{
  "id": 115113,
  "title": "Only two submissions per day is not sufficient",
  "url": "/competitions/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115113",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2019-10-31T12:14:59.798158Z",
  "votes": 5,
  "comment_count": 14,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>IMHO only 2 submissions per day is not sufficient as trying different approaches generally leads to better results. Is there any reason for this restriction?</p>\n\n<p>Is this general rule in Kaggle competitions or this is competition specific? If this rule is competition specific, I request admins to increase this limit. Thanks!</p>",
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    {
      "id": "662313",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 12:14:59",
      "content": "<p>IMHO only 2 submissions per day is not sufficient as trying different approaches generally leads to better results. Is there any reason for this restriction?</p>\n\n<p>Is this general rule in Kaggle competitions or this is competition specific? If this rule is competition specific, I request admins to increase this limit. Thanks!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "IMHO only 2 submissions per day is not sufficient as trying different approaches generally leads to better results. Is there any reason for this restriction?\n\nIs this general rule in Kaggle competitions or this is competition specific? If this rule is competition specific, I request admins to increase this limit. Thanks!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662382",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 13:47:22",
      "content": "<p>I think it's a very good decision from Kaggle side:\n* Less LB probing\n* No more 5x teams with 300+ submissions in total\n* Better CV planning\n* More interesting solutions\n* Better overall planning</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think it's a very good decision from Kaggle side:\n* Less LB probing\n* No more 5x teams with 300+ submissions in total\n* Better CV planning\n* More interesting solutions\n* Better overall planning",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662394",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 14:09:05",
      "content": "<p>On the learning side, sufficient is a vague term: should 1 submission daily be considered sufficient? Should 50 submissions daily be considered sufficient? How can this be determined? </p>\n\n<p>From the competition side, we can be sure though: since we all get equal chances (no matter 2 or 5 or 100) the game is fair. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "On the learning side, sufficient is a vague term: should 1 submission daily be considered sufficient? Should 50 submissions daily be considered sufficient? How can this be determined? \n\nFrom the competition side, we can be sure though: since we all get equal chances (no matter 2 or 5 or 100) the game is fair.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662401",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 14:14:10",
      "content": "<p>Good thing is that we have several ongoing competition and each of us can find what serves the goal better. </p>\n\n<p>Think of it as practice challenge - lesson here is to manage better resources you have and find best CV option to survive with 2 submissions per day. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Good thing is that we have several ongoing competition and each of us can find what serves the goal better. \n\nThink of it as practice challenge - lesson here is to manage better resources you have and find best CV option to survive with 2 submissions per day.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662440",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 15:04:57",
      "content": "<p>Look at the person at the top , its been 16 days and he has only made 9 submissions to reach this point.  It is not about how many submissions you make, it is about how many of them are effective. As Mr Yakovlev said, i agree with him. With more submission you are more likely to overfit on public LB, which would be  risky for you. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Look at the person at the top , its been 16 days and he has only made 9 submissions to reach this point.  It is not about how many submissions you make, it is about how many of them are effective. As Mr Yakovlev said, i agree with him. With more submission you are more likely to overfit on public LB, which would be  risky for you.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662470",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 15:36:12",
      "content": "<p>Perfect! This makes sense. Thanks</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Perfect! This makes sense. Thanks",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662659",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 20:26:07",
      "content": "<p>Once again I just agree !</p>\n\n<p>Two submissions, 2 decimal places, too much garbage in Data ...</p>\n\n<p>I can't do more than applause!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Once again I just agree !\n\nTwo submissions, 2 decimal places, too much garbage in Data ...\n\nI can't do more than applause!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662663",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 20:32:17",
      "content": "<p>I can understand why you don't like it, but there is no obligatory participation. If you don't like then just move to other one.</p>\n\n<p>Each competition created for some reason that was set up by organisers. Good or bad goal, good or bad results - they will make analyses after competition ends and evolve. We are here to support them in good faith. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I can understand why you don't like it, but there is no obligatory participation. If you don't like then just move to other one.\n\nEach competition created for some reason that was set up by organisers. Good or bad goal, good or bad results - they will make analyses after competition ends and evolve. We are here to support them in good faith.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662678",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 21:13:54",
      "content": "<p>I don't know what you mean ... \"there is no obligatory participation. \"</p>\n\n<p>I am here to compete , like everybody here, even if I don't like this competition so much.</p>\n\n<p>Don't blame us please !</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I don't know what you mean ... \"there is no obligatory participation. \"\n\nI am here to compete , like everybody here, even if I don't like this competition so much.\n\nDon't blame us please !",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662680",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 21:16:58",
      "content": "<p>Humm... Sorry Fabien Daniel lost his 1st place rigth now...</p>\n\n<p>Hope he will be back soon at TOP, and I'am sure he can.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Humm... Sorry Fabien Daniel lost his 1st place rigth now...\n\nHope he will be back soon at TOP, and I'am sure he can.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662683",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 21:18:14",
      "content": "<p>\"no obligatory participation\" - nobody force you to join this competition. If you don't like - don't enter, just find competition that you like. </p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p>In my opinion you are showing unnecessary aggression with your \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "\"no obligatory participation\" - nobody force you to join this competition. If you don't like - don't enter, just find competition that you like. \n\n---\n\nIn my opinion you are showing unnecessary aggression with your \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662684",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 21:22:57",
      "content": "<p>@Konstantin Yakovlev</p>\n\n<p>You are  <strong>really</strong> brillant for sure and you can surf on 100 competitions at the same time. But not a lot of people can do that .</p>\n\n<p>You are very welcome anyway, and I thank you so much for your help in this competition... Really !</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Konstantin Yakovlev\n\nYou are  **really** brillant for sure and you can surf on 100 competitions at the same time. But not a lot of people can do that .\n\nYou are very welcome anyway, and I thank you so much for your help in this competition... Really !",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662685",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 21:24:56",
      "content": "<p><em>\"no obligatory participation\"</em></p>\n\n<p>This I already known, for a long time !</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "*\"no obligatory participation\"*\n\nThis I already known, for a long time !",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "662706",
      "postDate": "10/31/2019 22:06:42",
      "content": "<p>Yew, who is aggressive ? * \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.*</p>\n\n<p>Please let me be who I am.</p>\n\n<p>And do not mix agressivity (<strong>I aint agressive</strong>) and upsetting (<em>frustrated yes I am</em>), for a better understanding of everyone of us.</p>\n\n<p>Do not spend time on this thread please, it would be more quiet then here...</p>\n\n<p>I am elder than you are, so it is my role to calm it down... that's what I (try to) do.</p>\n\n<p>You are still welcome, when words are words of friendship. </p>\n\n<p>I am so sad tonite... Not her for fighting, my really friend. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yew, who is aggressive ? * \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.*\n\nPlease let me be who I am.\n\nAnd do not mix agressivity (**I aint agressive**) and upsetting (*frustrated yes I am*), for a better understanding of everyone of us.\n\nDo not spend time on this thread please, it would be more quiet then here...\n\nI am elder than you are, so it is my role to calm it down... that's what I (try to) do.\n\nYou are still welcome, when words are words of friendship. \n\nI am so sad tonite... Not her for fighting, my really friend.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "663679",
      "postDate": "11/02/2019 14:15:45",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/kyakovlev\">@kyakovlev</a> Completely agree with you.  Well explained. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "kyakovlev Completely agree with you.  Well explained.",
      "votes": null
    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 662382,
      "author_name": "kyakovlev",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2019 13:47:22",
      "content": "<p>I think it's a very good decision from Kaggle side:\n* Less LB probing\n* No more 5x teams with 300+ submissions in total\n* Better CV planning\n* More interesting solutions\n* Better overall planning</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 662394,
          "author_name": "georsara1",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 14:09:05",
          "content": "<p>On the learning side, sufficient is a vague term: should 1 submission daily be considered sufficient? Should 50 submissions daily be considered sufficient? How can this be determined? </p>\n\n<p>From the competition side, we can be sure though: since we all get equal chances (no matter 2 or 5 or 100) the game is fair. </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662401,
          "author_name": "kyakovlev",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 14:14:10",
          "content": "<p>Good thing is that we have several ongoing competition and each of us can find what serves the goal better. </p>\n\n<p>Think of it as practice challenge - lesson here is to manage better resources you have and find best CV option to survive with 2 submissions per day. </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662684,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 21:22:57",
          "content": "<p>@Konstantin Yakovlev</p>\n\n<p>You are  <strong>really</strong> brillant for sure and you can surf on 100 competitions at the same time. But not a lot of people can do that .</p>\n\n<p>You are very welcome anyway, and I thank you so much for your help in this competition... Really !</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 663679,
          "author_name": "themonologue",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/02/2019 14:15:45",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/kyakovlev\">@kyakovlev</a> Completely agree with you.  Well explained. </p>",
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        }
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      "id": 662440,
      "author_name": "khairulislam",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2019 15:04:57",
      "content": "<p>Look at the person at the top , its been 16 days and he has only made 9 submissions to reach this point.  It is not about how many submissions you make, it is about how many of them are effective. As Mr Yakovlev said, i agree with him. With more submission you are more likely to overfit on public LB, which would be  risky for you. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 662470,
          "author_name": "kaushal2896",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 15:36:12",
          "content": "<p>Perfect! This makes sense. Thanks</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662680,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 21:16:58",
          "content": "<p>Humm... Sorry Fabien Daniel lost his 1st place rigth now...</p>\n\n<p>Hope he will be back soon at TOP, and I'am sure he can.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
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      "id": 662659,
      "author_name": "pfichou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2019 20:26:07",
      "content": "<p>Once again I just agree !</p>\n\n<p>Two submissions, 2 decimal places, too much garbage in Data ...</p>\n\n<p>I can't do more than applause!</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 662663,
          "author_name": "kyakovlev",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 20:32:17",
          "content": "<p>I can understand why you don't like it, but there is no obligatory participation. If you don't like then just move to other one.</p>\n\n<p>Each competition created for some reason that was set up by organisers. Good or bad goal, good or bad results - they will make analyses after competition ends and evolve. We are here to support them in good faith. </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662678,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 21:13:54",
          "content": "<p>I don't know what you mean ... \"there is no obligatory participation. \"</p>\n\n<p>I am here to compete , like everybody here, even if I don't like this competition so much.</p>\n\n<p>Don't blame us please !</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662683,
          "author_name": "kyakovlev",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 21:18:14",
          "content": "<p>\"no obligatory participation\" - nobody force you to join this competition. If you don't like - don't enter, just find competition that you like. </p>\n\n<hr>\n\n<p>In my opinion you are showing unnecessary aggression with your \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.  </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662685,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 21:24:56",
          "content": "<p><em>\"no obligatory participation\"</em></p>\n\n<p>This I already known, for a long time !</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 662706,
          "author_name": "pfichou",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2019 22:06:42",
          "content": "<p>Yew, who is aggressive ? * \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.*</p>\n\n<p>Please let me be who I am.</p>\n\n<p>And do not mix agressivity (<strong>I aint agressive</strong>) and upsetting (<em>frustrated yes I am</em>), for a better understanding of everyone of us.</p>\n\n<p>Do not spend time on this thread please, it would be more quiet then here...</p>\n\n<p>I am elder than you are, so it is my role to calm it down... that's what I (try to) do.</p>\n\n<p>You are still welcome, when words are words of friendship. </p>\n\n<p>I am so sad tonite... Not her for fighting, my really friend. </p>",
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    "662313": "IMHO only 2 submissions per day is not sufficient as trying different approaches generally leads to better results. Is there any reason for this restriction?\n\nIs this general rule in Kaggle competitions or this is competition specific? If this rule is competition specific, I request admins to increase this limit. Thanks!",
    "662382": "I think it's a very good decision from Kaggle side:\n* Less LB probing\n* No more 5x teams with 300+ submissions in total\n* Better CV planning\n* More interesting solutions\n* Better overall planning",
    "662394": "On the learning side, sufficient is a vague term: should 1 submission daily be considered sufficient? Should 50 submissions daily be considered sufficient? How can this be determined? \n\nFrom the competition side, we can be sure though: since we all get equal chances (no matter 2 or 5 or 100) the game is fair.",
    "662401": "Good thing is that we have several ongoing competition and each of us can find what serves the goal better. \n\nThink of it as practice challenge - lesson here is to manage better resources you have and find best CV option to survive with 2 submissions per day.",
    "662440": "Look at the person at the top , its been 16 days and he has only made 9 submissions to reach this point.  It is not about how many submissions you make, it is about how many of them are effective. As Mr Yakovlev said, i agree with him. With more submission you are more likely to overfit on public LB, which would be  risky for you.",
    "662470": "Perfect! This makes sense. Thanks",
    "662659": "Once again I just agree !\n\nTwo submissions, 2 decimal places, too much garbage in Data ...\n\nI can't do more than applause!",
    "662663": "I can understand why you don't like it, but there is no obligatory participation. If you don't like then just move to other one.\n\nEach competition created for some reason that was set up by organisers. Good or bad goal, good or bad results - they will make analyses after competition ends and evolve. We are here to support them in good faith.",
    "662678": "I don't know what you mean ... \"there is no obligatory participation. \"\n\nI am here to compete , like everybody here, even if I don't like this competition so much.\n\nDon't blame us please !",
    "662680": "Humm... Sorry Fabien Daniel lost his 1st place rigth now...\n\nHope he will be back soon at TOP, and I'am sure he can.",
    "662683": "\"no obligatory participation\" - nobody force you to join this competition. If you don't like - don't enter, just find competition that you like. \n\n---\n\nIn my opinion you are showing unnecessary aggression with your \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.",
    "662684": "Konstantin Yakovlev\n\nYou are  **really** brillant for sure and you can surf on 100 competitions at the same time. But not a lot of people can do that .\n\nYou are very welcome anyway, and I thank you so much for your help in this competition... Really !",
    "662685": "*\"no obligatory participation\"*\n\nThis I already known, for a long time !",
    "662706": "Yew, who is aggressive ? * \"not fair\"/\"Don't like\" comments.*\n\nPlease let me be who I am.\n\nAnd do not mix agressivity (**I aint agressive**) and upsetting (*frustrated yes I am*), for a better understanding of everyone of us.\n\nDo not spend time on this thread please, it would be more quiet then here...\n\nI am elder than you are, so it is my role to calm it down... that's what I (try to) do.\n\nYou are still welcome, when words are words of friendship. \n\nI am so sad tonite... Not her for fighting, my really friend.",
    "663679": "kyakovlev Completely agree with you.  Well explained."
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