{
  "id": 115783,
  "title": "square feet vs square meters",
  "url": "/competitions/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115783",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2019-11-05T07:33:30.756915400Z",
  "votes": 43,
  "comment_count": 8,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Some sites use the metric system. The area of the buildings is converted from meters to feet and then rounded.</p>\n\n<p>1 square feet = 0.09290304 square meters</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F47941c25598ff3c22c981f8509f5c69d%2F1.png?generation=1572938222784903&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n\n<p>5, 12, 7 - sites with metric system. And whats wrong with 1?</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F6e91b3c18c56e545f9d1ec50a620f115%2F2.png?generation=1572938915242094&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n\n<p>Most buildings are in square meters and only two clearly indicate otherwise.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "665626",
      "postDate": "11/05/2019 07:33:30",
      "content": "<p>Some sites use the metric system. The area of the buildings is converted from meters to feet and then rounded.</p>\n\n<p>1 square feet = 0.09290304 square meters</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F47941c25598ff3c22c981f8509f5c69d%2F1.png?generation=1572938222784903&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n\n<p>5, 12, 7 - sites with metric system. And whats wrong with 1?</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F6e91b3c18c56e545f9d1ec50a620f115%2F2.png?generation=1572938915242094&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n\n<p>Most buildings are in square meters and only two clearly indicate otherwise.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Some sites use the metric system. The area of the buildings is converted from meters to feet and then rounded.\n\n1 square feet = 0.09290304 square meters\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F47941c25598ff3c22c981f8509f5c69d%2F1.png?generation=1572938222784903&amp;alt=media)\n\n5, 12, 7 - sites with metric system. And whats wrong with 1?\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F6e91b3c18c56e545f9d1ec50a620f115%2F2.png?generation=1572938915242094&amp;alt=media)\n\nMost buildings are in square meters and only two clearly indicate otherwise.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "665856",
      "postDate": "11/05/2019 13:18:40",
      "content": "<p>very useful finding! Thanks for sharing</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "very useful finding! Thanks for sharing",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "665884",
      "postDate": "11/05/2019 13:47:44",
      "content": "<p>interesting finding. Look mixed unit existed as well as mixed timezone in the dataset.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "interesting finding. Look mixed unit existed as well as mixed timezone in the dataset.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "666505",
      "postDate": "11/06/2019 06:40:30",
      "content": "<p>A possible explanation is that Site 1 is in England and some buildings were historically measured in square feet? </p>\n\n<p>Some of the Site 1 buildings are present in the  Building Data Genome Project Database - see <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698\">my post</a> for details. I wonder what your analysis would show for Site 1 after removing the buildings with known square meter measures?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "A possible explanation is that Site 1 is in England and some buildings were historically measured in square feet? \n\nSome of the Site 1 buildings are present in the  Building Data Genome Project Database - see [my post](https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698) for details. I wonder what your analysis would show for Site 1 after removing the buildings with known square meter measures?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "668523",
      "postDate": "11/08/2019 14:21:15",
      "content": "<p>Thanks, very clever method.</p>\n\n<p>And the result agrees with the discussion in <a href=\"/poedator\">@poedator</a> 's post\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698#latest-667385\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698#latest-667385</a></p>\n\n<p>where 0,5,12,7 are the only sites outside US.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks, very clever method.\n\nAnd the result agrees with the discussion in @poedator 's post\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698#latest-667385\n\nwhere 0,5,12,7 are the only sites outside US.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "668533",
      "postDate": "11/08/2019 14:37:45",
      "content": "<p>Interesting. You can connect that with my finding that some temperatures were measured in F and converted to C, while others were directly measured in C.\n1,5,7,11,12 being the sites using Celsius. \n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/114483\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/114483</a></p>\n\n<p>Also, I believe 7,11 are in Canada, 1,5 in England, 12 in Ireland.  (7 and 11 use the same weather data btw)</p>\n\n<p>Canada uses officially the metric system, but would still use square feet a lot. So you might see a mix, which might explain that 11 is not metric.</p>\n\n<p>Maybe something similar is happening in site 1.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Interesting. You can connect that with my finding that some temperatures were measured in F and converted to C, while others were directly measured in C.\n1,5,7,11,12 being the sites using Celsius. \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/114483\n\nAlso, I believe 7,11 are in Canada, 1,5 in England, 12 in Ireland.  (7 and 11 use the same weather data btw)\n\nCanada uses officially the metric system, but would still use square feet a lot. So you might see a mix, which might explain that 11 is not metric.\n\nMaybe something similar is happening in site 1.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "668639",
      "postDate": "11/08/2019 16:49:04",
      "content": "<p>Sites outside US are: 1 (London), 5(UK), 7 and 11 (Ottawa - weather data match), 12 (Dublin)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Sites outside US are: 1 (London), 5(UK), 7 and 11 (Ottawa - weather data match), 12 (Dublin)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "669943",
      "postDate": "11/10/2019 18:19:39",
      "content": "<p>As said and shown by different kagglers, there are mainly 4 countries US, Canada, England and Ireland in the dataset. And I have seen there are dicussions about F and C in air temperature but when I checked them empirically I found that Canada and US both have Celsius air temperature. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks a lot.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "As said and shown by different kagglers, there are mainly 4 countries US, Canada, England and Ireland in the dataset. And I have seen there are dicussions about F and C in air temperature but when I checked them empirically I found that Canada and US both have Celsius air temperature. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks a lot.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "669947",
      "postDate": "11/10/2019 18:28:52",
      "content": "<p>Ottawa and Montreal are close to the border and looking at the weather they can be confused with the city from the USA\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F4b367b4384bd6744cca7182b84e953d3%2F3.png?generation=1573410513984525&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Ottawa and Montreal are close to the border and looking at the weather they can be confused with the city from the USA\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F4b367b4384bd6744cca7182b84e953d3%2F3.png?generation=1573410513984525&amp;alt=media)",
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    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 665856,
      "author_name": "zgzjnbzl",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/05/2019 13:18:40",
      "content": "<p>very useful finding! Thanks for sharing</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 665884,
      "author_name": "wangyong101",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/05/2019 13:47:44",
      "content": "<p>interesting finding. Look mixed unit existed as well as mixed timezone in the dataset.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 666505,
      "author_name": "poedator",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/06/2019 06:40:30",
      "content": "<p>A possible explanation is that Site 1 is in England and some buildings were historically measured in square feet? </p>\n\n<p>Some of the Site 1 buildings are present in the  Building Data Genome Project Database - see <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698\">my post</a> for details. I wonder what your analysis would show for Site 1 after removing the buildings with known square meter measures?</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 668523,
      "author_name": "barnwellguy",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/08/2019 14:21:15",
      "content": "<p>Thanks, very clever method.</p>\n\n<p>And the result agrees with the discussion in <a href=\"/poedator\">@poedator</a> 's post\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698#latest-667385\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698#latest-667385</a></p>\n\n<p>where 0,5,12,7 are the only sites outside US.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 668639,
          "author_name": "kalosisz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/08/2019 16:49:04",
          "content": "<p>Sites outside US are: 1 (London), 5(UK), 7 and 11 (Ottawa - weather data match), 12 (Dublin)</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 668533,
      "author_name": "sdoria",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/08/2019 14:37:45",
      "content": "<p>Interesting. You can connect that with my finding that some temperatures were measured in F and converted to C, while others were directly measured in C.\n1,5,7,11,12 being the sites using Celsius. \n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/114483\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/114483</a></p>\n\n<p>Also, I believe 7,11 are in Canada, 1,5 in England, 12 in Ireland.  (7 and 11 use the same weather data btw)</p>\n\n<p>Canada uses officially the metric system, but would still use square feet a lot. So you might see a mix, which might explain that 11 is not metric.</p>\n\n<p>Maybe something similar is happening in site 1.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 669943,
          "author_name": "yourssharmaji",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/10/2019 18:19:39",
          "content": "<p>As said and shown by different kagglers, there are mainly 4 countries US, Canada, England and Ireland in the dataset. And I have seen there are dicussions about F and C in air temperature but when I checked them empirically I found that Canada and US both have Celsius air temperature. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks a lot.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 669947,
          "author_name": "apostal",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/10/2019 18:28:52",
          "content": "<p>Ottawa and Montreal are close to the border and looking at the weather they can be confused with the city from the USA\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F4b367b4384bd6744cca7182b84e953d3%2F3.png?generation=1573410513984525&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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    "665626": "Some sites use the metric system. The area of the buildings is converted from meters to feet and then rounded.\n\n1 square feet = 0.09290304 square meters\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F47941c25598ff3c22c981f8509f5c69d%2F1.png?generation=1572938222784903&amp;alt=media)\n\n5, 12, 7 - sites with metric system. And whats wrong with 1?\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F6e91b3c18c56e545f9d1ec50a620f115%2F2.png?generation=1572938915242094&amp;alt=media)\n\nMost buildings are in square meters and only two clearly indicate otherwise.",
    "665856": "very useful finding! Thanks for sharing",
    "665884": "interesting finding. Look mixed unit existed as well as mixed timezone in the dataset.",
    "666505": "A possible explanation is that Site 1 is in England and some buildings were historically measured in square feet? \n\nSome of the Site 1 buildings are present in the  Building Data Genome Project Database - see [my post](https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698) for details. I wonder what your analysis would show for Site 1 after removing the buildings with known square meter measures?",
    "668523": "Thanks, very clever method.\n\nAnd the result agrees with the discussion in @poedator 's post\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/115698#latest-667385\n\nwhere 0,5,12,7 are the only sites outside US.",
    "668533": "Interesting. You can connect that with my finding that some temperatures were measured in F and converted to C, while others were directly measured in C.\n1,5,7,11,12 being the sites using Celsius. \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/114483\n\nAlso, I believe 7,11 are in Canada, 1,5 in England, 12 in Ireland.  (7 and 11 use the same weather data btw)\n\nCanada uses officially the metric system, but would still use square feet a lot. So you might see a mix, which might explain that 11 is not metric.\n\nMaybe something similar is happening in site 1.",
    "668639": "Sites outside US are: 1 (London), 5(UK), 7 and 11 (Ottawa - weather data match), 12 (Dublin)",
    "669943": "As said and shown by different kagglers, there are mainly 4 countries US, Canada, England and Ireland in the dataset. And I have seen there are dicussions about F and C in air temperature but when I checked them empirically I found that Canada and US both have Celsius air temperature. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks a lot.",
    "669947": "Ottawa and Montreal are close to the border and looking at the weather they can be confused with the city from the USA\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1757282%2F4b367b4384bd6744cca7182b84e953d3%2F3.png?generation=1573410513984525&amp;alt=media)"
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