{ "id": 343947, "title": "No Medals & No Teaming ? ", "url": "/competitions/ai-village-ctf/discussion/343947", "author_name": "Theo Viel", "post_date": "2022-08-13T07:50:28.121000", "votes": 12, "comment_count": 7, "views": 0, "content": "

Everything is in the title.

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Teaming would've made the competition more interesting for everyone. I personally know they are challenges I have no chances of solving alone.

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Competition medals are a good way to have more people of the Kaggle community compete. Plus it rewards people that performed well, although not well enough to be in the top 5.

", "messages": [ { "id": 1896838, "postDate": "2022-08-13T07:50:28.123Z", "content": "

Everything is in the title.

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Teaming would've made the competition more interesting for everyone. I personally know they are challenges I have no chances of solving alone.

\n

Competition medals are a good way to have more people of the Kaggle community compete. Plus it rewards people that performed well, although not well enough to be in the top 5.

", "rawMarkdown": "Everything is in the title.\n\nTeaming would've made the competition more interesting for everyone. I personally know they are challenges I have no chances of solving alone.\n\nCompetition medals are a good way to have more people of the Kaggle community compete. Plus it rewards people that performed well, although not well enough to be in the top 5.", "votes": 11 }, { "id": 1897331, "postDate": "2022-08-13T16:48:49.087Z", "content": "

Teams:

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Medals:

\n", "rawMarkdown": "Teams:\n- We also debated teams and will consider that for next year based on your feedback. However, this year we will continue not allowing teams. \"Divide and conquer\" is against our main objective of education and we think it would enable teams to reach perfect scores too quickly. Capture-The-Flag competitions are designed to give you \"unsolvable\" problems that motivate you to learn the skills necessary to solve the puzzle. If you feel like you have \"no chance of solving alone\", but are interested in the topic, I encourage you to do some research and keep trying.\n\nMedals:\n- Since this competition can have perfect/maximum scores and is relatively short duration for a Kaggle competition, we are not supporting points/medals. Otherwise they all may end up allocated before someone even finds out about the competition. I understand the same thing could be said for prizes, but it was a compromise between incentives and fairness. In most other competitions, there's enough time and potential signal left in the problem for people to join the competition late and still climb the leaderboard potentially even to the top. We were afraid the format of this competition and the duration may mean that's not the case here.", "votes": 9, "replies": [ { "id": 1897977, "postDate": "2022-08-14T07:07:45.400Z", "content": "

Thanks for the reply @lucasjt, that makes sense !

", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the reply @lucasjt, that makes sense !" } ] }, { "id": 1896844, "postDate": "2022-08-13T07:59:59.870Z", "content": "

I would normally agree with no medals on such a competition but even March Madness gives away medals. So medals here would be nice as well.

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I was planning to create a marketplace topic where everyone share their missing puzzles and find a matching teammate but I realized teaming is not allowed:)

", "rawMarkdown": "I would normally agree with no medals on such a competition but even March Madness gives away medals. So medals here would be nice as well.\n\nI was planning to create a marketplace topic where everyone share their missing puzzles and find a matching teammate but I realized teaming is not allowed:)", "votes": 5, "replies": [ { "id": 1896941, "postDate": "2022-08-13T09:44:06.347Z", "content": "
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I was planning to create a marketplace topic where everyone share their missing puzzles and find a matching teammate but I realized teaming is not allowed:)

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This is still the best strategy to achieve LB 1.0 first and win $5000 if public sharing is allowed.

", "rawMarkdown": "> I was planning to create a marketplace topic where everyone share their missing puzzles and find a matching teammate but I realized teaming is not allowed:)\n\nThis is still the best strategy to achieve LB 1.0 first and win $5000 if public sharing is allowed. " } ] }, { "id": 1896904, "postDate": "2022-08-13T08:59:06.587Z", "content": "

I think no teaming makes sense since the advantage you would get as a team is just too big. You could just split up the tasks among the group and work several times faster.

", "rawMarkdown": "I think no teaming makes sense since the advantage you would get as a team is just too big. You could just split up the tasks among the group and work several times faster.", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 1896936, "postDate": "2022-08-13T09:36:22.850Z", "content": "

I'm curious whether public sharing is allowed or not. Discussion here

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If public sharing is allowed, then two individuals who are each missing a different puzzle can both share the answers publicly and allow both of them to reach LB 1.0 before other individuals.

", "rawMarkdown": "I'm curious whether public sharing is allowed or not. Discussion [here][1]\n\nIf public sharing is allowed, then two individuals who are each missing a different puzzle can both share the answers publicly and allow both of them to reach LB 1.0 before other individuals. \n\n[1]: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/ai-village-ctf/discussion/343964" }, { "id": 1897252, "postDate": "2022-08-13T15:23:12.967Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true } ], "comments": [ { "id": 1897331, "author_name": "Joe Lucas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-13T16:48:49.087000", "content": "

Teams:

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Medals:

\n", "votes": 9, "replies": [ { "id": 1897977, "author_name": "Theo Viel", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-14T07:07:45.400000", "content": "

Thanks for the reply @lucasjt, that makes sense !

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1896844, "author_name": "Ahmet Erdem", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-13T07:59:59.870000", "content": "

I would normally agree with no medals on such a competition but even March Madness gives away medals. So medals here would be nice as well.

\n

I was planning to create a marketplace topic where everyone share their missing puzzles and find a matching teammate but I realized teaming is not allowed:)

", "votes": 5, "replies": [ { "id": 1896941, "author_name": "Chris Deotte", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-13T09:44:06.347000", "content": "
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I was planning to create a marketplace topic where everyone share their missing puzzles and find a matching teammate but I realized teaming is not allowed:)

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This is still the best strategy to achieve LB 1.0 first and win $5000 if public sharing is allowed.

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1896904, "author_name": "Fritz Cremer", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-13T08:59:06.587000", "content": "

I think no teaming makes sense since the advantage you would get as a team is just too big. You could just split up the tasks among the group and work several times faster.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1896936, "author_name": "Chris Deotte", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-13T09:36:22.850000", "content": "

I'm curious whether public sharing is allowed or not. Discussion here

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If public sharing is allowed, then two individuals who are each missing a different puzzle can both share the answers publicly and allow both of them to reach LB 1.0 before other individuals.

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1897252, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-13T15:23:12.967000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "1896838": "Everything is in the title.\n\nTeaming would've made the competition more interesting for everyone. I personally know they are challenges I have no chances of solving alone.\n\nCompetition medals are a good way to have more people of the Kaggle community compete. Plus it rewards people that performed well, although not well enough to be in the top 5.", "1897331": "Teams:\n- We also debated teams and will consider that for next year based on your feedback. However, this year we will continue not allowing teams. \"Divide and conquer\" is against our main objective of education and we think it would enable teams to reach perfect scores too quickly. Capture-The-Flag competitions are designed to give you \"unsolvable\" problems that motivate you to learn the skills necessary to solve the puzzle. If you feel like you have \"no chance of solving alone\", but are interested in the topic, I encourage you to do some research and keep trying.\n\nMedals:\n- Since this competition can have perfect/maximum scores and is relatively short duration for a Kaggle competition, we are not supporting points/medals. Otherwise they all may end up allocated before someone even finds out about the competition. I understand the same thing could be said for prizes, but it was a compromise between incentives and fairness. In most other competitions, there's enough time and potential signal left in the problem for people to join the competition late and still climb the leaderboard potentially even to the top. We were afraid the format of this competition and the duration may mean that's not the case here.", "1896844": "I would normally agree with no medals on such a competition but even March Madness gives away medals. So medals here would be nice as well.\n\nI was planning to create a marketplace topic where everyone share their missing puzzles and find a matching teammate but I realized teaming is not allowed:)", "1896904": "I think no teaming makes sense since the advantage you would get as a team is just too big. You could just split up the tasks among the group and work several times faster.", "1896936": "I'm curious whether public sharing is allowed or not. Discussion [here][1]\n\nIf public sharing is allowed, then two individuals who are each missing a different puzzle can both share the answers publicly and allow both of them to reach LB 1.0 before other individuals. \n\n[1]: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/ai-village-ctf/discussion/343964", "1897252": "" } }