{ "id": 10985, "title": "31 October is not just Friday", "url": "/competitions/avazu-ctr-prediction/discussion/10985", "author_name": "", "post_date": "2014-11-20T07:01:39.730Z", "votes": 9, "comment_count": 6, "views": 2106, "content": "

As I can understand in new dataset, we need to extrapolate user behaviour from period of non-holidays to a day with one specific holiday.

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Are organizers understanding clearly the fact that competition result would be far from the best for them? In best case they will get idea how to eliminate "holiday-non holiday" part from the model. More probable they will get some robust models with not so good result.

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Of course there are countries that are not celebrating 'Halloween', but I think that countries are not the aim of this contest.

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It would be great if I am inderstood something wrong and there are no problems.

", "messages": [ { "id": "58495", "postDate": "11/20/2014 07:01:39", "content": "

As I can understand in new dataset, we need to extrapolate user behaviour from period of non-holidays to a day with one specific holiday.

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Are organizers understanding clearly the fact that competition result would be far from the best for them? In best case they will get idea how to eliminate "holiday-non holiday" part from the model. More probable they will get some robust models with not so good result.

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Of course there are countries that are not celebrating 'Halloween', but I think that countries are not the aim of this contest.

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It would be great if I am inderstood something wrong and there are no problems.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "58501", "postDate": "11/20/2014 09:04:26", "content": "

While I agree with the general message of your post, I'm not sure about the "Of course there are countries that are not celebrating 'Halloween', but I think that countries are not the aim of this contest." part: according to Avazu website:

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Avazu Inc was founded in 2009 by Mr. Yi Shi, in Germany. In the same year, the company set up its headquarter in Shanghai, China.(...) Today, Avazu Inc. has established subsidiaries in Beijing, Tokyo, Amsterdam, Brunei and Hong Kong

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I am fairly confident that in at least some of those countries (China, Japan, HK) Halloween isn't much of a deal - can someone familiar with the local specifics confirm?

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "58502", "postDate": "11/20/2014 09:09:50", "content": "

I am not sure how special holiday is October 31. The members of the  Lutheran and some Reformed Churches celebrate Reformation Day. The Roman Catholic Church rather celebrates Nov 1 as All Saints day.

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Based on the previous data release there was a discussion about the top countries.

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  1. India
    2. \n
  2. Indonesia
    3. \n
  3. United States
    4. \n
  4. South Africa 
    5. \n
  5. Pakistan
    6. \n
  6. Brazil
    7. \n
  7. Saudi Arabia
    8. \n
  8. Iraq
    9. \n
  9. Korea
    10. \n
  10. Peru
    11. \n
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US is only the 3rd altough I am not familiar with the holidays in the other listed countries.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "58506", "postDate": "11/20/2014 09:37:06", "content": "

beluga:

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Click price varies hugely in different countries. So, when counting 'money' interest it should be taken into account. For most cases USA, Canada and other developed countries are most interesting countries even if you have less clients there then in India and China (this shouldn't be considered as offense, it's just about price levels and income, not about people). So when you name "Top" countries you also need to mentally multiplicate presented clicks in dataset on mean country ad click price. In this dataset there is no preference between countries in evaluation metric, but this is not big deal in my opinion because tasks solutions are uniform for every country with given data.

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Konrad Banachewicz:

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Also this link is relevant, Helloween is not about USA only, it is also about many developing and developed countries which is hugely affected by american culture:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Halloween

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I don't think it's appropriate to arguing what is most significant for organizers. I wanted to share my worries with organizers and forum is the best place to do that.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "58508", "postDate": "11/20/2014 10:15:10", "content": "

23rd October Thursday: Diwali, one of the biggest holidays in India

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "58510", "postDate": "11/20/2014 11:19:19", "content": "

A note on Halloween. I don't think it can be considered an important holiday. It's a normal working day in the US.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "58631", "postDate": "11/21/2014 19:57:57", "content": "

something else to add to the fun:

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european summer time changed on sunday october 26.

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While I agree with the general message of your post, I'm not sure about the "Of course there are countries that are not celebrating 'Halloween', but I think that countries are not the aim of this contest." part: according to Avazu website:

\n

Avazu Inc was founded in 2009 by Mr. Yi Shi, in Germany. In the same year, the company set up its headquarter in Shanghai, China.(...) Today, Avazu Inc. has established subsidiaries in Beijing, Tokyo, Amsterdam, Brunei and Hong Kong

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I am fairly confident that in at least some of those countries (China, Japan, HK) Halloween isn't much of a deal - can someone familiar with the local specifics confirm?

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 58502, "author_name": "gaborfodor", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/20/2014 09:09:50", "content": "

I am not sure how special holiday is October 31. The members of the  Lutheran and some Reformed Churches celebrate Reformation Day. The Roman Catholic Church rather celebrates Nov 1 as All Saints day.

\n

Based on the previous data release there was a discussion about the top countries.

\n
    \n
  1. India
    2. \n
  2. Indonesia
    3. \n
  3. United States
    4. \n
  4. South Africa 
    5. \n
  5. Pakistan
    6. \n
  6. Brazil
    7. \n
  7. Saudi Arabia
    8. \n
  8. Iraq
    9. \n
  9. Korea
    10. \n
  10. Peru
    11. \n
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US is only the 3rd altough I am not familiar with the holidays in the other listed countries.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 58506, "author_name": "dremovd", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/20/2014 09:37:06", "content": "

beluga:

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Click price varies hugely in different countries. So, when counting 'money' interest it should be taken into account. For most cases USA, Canada and other developed countries are most interesting countries even if you have less clients there then in India and China (this shouldn't be considered as offense, it's just about price levels and income, not about people). So when you name "Top" countries you also need to mentally multiplicate presented clicks in dataset on mean country ad click price. In this dataset there is no preference between countries in evaluation metric, but this is not big deal in my opinion because tasks solutions are uniform for every country with given data.

\n\n

Konrad Banachewicz:

\n\n

Also this link is relevant, Helloween is not about USA only, it is also about many developing and developed countries which is hugely affected by american culture:

\n

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Halloween

\n\n

I don't think it's appropriate to arguing what is most significant for organizers. I wanted to share my worries with organizers and forum is the best place to do that.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 58508, "author_name": "vvarkey", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/20/2014 10:15:10", "content": "

23rd October Thursday: Diwali, one of the biggest holidays in India

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 58510, "author_name": "vvarkey", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/20/2014 11:19:19", "content": "

A note on Halloween. I don't think it can be considered an important holiday. It's a normal working day in the US.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 58631, "author_name": "vvarkey", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/21/2014 19:57:57", "content": "

something else to add to the fun:

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european summer time changed on sunday october 26.

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