. Can you please extend the date?</p>",
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      "id": 50179,
      "author_name": "trisco7",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/09/2014 07:44:05",
      "content": "<p>I was not aware of this that first entry needs to be submitted tillv8th July. Its the first time i was participating in Kaggle and i was very enthusiastic. Can you please extend the date?</p>",
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    {
      "id": 50198,
      "author_name": "kmcd191533",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/09/2014 13:30:32",
      "content": "<p>+1 on the extension extension ...</p>",
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    {
      "id": 50205,
      "author_name": "westsider",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/09/2014 14:41:03",
      "content": "<p>the same situation. I&nbsp;was building model for&nbsp;three weeks and only today have got something interesting((</p>",
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          "id": 451195,
          "author_name": "asdfzxh",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/06/2019 15:00:22",
          "content": "<p>no such thing as got or interesx or not, cepit, any be any interesx nmw</p>",
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      "id": 50208,
      "author_name": "kmcd191533",
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      "post_date": "07/09/2014 15:03:33",
      "content": "<p>Me too.</p>\n<p>I thought by accepting the terms &amp; downloading the data, you were entered into the competition.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Doesn't really make sense that you have to make a submission (in all likelihood with the supplied sample/random/test submission) to enter. What does that prove - that you can upload a file with random data?</p>\n<p>As I precaution, I've now made submissions to all my competitions with random data.</p>",
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      "id": 50228,
      "author_name": "fantasticfox",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/09/2014 21:29:05",
      "content": "<p>Well said @kmcd.</p>\n<p>I also fail to see what logical purpose this &quot;early submission deadline&quot; serves.</p>",
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