{
  "id": 119865,
  "title": "What is the meaning of 0.0 meter reading?",
  "url": "/competitions/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/119865",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2019-12-02T05:34:01.476627500Z",
  "votes": null,
  "comment_count": 3,
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  "content": "<p>Hi all,</p>\n\n<p>This may have been discussed or I just couldn't find the answer for the meaning behind 0.0 meter reading in the training set. I also wonder in the score of the test set, do we expect 0.0 reading values too? </p>\n\n<p>For me they are 2 separate problems if 0.0 is expected in the prediction? Is it because of the failed sensors? or any other reasons?</p>\n\n<p>Thank you.</p>\n\n<p>[No 0 reading at Building ID 0]\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F801574%2F66e5acc637ca16f322fd46abaf0f7b42%2Fno_0_reading.JPG?generation=1575265033541804&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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    {
      "id": "685683",
      "postDate": "12/02/2019 05:34:01",
      "content": "<p>Hi all,</p>\n\n<p>This may have been discussed or I just couldn't find the answer for the meaning behind 0.0 meter reading in the training set. I also wonder in the score of the test set, do we expect 0.0 reading values too? </p>\n\n<p>For me they are 2 separate problems if 0.0 is expected in the prediction? Is it because of the failed sensors? or any other reasons?</p>\n\n<p>Thank you.</p>\n\n<p>[No 0 reading at Building ID 0]\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F801574%2F66e5acc637ca16f322fd46abaf0f7b42%2Fno_0_reading.JPG?generation=1575265033541804&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi all,\n\nThis may have been discussed or I just couldn't find the answer for the meaning behind 0.0 meter reading in the training set. I also wonder in the score of the test set, do we expect 0.0 reading values too? \n\nFor me they are 2 separate problems if 0.0 is expected in the prediction? Is it because of the failed sensors? or any other reasons?\n\nThank you.\n\n[No 0 reading at Building ID 0]\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F801574%2F66e5acc637ca16f322fd46abaf0f7b42%2Fno_0_reading.JPG?generation=1575265033541804&amp;alt=media)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "686817",
      "postDate": "12/03/2019 15:26:54",
      "content": "<p>You can find a similar question <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/113054\">here</a>.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "You can find a similar question [here](https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/113054).",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "687153",
      "postDate": "12/04/2019 01:39:49",
      "content": "<p>I think the answer is \"it depends\".</p>\n\n<p>Seems like some 0.0 are legitimate - for example there are a number of swimming pools that pretty much show only summer energy.  Some 0.0 there look to be the real deal.</p>\n\n<p>Others seem to be very clearly failed sensor readings.  The site_0 early readings are for sure not real - that site was not built in 2016.</p>\n\n<p>When you consider that the meters are spread across 1400+ buildings and 16 sites - than there's going to be a nice mix of real and not real.  This is a super dirty data set - getting it clean would seem to be a high percentage of the problem.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think the answer is \"it depends\".\n\nSeems like some 0.0 are legitimate - for example there are a number of swimming pools that pretty much show only summer energy.  Some 0.0 there look to be the real deal.\n\nOthers seem to be very clearly failed sensor readings.  The site_0 early readings are for sure not real - that site was not built in 2016.\n\nWhen you consider that the meters are spread across 1400+ buildings and 16 sites - than there's going to be a nice mix of real and not real.  This is a super dirty data set - getting it clean would seem to be a high percentage of the problem.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "687246",
      "postDate": "12/04/2019 05:42:38",
      "content": "<p>I agree with <a href=\"/pcjimmmy\">@pcjimmmy</a> , it depends. If it oscillates between 0 and some small value, it is probably correct. But, if it looks like this, clearly something is wrong. It doesn't look natural.</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/2FYZnjr/12.jpg\" alt=\"1\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I agree with @pcjimmmy , it depends. If it oscillates between 0 and some small value, it is probably correct. But, if it looks like this, clearly something is wrong. It doesn't look natural.\n\n![1](https://i.ibb.co/2FYZnjr/12.jpg)",
      "votes": null
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 686817,
      "author_name": "tayorm",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/03/2019 15:26:54",
      "content": "<p>You can find a similar question <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/113054\">here</a>.</p>",
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    },
    {
      "id": 687153,
      "author_name": "pcjimmmy",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/04/2019 01:39:49",
      "content": "<p>I think the answer is \"it depends\".</p>\n\n<p>Seems like some 0.0 are legitimate - for example there are a number of swimming pools that pretty much show only summer energy.  Some 0.0 there look to be the real deal.</p>\n\n<p>Others seem to be very clearly failed sensor readings.  The site_0 early readings are for sure not real - that site was not built in 2016.</p>\n\n<p>When you consider that the meters are spread across 1400+ buildings and 16 sites - than there's going to be a nice mix of real and not real.  This is a super dirty data set - getting it clean would seem to be a high percentage of the problem.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 687246,
      "author_name": "gunesevitan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/04/2019 05:42:38",
      "content": "<p>I agree with <a href=\"/pcjimmmy\">@pcjimmmy</a> , it depends. If it oscillates between 0 and some small value, it is probably correct. But, if it looks like this, clearly something is wrong. It doesn't look natural.</p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/2FYZnjr/12.jpg\" alt=\"1\"></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
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    "685683": "Hi all,\n\nThis may have been discussed or I just couldn't find the answer for the meaning behind 0.0 meter reading in the training set. I also wonder in the score of the test set, do we expect 0.0 reading values too? \n\nFor me they are 2 separate problems if 0.0 is expected in the prediction? Is it because of the failed sensors? or any other reasons?\n\nThank you.\n\n[No 0 reading at Building ID 0]\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F801574%2F66e5acc637ca16f322fd46abaf0f7b42%2Fno_0_reading.JPG?generation=1575265033541804&amp;alt=media)",
    "686817": "You can find a similar question [here](https://www.kaggle.com/c/ashrae-energy-prediction/discussion/113054).",
    "687153": "I think the answer is \"it depends\".\n\nSeems like some 0.0 are legitimate - for example there are a number of swimming pools that pretty much show only summer energy.  Some 0.0 there look to be the real deal.\n\nOthers seem to be very clearly failed sensor readings.  The site_0 early readings are for sure not real - that site was not built in 2016.\n\nWhen you consider that the meters are spread across 1400+ buildings and 16 sites - than there's going to be a nice mix of real and not real.  This is a super dirty data set - getting it clean would seem to be a high percentage of the problem.",
    "687246": "I agree with @pcjimmmy , it depends. If it oscillates between 0 and some small value, it is probably correct. But, if it looks like this, clearly something is wrong. It doesn't look natural.\n\n![1](https://i.ibb.co/2FYZnjr/12.jpg)"
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