{
  "id": 114893,
  "title": "Not Fair at all !",
  "url": "/competitions/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/114893",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2019-10-29T22:49:11.674529700Z",
  "votes": -20,
  "comment_count": 37,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>This competition is not fair at all...</p>\n\n<p>Temperature in C° in F° ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>GMT time hour random ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>Pressure in ???? HPA, personal feeling ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>Location ? Site  ID, Building ID ? Where, When ??? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>If you need some  Scotland Yard inspector, call Sherlock Holmes... or Conan Doyle, would be better.</p>\n\n<p>This is no more Kaggle competition , just inquiry and supputation.</p>\n\n<p>I am sorry, can't more stand it anymore...</p>\n\n<p>Come on with playgrounds toys, but don't miss people who could help, not fair at all.</p>\n\n<p>I'm really upset tonight, really : I do not want to play any more such a \"guess who/what\" game.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "661043",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 22:49:11",
      "content": "<p>This competition is not fair at all...</p>\n\n<p>Temperature in C° in F° ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>GMT time hour random ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>Pressure in ???? HPA, personal feeling ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>Location ? Site  ID, Building ID ? Where, When ??? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"</p>\n\n<p>If you need some  Scotland Yard inspector, call Sherlock Holmes... or Conan Doyle, would be better.</p>\n\n<p>This is no more Kaggle competition , just inquiry and supputation.</p>\n\n<p>I am sorry, can't more stand it anymore...</p>\n\n<p>Come on with playgrounds toys, but don't miss people who could help, not fair at all.</p>\n\n<p>I'm really upset tonight, really : I do not want to play any more such a \"guess who/what\" game.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This competition is not fair at all...\n\nTemperature in C° in F° ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nGMT time hour random ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nPressure in ???? HPA, personal feeling ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nLocation ? Site  ID, Building ID ? Where, When ??? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nIf you need some  Scotland Yard inspector, call Sherlock Holmes... or Conan Doyle, would be better.\n\nThis is no more Kaggle competition , just inquiry and supputation.\n\nI am sorry, can't more stand it anymore...\n\nCome on with playgrounds toys, but don't miss people who could help, not fair at all.\n\nI'm really upset tonight, really : I do not want to play any more such a \"guess who/what\" game.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661056",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 23:08:44",
      "content": "",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661058",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 23:12:52",
      "content": "<p>Temperatures look like they are all in C.\nThere is indeed an issue with timestamps not being aligned between weather data and meter data. I hope it will get corrected. Mistakes happen.\nI haven't looked at the pressure data, is there something wrong with it?\nI don't think you need to know the location of the buildings to proceed, but people who like to investigate data will surely find some things out. Happens with all competitions. Diving deep into the data is part of the data analyst job.</p>\n\n<p>It's a pretty hard problem. There's 1400+ buildings which all have their own specificities. There's a lot of data cleaning to do. But I wouldn't call it \"unfair\". We're all in the same boat.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Temperatures look like they are all in C.\nThere is indeed an issue with timestamps not being aligned between weather data and meter data. I hope it will get corrected. Mistakes happen.\nI haven't looked at the pressure data, is there something wrong with it?\nI don't think you need to know the location of the buildings to proceed, but people who like to investigate data will surely find some things out. Happens with all competitions. Diving deep into the data is part of the data analyst job.\n\nIt's a pretty hard problem. There's 1400+ buildings which all have their own specificities. There's a lot of data cleaning to do. But I wouldn't call it \"unfair\". We're all in the same boat.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661062",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 23:23:32",
      "content": "<p><em>\"Temperatures look like they are all in C.\"</em></p>\n\n<p>Not at all ... check !</p>\n\n<p>*\"timestamps\" *are all fake !</p>\n\n<p>*\"pressure data, temp_air, dew_temp\" *does'nt mean anything... except if you analise them one by one ... Dewww</p>\n\n<p><em>\"There's a lot of data cleaning to do\"</em> and we are not Scotland Yard neither NY PD... </p>\n\n<p>Just Kagglers not Clusot Inspectors... VaBe ognitanto !</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "*\"Temperatures look like they are all in C.\"*\n\nNot at all ... check !\n\n*\"timestamps\" *are all fake !\n\n*\"pressure data, temp_air, dew_temp\" *does'nt mean anything... except if you analise them one by one ... Dewww\n\n*\"There's a lot of data cleaning to do\"* and we are not Scotland Yard neither NY PD... \n\nJust Kagglers not Clusot Inspectors... VaBe ognitanto !",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661063",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 23:24:05",
      "content": "<p>Why not try to be creative with your modeling? I don't know any of these answers either and I have done ZERO investigation into these data peculiarities. Are you assuming you need to figure these out to win? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Why not try to be creative with your modeling? I don't know any of these answers either and I have done ZERO investigation into these data peculiarities. Are you assuming you need to figure these out to win?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661073",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 23:36:07",
      "content": "<p>Wellcome on board Sir...</p>\n\n<p>Kaggle is meant to be a Machine Learning site, not a cleaning garbage Data or Did I miss something ? </p>\n\n<p>I am really tired to find out where Data is, real Data and not \"guess where Data is hidden ?\"...</p>\n\n<p>Heewwwwhhh ! Tired, really tired.</p>\n\n<p>Where have all the good times gone ?</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiA-rmA08LlAhXRy4UKHbUMB8EQyCkwAHoECAkQBQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEqrwsGrfv7M&amp;usg=AOvVaw3inSBG2_mhh-QVlODDxLSg\">https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiA-rmA08LlAhXRy4UKHbUMB8EQyCkwAHoECAkQBQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEqrwsGrfv7M&amp;usg=AOvVaw3inSBG2_mhh-QVlODDxLSg</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Wellcome on board Sir...\n\nKaggle is meant to be a Machine Learning site, not a cleaning garbage Data or Did I miss something ? \n\nI am really tired to find out where Data is, real Data and not \"guess where Data is hidden ?\"...\n\nHeewwwwhhh ! Tired, really tired.\n\nWhere have all the good times gone ?\n\nhttps://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiA-rmA08LlAhXRy4UKHbUMB8EQyCkwAHoECAkQBQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEqrwsGrfv7M&amp;usg=AOvVaw3inSBG2_mhh-QVlODDxLSg",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661076",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 23:42:13",
      "content": "<p>Looks like celsius to me\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1963347%2F7f6c094bb6b006f5a9cbf112b97cdf87%2Ftemperature%20histogram.png?generation=1572392431545639&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Looks like celsius to me\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1963347%2F7f6c094bb6b006f5a9cbf112b97cdf87%2Ftemperature%20histogram.png?generation=1572392431545639&amp;alt=media)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661081",
      "postDate": "10/29/2019 23:47:32",
      "content": "<p>Are you really sure ?</p>\n\n<p>I did the same ...  hem...</p>\n\n<p>I am not there for the money, but the fun to compete.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Are you really sure ?\n\nI did the same ...  hem...\n\nI am not there for the money, but the fun to compete.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661106",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 00:03:43",
      "content": "<p>Love the Kinks! New tune for me. Thanks for that. Where have all the good times gone? Well, you just passed some on to me. That ought to count for something, I surely appreciate it. Take care mate!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Love the Kinks! New tune for me. Thanks for that. Where have all the good times gone? Well, you just passed some on to me. That ought to count for something, I surely appreciate it. Take care mate!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661111",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 00:09:09",
      "content": "<p>You can see also tiny histograms of the data without even downloading it, on the data page for the competition. Looks about the same as what I posted above for temperature.\nSea level pressure looks like it's centered on 1000ish; has to be in mbar? Again that doesn't look wrong to me.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "You can see also tiny histograms of the data without even downloading it, on the data page for the competition. Looks about the same as what I posted above for temperature.\nSea level pressure looks like it's centered on 1000ish; has to be in mbar? Again that doesn't look wrong to me.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661113",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 00:10:17",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for the downvotes...</p>\n\n<p>You were not there somtimes ago, I may guess.</p>\n\n<p>I just pretend we do not have to guess but JUST predict. It will remain my judgement.</p>\n\n<p>We're not there to guess, jut proove</p>\n\n<p>Okay, I stop there.</p>\n\n<p>PS : I am not the last soldier on this classification, and I will fight till the end. Just a little bit upset even if nobody share my feeling/opinion.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the downvotes...\n\nYou were not there somtimes ago, I may guess.\n\nI just pretend we do not have to guess but JUST predict. It will remain my judgement.\n\nWe're not there to guess, jut proove\n\nOkay, I stop there.\n\nPS : I am not the last soldier on this classification, and I will fight till the end. Just a little bit upset even if nobody share my feeling/opinion.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661119",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 00:16:55",
      "content": "<p>allways wellcome when you talk about Kinks !</p>\n\n<p>But this maybe one one of the best :</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBjbxJ1ZjHY\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBjbxJ1ZjHY</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "allways wellcome when you talk about Kinks !\n\nBut this maybe one one of the best :\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBjbxJ1ZjHY",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661131",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 00:27:15",
      "content": "<p>Sure, it seems loyal and clean ....</p>\n\n<p>But anything about hours(timestamp) and the rest ? </p>\n\n<p>Well it's Saturday Night, I've beena DJ long time ago.... Come on Guys, let's dance an foot your stump ! Yaaahhh</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ySZOPPDD4\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ySZOPPDD4</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Sure, it seems loyal and clean ....\n\nBut anything about hours(timestamp) and the rest ? \n\nWell it's Saturday Night, I've beena DJ long time ago.... Come on Guys, let's dance an foot your stump ! Yaaahhh\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ySZOPPDD4",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661140",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 00:33:42",
      "content": "<p>I allways take care...</p>\n\n<p>To young to die but too old for Rock and Roll...</p>\n\n<p>That's why I am still alive even though ... even though ... I just can't stand it sometimes.</p>\n\n<p>Justfor you : </p>\n\n<p>Ladies and gentlemen : THE KINKS !</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2svmUcsKeg\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2svmUcsKeg</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I allways take care...\n\nTo young to die but too old for Rock and Roll...\n\nThat's why I am still alive even though ... even though ... I just can't stand it sometimes.\n\nJustfor you : \n\nLadies and gentlemen : THE KINKS !\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2svmUcsKeg",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661173",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 01:23:49",
      "content": "<p>Another excellent song! Thanks a lot!\nRock’n’Roll never outgrows you 👍🏽\n<a href=\"https://youtu.be/1_xwnb3cymc\">https://youtu.be/1_xwnb3cymc</a></p>\n\n<p>Nite! :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Another excellent song! Thanks a lot!\nRock’n’Roll never outgrows you 👍🏽\nhttps://youtu.be/1_xwnb3cymc\n\nNite! :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661291",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 05:02:17",
      "content": "<p>If Kaggle provides absolutely clean datasets, Kagglers will never get a job.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If Kaggle provides absolutely clean datasets, Kagglers will never get a job.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661326",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 06:25:06",
      "content": "<p>Isn't that the fun part?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Isn't that the fun part?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661340",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 06:56:13",
      "content": "<p>For sure real world data sets are real crap - this data set not quite as clean as past Kaggle, but it seems to me that the hard part of this competition is making the data make sense.  </p>\n\n<p>Never got the chance while I was working to use ML tools - pretty much had pencil and paper eventually up to JMP version 14.</p>\n\n<p>For those tools over almost 50 years, by the time I got a decent data set I almost did not need the statistics - because I spent 200 hours cleaning up the data for every 1 hour of JMP analysis time and came to a model in my head by the time I was done cleaning.</p>\n\n<p>Vopani has it almost right IMO - if Kaggle provides absolutely clean data sets, Kagglers will get a job but lose it when the boss figures out your probably better at washing dishes than you are at cleaning data.</p>\n\n<p>Cleaning is the real skill set to learn - the ML tools will almost let a monkey run the model within a few years, while the abundance of data will make the cleaning job much harder.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "For sure real world data sets are real crap - this data set not quite as clean as past Kaggle, but it seems to me that the hard part of this competition is making the data make sense.  \n\nNever got the chance while I was working to use ML tools - pretty much had pencil and paper eventually up to JMP version 14.\n\nFor those tools over almost 50 years, by the time I got a decent data set I almost did not need the statistics - because I spent 200 hours cleaning up the data for every 1 hour of JMP analysis time and came to a model in my head by the time I was done cleaning.\n\nVopani has it almost right IMO - if Kaggle provides absolutely clean data sets, Kagglers will get a job but lose it when the boss figures out your probably better at washing dishes than you are at cleaning data.\n\nCleaning is the real skill set to learn - the ML tools will almost let a monkey run the model within a few years, while the abundance of data will make the cleaning job much harder.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661355",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 07:23:08",
      "content": "<p>Never happen before and now again. If it would be so easy why someone will do a competition about it? Also you should try Santander competitions as an example of \"fair\" competitions (<em>irony</em>)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Never happen before and now again. If it would be so easy why someone will do a competition about it? Also you should try Santander competitions as an example of \"fair\" competitions (*irony*)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "661411",
      "postDate": "10/30/2019 09:03:59",
      "content": "<p>In other words, this competition is too realistic!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In other words, this competition is too realistic!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662087",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 04:23:04",
      "content": "<p>import sklearn\nfit \npredict</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "import sklearn\nfit \npredict",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662116",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 05:20:05",
      "content": "<p>Absolutely right!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Absolutely right!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662432",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 14:51:07",
      "content": "<p>Unless you're pulling the data from 7 legacy systems owned by different organizations who don't want anyone else using the data, then, no, it's not \"realistic\". 😂 </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Unless you're pulling the data from 7 legacy systems owned by different organizations who don't want anyone else using the data, then, no, it's not \"realistic\". 😂",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662637",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 19:37:44",
      "content": "<p>Thanks a lot for the eleven (at least) downvoters.</p>\n\n<p>Just a a feeling that we will not find a clew among all this messy data.</p>\n\n<p>Like every body here I just struggle to get a score.</p>\n\n<p>Did not want to offense any body and all  those downvotes are kinda misunderstanding , that's what I feel, and it aches.</p>\n\n<p>I beg your pardon, if it can solve something.</p>\n\n<p>Never being injurious here, just kind of upset...</p>\n\n<p>Kaggle is allways a  kind of challenge and sometimes one can loose its one patience.</p>\n\n<p>Am I the only one ?</p>\n\n<p>I beg your pardon... Sorry, so sorry for that .</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks a lot for the eleven (at least) downvoters.\n\nJust a a feeling that we will not find a clew among all this messy data.\n\nLike every body here I just struggle to get a score.\n\nDid not want to offense any body and all  those downvotes are kinda misunderstanding , that's what I feel, and it aches.\n\nI beg your pardon, if it can solve something.\n\nNever being injurious here, just kind of upset...\n\nKaggle is allways a  kind of challenge and sometimes one can loose its one patience.\n\nAm I the only one ?\n\nI beg your pardon... Sorry, so sorry for that .",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662641",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 19:42:32",
      "content": "<p>What do you mean ?</p>\n\n<p>Is SciKitLearn a new recipe from Mc Donalds ?</p>\n\n<p>I don't know (SciKitLearn neither Keras, neither LGB, neither XGB... kinda newbie I guess)</p>\n\n<p>Are you kidding ? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "What do you mean ?\n\nIs SciKitLearn a new recipe from Mc Donalds ?\n\nI don't know (SciKitLearn neither Keras, neither LGB, neither XGB... kinda newbie I guess)\n\nAre you kidding ?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662642",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 19:48:57",
      "content": "<p>I am sorry I can't catch you...</p>\n\n<p>Does Kaggle is a simple \"sending files\" and try to \"pull it all over\" ?</p>\n\n<p>I just think that we are not there to clean up data. Just my opinion not a judgement, again and again, Mr Inversion.</p>\n\n<p>I remember last Sberbank and Mercedes competitions...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am sorry I can't catch you...\n\nDoes Kaggle is a simple \"sending files\" and try to \"pull it all over\" ?\n\nI just think that we are not there to clean up data. Just my opinion not a judgement, again and again, Mr Inversion.\n\nI remember last Sberbank and Mercedes competitions...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662645",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 19:51:16",
      "content": "<p>I don't think so, with all my respect...  Ask  Fred about my feelings.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I don't think so, with all my respect...  Ask  Fred about my feelings.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662651",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 19:58:29",
      "content": "<p>Did you ever get a Job with Kaggle ? Phew ! (Homer Simpson saying accordind to WikiPedia)</p>\n\n<p>I agree that beeing among the best Kaggler can help, but that's not enough... I'm afraid. At least in France.</p>\n\n<p>Do not want to critisize anything here, NEVER.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Did you ever get a Job with Kaggle ? Phew ! (Homer Simpson saying accordind to WikiPedia)\n\nI agree that beeing among the best Kaggler can help, but that's not enough... I'm afraid. At least in France.\n\nDo not want to critisize anything here, NEVER.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662652",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 20:02:24",
      "content": "<p>Thanks a lot for no more downvotes... It would be fair.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks a lot for no more downvotes... It would be fair.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "663878",
      "postDate": "11/02/2019 19:43:46",
      "content": "<p>Please ! stop downvoting ... </p>\n\n<p>It was just some kind of \"exhauted\" guy who wrote... really tired guy and a little bit upset. No aggressivity !</p>\n\n<p>Thanks a lot for your undestanding all of you, thanks again.</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1B55wEB030\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1B55wEB030</a></p>\n\n<p>Bob Marley will remain some kind of Hero for the future...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Please ! stop downvoting ... \n\nIt was just some kind of \"exhauted\" guy who wrote... really tired guy and a little bit upset. No aggressivity !\n\nThanks a lot for your undestanding all of you, thanks again.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1B55wEB030\n\n\nBob Marley will remain some kind of Hero for the future...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "663905",
      "postDate": "11/02/2019 20:52:06",
      "content": "<p>Oh ! Like a hurricane here 💪 </p>\n\n<p>Hey guys was there something insulting from my side ? </p>\n\n<p>o tempora o mores !</p>\n\n<p>Wonderful Life – The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History, by Steven Jay Gould and try to understand that we are all descendants from Pikaia with no stree, no aggressivity, just succeed to survive.</p>\n\n<p>I don't wanna fight, I just wanna get a good score in theis competition ...</p>\n\n<p>I know : \"only the fittest of the fittest will survive\", Darwin... But I down want to kill just get a score and no downvotes by 100's</p>\n\n<p>A good reading againt aggressivity : \"<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Life_(book)\">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Life_(book)</a>\"</p>\n\n<p>Jay Gould is one of my master, among some others... But Steven Jay Gould may be the paleontologist one must read, no kidding. </p>\n\n<p>After tha, you can keep your gun at his place, not in your hand. </p>\n\n<p>9 downvotes ? Are you really so upset guys ???</p>\n\n<p>This is what I listen to when I am upset guys : </p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Oh ! Like a hurricane here 💪 \n\nHey guys was there something insulting from my side ? \n\no tempora o mores !\n\nWonderful Life – The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History, by Steven Jay Gould and try to understand that we are all descendants from Pikaia with no stree, no aggressivity, just succeed to survive.\n\nI don't wanna fight, I just wanna get a good score in theis competition ...\n\nI know : \"only the fittest of the fittest will survive\", Darwin... But I down want to kill just get a score and no downvotes by 100's\n\nA good reading againt aggressivity : \"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Life_(book)\"\n\nJay Gould is one of my master, among some others... But Steven Jay Gould may be the paleontologist one must read, no kidding. \n\nAfter tha, you can keep your gun at his place, not in your hand. \n\n9 downvotes ? Are you really so upset guys ???\n\nThis is what I listen to when I am upset guys : \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "663907",
      "postDate": "11/02/2019 20:57:36",
      "content": "<p>Did you undesrtand ?</p>\n\n<p><em>\"Thanks a lot for no more downvotes… It would be fair.\"</em></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Did you undesrtand ?\n\n*\"Thanks a lot for no more downvotes… It would be fair.\"*",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "665252",
      "postDate": "11/04/2019 19:50:03",
      "content": "<p>Gentle Kaggle guys, t would be fair to stop downvoting : are we back to Dark Ages ? </p>\n\n<p>Wille you ligth a pyre or will you burn me to death ?</p>\n\n<p>Am I a Keggle heretic ? </p>\n\n<p>RELAX please ! Not the 3rd world war... just a comment !</p>\n\n<p>Like Anglo-Saxons use to say : if you don't like it don't reply... nothing positive to say, don,t say nothing.</p>\n\n<p>(-)11 downvotes, never seen that before.\nI was just saying \"This competition is not fair at all…\" and blah blah blah .\nWill I have to do my \"way of the cross\" and receive \"whiplash\" till the Golgotha mountain ? </p>\n\n<p>Think about it :  <strong>11</strong> DownVotes ! Heww...</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0vGezzHqo\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0vGezzHqo</a></p>\n\n<p>I would bet on 20 downvotes by tomorrow ;-)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Gentle Kaggle guys, t would be fair to stop downvoting : are we back to Dark Ages ? \n\nWille you ligth a pyre or will you burn me to death ?\n\nAm I a Keggle heretic ? \n\nRELAX please ! Not the 3rd world war... just a comment !\n\nLike Anglo-Saxons use to say : if you don't like it don't reply... nothing positive to say, don,t say nothing.\n\n(-)11 downvotes, never seen that before.\nI was just saying \"This competition is not fair at all…\" and blah blah blah .\nWill I have to do my \"way of the cross\" and receive \"whiplash\" till the Golgotha mountain ? \n\nThink about it :  **11** DownVotes ! Heww...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0vGezzHqo\n\nI would bet on 20 downvotes by tomorrow ;-)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "665256",
      "postDate": "11/04/2019 19:54:23",
      "content": "<p>Why are you bumping this thread every day?  There was 11 downvotes 4 days ago, there's still 11 downvotes today; why not just let it go?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Why are you bumping this thread every day?  There was 11 downvotes 4 days ago, there's still 11 downvotes today; why not just let it go?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "665353",
      "postDate": "11/04/2019 22:56:42",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/sdoria\">@sdoria</a> </p>\n\n<p>Because I don’t accept and never will.</p>\n\n<p>We’re all here to compete and sometimes express our frustration not against someone but just about our incapacity to find our way and shout at our misunderstanding, but never attack anybody.</p>\n\n<p>I come from Brittany, France, a Celtic guy and We allways needed to find the answers, and never accepted insults.</p>\n\n<p>And 11 downvotes is kind of insult, when I express what a lot of all of us said in another way...</p>\n\n<p>I would say it’s just some stress from all of us, but not acceptable.</p>\n\n<p>Just read again what I wrote, no insulting people, no rude sentences, nothing evil. So why all those negative votes ?</p>\n\n<p>Let it go ? When I understand why...</p>\n\n<p>Thank you for your comment anyway ! Muchas Gracias ! Grazzie tante volte ! Trugarez !</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "sdoria \n\nBecause I don’t accept and never will.\n\nWe’re all here to compete and sometimes express our frustration not against someone but just about our incapacity to find our way and shout at our misunderstanding, but never attack anybody.\n\nI come from Brittany, France, a Celtic guy and We allways needed to find the answers, and never accepted insults.\n\nAnd 11 downvotes is kind of insult, when I express what a lot of all of us said in another way...\n\nI would say it’s just some stress from all of us, but not acceptable.\n\nJust read again what I wrote, no insulting people, no rude sentences, nothing evil. So why all those negative votes ?\n\nLet it go ? When I understand why...\n\nThank you for your comment anyway ! Muchas Gracias ! Grazzie tante volte ! Trugarez !",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "665819",
      "postDate": "11/05/2019 12:37:19",
      "content": "<p>Did you really delete the old post about 'Not fair at all' cause of downvotes and created a new one, copy-pasting the same stuff??? Man thats vain. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Did you really delete the old post about 'Not fair at all' cause of downvotes and created a new one, copy-pasting the same stuff??? Man thats vain.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "665988",
      "postDate": "11/05/2019 16:01:15",
      "content": "<p>Not at all ! I did not delete anything...</p>\n\n<p>Still the same post since 7 days ago.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Not at all ! I did not delete anything...\n\nStill the same post since 7 days ago.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "666521",
      "postDate": "11/06/2019 07:07:24",
      "content": "<p>Then how come I cant find my previoius comment on fairness....Stranger Things...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Then how come I cant find my previoius comment on fairness....Stranger Things...",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 661056,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/29/2019 23:08:44",
      "content": "",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 661058,
      "author_name": "sdoria",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/29/2019 23:12:52",
      "content": "<p>Temperatures look like they are all in C.\nThere is indeed an issue with timestamps not being aligned between weather data and meter data. I hope it will get corrected. Mistakes happen.\nI haven't looked at the pressure data, is there something wrong with it?\nI don't think you need to know the location of the buildings to proceed, but people who like to investigate data will surely find some things out. Happens with all competitions. Diving deep into the data is part of the data analyst job.</p>\n\n<p>It's a pretty hard problem. There's 1400+ buildings which all have their own specificities. There's a lot of data cleaning to do. But I wouldn't call it \"unfair\". We're all in the same boat.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 661062,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/29/2019 23:23:32",
          "content": "<p><em>\"Temperatures look like they are all in C.\"</em></p>\n\n<p>Not at all ... check !</p>\n\n<p>*\"timestamps\" *are all fake !</p>\n\n<p>*\"pressure data, temp_air, dew_temp\" *does'nt mean anything... except if you analise them one by one ... Dewww</p>\n\n<p><em>\"There's a lot of data cleaning to do\"</em> and we are not Scotland Yard neither NY PD... </p>\n\n<p>Just Kagglers not Clusot Inspectors... VaBe ognitanto !</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661076,
          "author_name": "sdoria",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/29/2019 23:42:13",
          "content": "<p>Looks like celsius to me\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1963347%2F7f6c094bb6b006f5a9cbf112b97cdf87%2Ftemperature%20histogram.png?generation=1572392431545639&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661081,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/29/2019 23:47:32",
          "content": "<p>Are you really sure ?</p>\n\n<p>I did the same ...  hem...</p>\n\n<p>I am not there for the money, but the fun to compete.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661111,
          "author_name": "sdoria",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/30/2019 00:09:09",
          "content": "<p>You can see also tiny histograms of the data without even downloading it, on the data page for the competition. Looks about the same as what I posted above for temperature.\nSea level pressure looks like it's centered on 1000ish; has to be in mbar? Again that doesn't look wrong to me.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661131,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/30/2019 00:27:15",
          "content": "<p>Sure, it seems loyal and clean ....</p>\n\n<p>But anything about hours(timestamp) and the rest ? </p>\n\n<p>Well it's Saturday Night, I've beena DJ long time ago.... Come on Guys, let's dance an foot your stump ! Yaaahhh</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ySZOPPDD4\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ySZOPPDD4</a></p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 661063,
      "author_name": "abednadir",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/29/2019 23:24:05",
      "content": "<p>Why not try to be creative with your modeling? I don't know any of these answers either and I have done ZERO investigation into these data peculiarities. Are you assuming you need to figure these out to win? </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 661073,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/29/2019 23:36:07",
          "content": "<p>Wellcome on board Sir...</p>\n\n<p>Kaggle is meant to be a Machine Learning site, not a cleaning garbage Data or Did I miss something ? </p>\n\n<p>I am really tired to find out where Data is, real Data and not \"guess where Data is hidden ?\"...</p>\n\n<p>Heewwwwhhh ! Tired, really tired.</p>\n\n<p>Where have all the good times gone ?</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiA-rmA08LlAhXRy4UKHbUMB8EQyCkwAHoECAkQBQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEqrwsGrfv7M&amp;usg=AOvVaw3inSBG2_mhh-QVlODDxLSg\">https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiA-rmA08LlAhXRy4UKHbUMB8EQyCkwAHoECAkQBQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEqrwsGrfv7M&amp;usg=AOvVaw3inSBG2_mhh-QVlODDxLSg</a></p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661106,
          "author_name": "diginfo",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/30/2019 00:03:43",
          "content": "<p>Love the Kinks! New tune for me. Thanks for that. Where have all the good times gone? Well, you just passed some on to me. That ought to count for something, I surely appreciate it. Take care mate!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661119,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/30/2019 00:16:55",
          "content": "<p>allways wellcome when you talk about Kinks !</p>\n\n<p>But this maybe one one of the best :</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBjbxJ1ZjHY\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBjbxJ1ZjHY</a></p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661140,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/30/2019 00:33:42",
          "content": "<p>I allways take care...</p>\n\n<p>To young to die but too old for Rock and Roll...</p>\n\n<p>That's why I am still alive even though ... even though ... I just can't stand it sometimes.</p>\n\n<p>Justfor you : </p>\n\n<p>Ladies and gentlemen : THE KINKS !</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2svmUcsKeg\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2svmUcsKeg</a></p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 661173,
          "author_name": "diginfo",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/30/2019 01:23:49",
          "content": "<p>Another excellent song! Thanks a lot!\nRock’n’Roll never outgrows you 👍🏽\n<a href=\"https://youtu.be/1_xwnb3cymc\">https://youtu.be/1_xwnb3cymc</a></p>\n\n<p>Nite! :)</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 661113,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/30/2019 00:10:17",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for the downvotes...</p>\n\n<p>You were not there somtimes ago, I may guess.</p>\n\n<p>I just pretend we do not have to guess but JUST predict. It will remain my judgement.</p>\n\n<p>We're not there to guess, jut proove</p>\n\n<p>Okay, I stop there.</p>\n\n<p>PS : I am not the last soldier on this classification, and I will fight till the end. Just a little bit upset even if nobody share my feeling/opinion.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 661291,
      "author_name": "rohanrao",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/30/2019 05:02:17",
      "content": "<p>If Kaggle provides absolutely clean datasets, Kagglers will never get a job.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 662116,
          "author_name": "kevinhucmu",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 05:20:05",
          "content": "<p>Absolutely right!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662651,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 19:58:29",
          "content": "<p>Did you ever get a Job with Kaggle ? Phew ! (Homer Simpson saying accordind to WikiPedia)</p>\n\n<p>I agree that beeing among the best Kaggler can help, but that's not enough... I'm afraid. At least in France.</p>\n\n<p>Do not want to critisize anything here, NEVER.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 661326,
      "author_name": "gunesevitan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/30/2019 06:25:06",
      "content": "<p>Isn't that the fun part?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 662645,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 19:51:16",
          "content": "<p>I don't think so, with all my respect...  Ask  Fred about my feelings.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 661340,
      "author_name": "pcjimmmy",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/30/2019 06:56:13",
      "content": "<p>For sure real world data sets are real crap - this data set not quite as clean as past Kaggle, but it seems to me that the hard part of this competition is making the data make sense.  </p>\n\n<p>Never got the chance while I was working to use ML tools - pretty much had pencil and paper eventually up to JMP version 14.</p>\n\n<p>For those tools over almost 50 years, by the time I got a decent data set I almost did not need the statistics - because I spent 200 hours cleaning up the data for every 1 hour of JMP analysis time and came to a model in my head by the time I was done cleaning.</p>\n\n<p>Vopani has it almost right IMO - if Kaggle provides absolutely clean data sets, Kagglers will get a job but lose it when the boss figures out your probably better at washing dishes than you are at cleaning data.</p>\n\n<p>Cleaning is the real skill set to learn - the ML tools will almost let a monkey run the model within a few years, while the abundance of data will make the cleaning job much harder.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 661355,
      "author_name": "wispzero",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/30/2019 07:23:08",
      "content": "<p>Never happen before and now again. If it would be so easy why someone will do a competition about it? Also you should try Santander competitions as an example of \"fair\" competitions (<em>irony</em>)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 661411,
      "author_name": "bigironsphere",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/30/2019 09:03:59",
      "content": "<p>In other words, this competition is too realistic!</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 662432,
          "author_name": "inversion",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 14:51:07",
          "content": "<p>Unless you're pulling the data from 7 legacy systems owned by different organizations who don't want anyone else using the data, then, no, it's not \"realistic\". 😂 </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662642,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 19:48:57",
          "content": "<p>I am sorry I can't catch you...</p>\n\n<p>Does Kaggle is a simple \"sending files\" and try to \"pull it all over\" ?</p>\n\n<p>I just think that we are not there to clean up data. Just my opinion not a judgement, again and again, Mr Inversion.</p>\n\n<p>I remember last Sberbank and Mercedes competitions...</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 662087,
      "author_name": "baomengjiao",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2019 04:23:04",
      "content": "<p>import sklearn\nfit \npredict</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 662641,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 19:42:32",
          "content": "<p>What do you mean ?</p>\n\n<p>Is SciKitLearn a new recipe from Mc Donalds ?</p>\n\n<p>I don't know (SciKitLearn neither Keras, neither LGB, neither XGB... kinda newbie I guess)</p>\n\n<p>Are you kidding ? </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 662637,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2019 19:37:44",
      "content": "<p>Thanks a lot for the eleven (at least) downvoters.</p>\n\n<p>Just a a feeling that we will not find a clew among all this messy data.</p>\n\n<p>Like every body here I just struggle to get a score.</p>\n\n<p>Did not want to offense any body and all  those downvotes are kinda misunderstanding , that's what I feel, and it aches.</p>\n\n<p>I beg your pardon, if it can solve something.</p>\n\n<p>Never being injurious here, just kind of upset...</p>\n\n<p>Kaggle is allways a  kind of challenge and sometimes one can loose its one patience.</p>\n\n<p>Am I the only one ?</p>\n\n<p>I beg your pardon... Sorry, so sorry for that .</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 662652,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2019 20:02:24",
      "content": "<p>Thanks a lot for no more downvotes... It would be fair.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 663907,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/02/2019 20:57:36",
          "content": "<p>Did you undesrtand ?</p>\n\n<p><em>\"Thanks a lot for no more downvotes… It would be fair.\"</em></p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 663878,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/02/2019 19:43:46",
      "content": "<p>Please ! stop downvoting ... </p>\n\n<p>It was just some kind of \"exhauted\" guy who wrote... really tired guy and a little bit upset. No aggressivity !</p>\n\n<p>Thanks a lot for your undestanding all of you, thanks again.</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1B55wEB030\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1B55wEB030</a></p>\n\n<p>Bob Marley will remain some kind of Hero for the future...</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 663905,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/02/2019 20:52:06",
      "content": "<p>Oh ! Like a hurricane here 💪 </p>\n\n<p>Hey guys was there something insulting from my side ? </p>\n\n<p>o tempora o mores !</p>\n\n<p>Wonderful Life – The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History, by Steven Jay Gould and try to understand that we are all descendants from Pikaia with no stree, no aggressivity, just succeed to survive.</p>\n\n<p>I don't wanna fight, I just wanna get a good score in theis competition ...</p>\n\n<p>I know : \"only the fittest of the fittest will survive\", Darwin... But I down want to kill just get a score and no downvotes by 100's</p>\n\n<p>A good reading againt aggressivity : \"<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Life_(book)\">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Life_(book)</a>\"</p>\n\n<p>Jay Gould is one of my master, among some others... But Steven Jay Gould may be the paleontologist one must read, no kidding. </p>\n\n<p>After tha, you can keep your gun at his place, not in your hand. </p>\n\n<p>9 downvotes ? Are you really so upset guys ???</p>\n\n<p>This is what I listen to when I am upset guys : </p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0</a></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 665252,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/04/2019 19:50:03",
      "content": "<p>Gentle Kaggle guys, t would be fair to stop downvoting : are we back to Dark Ages ? </p>\n\n<p>Wille you ligth a pyre or will you burn me to death ?</p>\n\n<p>Am I a Keggle heretic ? </p>\n\n<p>RELAX please ! Not the 3rd world war... just a comment !</p>\n\n<p>Like Anglo-Saxons use to say : if you don't like it don't reply... nothing positive to say, don,t say nothing.</p>\n\n<p>(-)11 downvotes, never seen that before.\nI was just saying \"This competition is not fair at all…\" and blah blah blah .\nWill I have to do my \"way of the cross\" and receive \"whiplash\" till the Golgotha mountain ? </p>\n\n<p>Think about it :  <strong>11</strong> DownVotes ! Heww...</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0vGezzHqo\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0vGezzHqo</a></p>\n\n<p>I would bet on 20 downvotes by tomorrow ;-)</p>",
      "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 665256,
          "author_name": "sdoria",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/04/2019 19:54:23",
          "content": "<p>Why are you bumping this thread every day?  There was 11 downvotes 4 days ago, there's still 11 downvotes today; why not just let it go?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 665353,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/04/2019 22:56:42",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/sdoria\">@sdoria</a> </p>\n\n<p>Because I don’t accept and never will.</p>\n\n<p>We’re all here to compete and sometimes express our frustration not against someone but just about our incapacity to find our way and shout at our misunderstanding, but never attack anybody.</p>\n\n<p>I come from Brittany, France, a Celtic guy and We allways needed to find the answers, and never accepted insults.</p>\n\n<p>And 11 downvotes is kind of insult, when I express what a lot of all of us said in another way...</p>\n\n<p>I would say it’s just some stress from all of us, but not acceptable.</p>\n\n<p>Just read again what I wrote, no insulting people, no rude sentences, nothing evil. So why all those negative votes ?</p>\n\n<p>Let it go ? When I understand why...</p>\n\n<p>Thank you for your comment anyway ! Muchas Gracias ! Grazzie tante volte ! Trugarez !</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
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    {
      "id": 665819,
      "author_name": "georsara1",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/05/2019 12:37:19",
      "content": "<p>Did you really delete the old post about 'Not fair at all' cause of downvotes and created a new one, copy-pasting the same stuff??? Man thats vain. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 665988,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/05/2019 16:01:15",
          "content": "<p>Not at all ! I did not delete anything...</p>\n\n<p>Still the same post since 7 days ago.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 666521,
          "author_name": "georsara1",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/06/2019 07:07:24",
          "content": "<p>Then how come I cant find my previoius comment on fairness....Stranger Things...</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
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    "661043": "This competition is not fair at all...\n\nTemperature in C° in F° ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nGMT time hour random ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nPressure in ???? HPA, personal feeling ? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nLocation ? Site  ID, Building ID ? Where, When ??? or both  mixed ? \"find it if you can \"\n\nIf you need some  Scotland Yard inspector, call Sherlock Holmes... or Conan Doyle, would be better.\n\nThis is no more Kaggle competition , just inquiry and supputation.\n\nI am sorry, can't more stand it anymore...\n\nCome on with playgrounds toys, but don't miss people who could help, not fair at all.\n\nI'm really upset tonight, really : I do not want to play any more such a \"guess who/what\" game.",
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    "661058": "Temperatures look like they are all in C.\nThere is indeed an issue with timestamps not being aligned between weather data and meter data. I hope it will get corrected. Mistakes happen.\nI haven't looked at the pressure data, is there something wrong with it?\nI don't think you need to know the location of the buildings to proceed, but people who like to investigate data will surely find some things out. Happens with all competitions. Diving deep into the data is part of the data analyst job.\n\nIt's a pretty hard problem. There's 1400+ buildings which all have their own specificities. There's a lot of data cleaning to do. But I wouldn't call it \"unfair\". We're all in the same boat.",
    "661062": "*\"Temperatures look like they are all in C.\"*\n\nNot at all ... check !\n\n*\"timestamps\" *are all fake !\n\n*\"pressure data, temp_air, dew_temp\" *does'nt mean anything... except if you analise them one by one ... Dewww\n\n*\"There's a lot of data cleaning to do\"* and we are not Scotland Yard neither NY PD... \n\nJust Kagglers not Clusot Inspectors... VaBe ognitanto !",
    "661063": "Why not try to be creative with your modeling? I don't know any of these answers either and I have done ZERO investigation into these data peculiarities. Are you assuming you need to figure these out to win?",
    "661073": "Wellcome on board Sir...\n\nKaggle is meant to be a Machine Learning site, not a cleaning garbage Data or Did I miss something ? \n\nI am really tired to find out where Data is, real Data and not \"guess where Data is hidden ?\"...\n\nHeewwwwhhh ! Tired, really tired.\n\nWhere have all the good times gone ?\n\nhttps://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiA-rmA08LlAhXRy4UKHbUMB8EQyCkwAHoECAkQBQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DEqrwsGrfv7M&amp;usg=AOvVaw3inSBG2_mhh-QVlODDxLSg",
    "661076": "Looks like celsius to me\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1963347%2F7f6c094bb6b006f5a9cbf112b97cdf87%2Ftemperature%20histogram.png?generation=1572392431545639&amp;alt=media)",
    "661081": "Are you really sure ?\n\nI did the same ...  hem...\n\nI am not there for the money, but the fun to compete.",
    "661106": "Love the Kinks! New tune for me. Thanks for that. Where have all the good times gone? Well, you just passed some on to me. That ought to count for something, I surely appreciate it. Take care mate!",
    "661111": "You can see also tiny histograms of the data without even downloading it, on the data page for the competition. Looks about the same as what I posted above for temperature.\nSea level pressure looks like it's centered on 1000ish; has to be in mbar? Again that doesn't look wrong to me.",
    "661113": "Thanks for the downvotes...\n\nYou were not there somtimes ago, I may guess.\n\nI just pretend we do not have to guess but JUST predict. It will remain my judgement.\n\nWe're not there to guess, jut proove\n\nOkay, I stop there.\n\nPS : I am not the last soldier on this classification, and I will fight till the end. Just a little bit upset even if nobody share my feeling/opinion.",
    "661119": "allways wellcome when you talk about Kinks !\n\nBut this maybe one one of the best :\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBjbxJ1ZjHY",
    "661131": "Sure, it seems loyal and clean ....\n\nBut anything about hours(timestamp) and the rest ? \n\nWell it's Saturday Night, I've beena DJ long time ago.... Come on Guys, let's dance an foot your stump ! Yaaahhh\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ySZOPPDD4",
    "661140": "I allways take care...\n\nTo young to die but too old for Rock and Roll...\n\nThat's why I am still alive even though ... even though ... I just can't stand it sometimes.\n\nJustfor you : \n\nLadies and gentlemen : THE KINKS !\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2svmUcsKeg",
    "661173": "Another excellent song! Thanks a lot!\nRock’n’Roll never outgrows you 👍🏽\nhttps://youtu.be/1_xwnb3cymc\n\nNite! :)",
    "661291": "If Kaggle provides absolutely clean datasets, Kagglers will never get a job.",
    "661326": "Isn't that the fun part?",
    "661340": "For sure real world data sets are real crap - this data set not quite as clean as past Kaggle, but it seems to me that the hard part of this competition is making the data make sense.  \n\nNever got the chance while I was working to use ML tools - pretty much had pencil and paper eventually up to JMP version 14.\n\nFor those tools over almost 50 years, by the time I got a decent data set I almost did not need the statistics - because I spent 200 hours cleaning up the data for every 1 hour of JMP analysis time and came to a model in my head by the time I was done cleaning.\n\nVopani has it almost right IMO - if Kaggle provides absolutely clean data sets, Kagglers will get a job but lose it when the boss figures out your probably better at washing dishes than you are at cleaning data.\n\nCleaning is the real skill set to learn - the ML tools will almost let a monkey run the model within a few years, while the abundance of data will make the cleaning job much harder.",
    "661355": "Never happen before and now again. If it would be so easy why someone will do a competition about it? Also you should try Santander competitions as an example of \"fair\" competitions (*irony*)",
    "661411": "In other words, this competition is too realistic!",
    "662087": "import sklearn\nfit \npredict",
    "662116": "Absolutely right!",
    "662432": "Unless you're pulling the data from 7 legacy systems owned by different organizations who don't want anyone else using the data, then, no, it's not \"realistic\". 😂",
    "662637": "Thanks a lot for the eleven (at least) downvoters.\n\nJust a a feeling that we will not find a clew among all this messy data.\n\nLike every body here I just struggle to get a score.\n\nDid not want to offense any body and all  those downvotes are kinda misunderstanding , that's what I feel, and it aches.\n\nI beg your pardon, if it can solve something.\n\nNever being injurious here, just kind of upset...\n\nKaggle is allways a  kind of challenge and sometimes one can loose its one patience.\n\nAm I the only one ?\n\nI beg your pardon... Sorry, so sorry for that .",
    "662641": "What do you mean ?\n\nIs SciKitLearn a new recipe from Mc Donalds ?\n\nI don't know (SciKitLearn neither Keras, neither LGB, neither XGB... kinda newbie I guess)\n\nAre you kidding ?",
    "662642": "I am sorry I can't catch you...\n\nDoes Kaggle is a simple \"sending files\" and try to \"pull it all over\" ?\n\nI just think that we are not there to clean up data. Just my opinion not a judgement, again and again, Mr Inversion.\n\nI remember last Sberbank and Mercedes competitions...",
    "662645": "I don't think so, with all my respect...  Ask  Fred about my feelings.",
    "662651": "Did you ever get a Job with Kaggle ? Phew ! (Homer Simpson saying accordind to WikiPedia)\n\nI agree that beeing among the best Kaggler can help, but that's not enough... I'm afraid. At least in France.\n\nDo not want to critisize anything here, NEVER.",
    "662652": "Thanks a lot for no more downvotes... It would be fair.",
    "663878": "Please ! stop downvoting ... \n\nIt was just some kind of \"exhauted\" guy who wrote... really tired guy and a little bit upset. No aggressivity !\n\nThanks a lot for your undestanding all of you, thanks again.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1B55wEB030\n\n\nBob Marley will remain some kind of Hero for the future...",
    "663905": "Oh ! Like a hurricane here 💪 \n\nHey guys was there something insulting from my side ? \n\no tempora o mores !\n\nWonderful Life – The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History, by Steven Jay Gould and try to understand that we are all descendants from Pikaia with no stree, no aggressivity, just succeed to survive.\n\nI don't wanna fight, I just wanna get a good score in theis competition ...\n\nI know : \"only the fittest of the fittest will survive\", Darwin... But I down want to kill just get a score and no downvotes by 100's\n\nA good reading againt aggressivity : \"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Life_(book)\"\n\nJay Gould is one of my master, among some others... But Steven Jay Gould may be the paleontologist one must read, no kidding. \n\nAfter tha, you can keep your gun at his place, not in your hand. \n\n9 downvotes ? Are you really so upset guys ???\n\nThis is what I listen to when I am upset guys : \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0",
    "663907": "Did you undesrtand ?\n\n*\"Thanks a lot for no more downvotes… It would be fair.\"*",
    "665252": "Gentle Kaggle guys, t would be fair to stop downvoting : are we back to Dark Ages ? \n\nWille you ligth a pyre or will you burn me to death ?\n\nAm I a Keggle heretic ? \n\nRELAX please ! Not the 3rd world war... just a comment !\n\nLike Anglo-Saxons use to say : if you don't like it don't reply... nothing positive to say, don,t say nothing.\n\n(-)11 downvotes, never seen that before.\nI was just saying \"This competition is not fair at all…\" and blah blah blah .\nWill I have to do my \"way of the cross\" and receive \"whiplash\" till the Golgotha mountain ? \n\nThink about it :  **11** DownVotes ! Heww...\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw0vGezzHqo\n\nI would bet on 20 downvotes by tomorrow ;-)",
    "665256": "Why are you bumping this thread every day?  There was 11 downvotes 4 days ago, there's still 11 downvotes today; why not just let it go?",
    "665353": "sdoria \n\nBecause I don’t accept and never will.\n\nWe’re all here to compete and sometimes express our frustration not against someone but just about our incapacity to find our way and shout at our misunderstanding, but never attack anybody.\n\nI come from Brittany, France, a Celtic guy and We allways needed to find the answers, and never accepted insults.\n\nAnd 11 downvotes is kind of insult, when I express what a lot of all of us said in another way...\n\nI would say it’s just some stress from all of us, but not acceptable.\n\nJust read again what I wrote, no insulting people, no rude sentences, nothing evil. So why all those negative votes ?\n\nLet it go ? When I understand why...\n\nThank you for your comment anyway ! Muchas Gracias ! Grazzie tante volte ! Trugarez !",
    "665819": "Did you really delete the old post about 'Not fair at all' cause of downvotes and created a new one, copy-pasting the same stuff??? Man thats vain.",
    "665988": "Not at all ! I did not delete anything...\n\nStill the same post since 7 days ago.",
    "666521": "Then how come I cant find my previoius comment on fairness....Stranger Things..."
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