{ "id": 9721, "title": "Timeline Change", "url": "/competitions/avito-prohibited-content/discussion/9721", "author_name": "", "post_date": "2014-07-11T21:48:28.663Z", "votes": null, "comment_count": 7, "views": 2744, "content": "

Hi Everyone,

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Congratulations on making swift progress on this problem! The hosts at Avito are very impressed by the leaderboard scores and excited to learn about the approaches, as well being eager to host their next competition. The rapid progress suggests that we have incorrectly estimated the time necessary for this competition. As a result, the deadline is being changed to Sunday August 31 at 11:59 PM UTC.

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Timing a competition is an art. We attempt to balance competition discovery, model building, and the benefits of the leaderboard's competitive dynamics. We understand that any change to competition parameters mid-flight affects the plans and expectations of participants, and do not make such changes lightly. Since we are fewer than 3 weeks in, and the deadline is more than 7 weeks away, we believe that shortening the duration is the least invasive way to deliver on the aims of the competition.

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There will be no more changes to this competition's timeline. Competition deadlines will never be shortened without providing ample notice prior to the deadline. This includes both a reasonable timeframe to create a model and a reasonable timeframe to be notified of and adjust to the updated schedule.

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Thanks to everyone for your participation and understanding.

", "messages": [ { "id": "50370", "postDate": "07/11/2014 21:48:28", "content": "

Hi Everyone,

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Congratulations on making swift progress on this problem! The hosts at Avito are very impressed by the leaderboard scores and excited to learn about the approaches, as well being eager to host their next competition. The rapid progress suggests that we have incorrectly estimated the time necessary for this competition. As a result, the deadline is being changed to Sunday August 31 at 11:59 PM UTC.

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Timing a competition is an art. We attempt to balance competition discovery, model building, and the benefits of the leaderboard's competitive dynamics. We understand that any change to competition parameters mid-flight affects the plans and expectations of participants, and do not make such changes lightly. Since we are fewer than 3 weeks in, and the deadline is more than 7 weeks away, we believe that shortening the duration is the least invasive way to deliver on the aims of the competition.

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There will be no more changes to this competition's timeline. Competition deadlines will never be shortened without providing ample notice prior to the deadline. This includes both a reasonable timeframe to create a model and a reasonable timeframe to be notified of and adjust to the updated schedule.

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Thanks to everyone for your participation and understanding.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "50803", "postDate": "07/17/2014 21:02:28", "content": "

[quote=joycenv;50370]

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Congratulations on making swift progress on this problem! The hosts at Avito are very impressed by the leaderboard scores and excited to learn about the approaches

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I think they might be in for a surprise. The unorthodox evaluation metric promotes going for the low hanging fruit.

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[quote=joycenv;50370]

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There will be no more changes to this competition's timeline.

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Could you also please confirm the evaluation metric will not be changed?

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I've just started looking at this competition, and haven't submitted anything yet. But I don't want to spend two weeks picking fruits until someone scores 0.99999 and the rules are changed.

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Thank you!

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "50807", "postDate": "07/17/2014 23:15:48", "content": "

I can confirm that the evaluation metric will not change.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "52509", "postDate": "08/27/2014 14:59:12", "content": "

Hey, @joycenv! I was working on the solution for almost a day and finally found out that "competition is closed to new entrants".

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Why it is so?

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "52510", "postDate": "08/27/2014 16:15:06", "content": "

Hi Vyacheslav,

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Most competitions will have an "Enter By" deadline and a "Competition is Closed" deadline. The Enter By deadline is to prevent participants from creating last-minute accounts and flooding the leaderboard in a final attempt to gain some sort of advantage in the days before the competition closes. Moreover, most competitions will require more than one week of work, so the deadline also encourages people to start working, and to submit at least one submission, a little earlier.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "52511", "postDate": "08/27/2014 16:16:57", "content": "

It is meant to discourage cheating by creating dummy accounts at the 11th hour.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "52519", "postDate": "08/27/2014 17:29:30", "content": "

Thanks for the answering! 

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It may be more convenient to notify users somehow if competition still available for new entrants.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "52520", "postDate": "08/27/2014 17:33:05", "content": "

Not sure if you noticed, but below every competition name there is a timeline bar. As time progresses the gray line turns blue to show how far into the competition we are. There is a marker showing important deadlines as well; hovering over it gives more information. And there is the Timeline page. We definitely want people to know about all the important dates associated with each competition.

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[quote=joycenv;50370]

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Congratulations on making swift progress on this problem! The hosts at Avito are very impressed by the leaderboard scores and excited to learn about the approaches

\n

[/quote]

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I think they might be in for a surprise. The unorthodox evaluation metric promotes going for the low hanging fruit.

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[quote=joycenv;50370]

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There will be no more changes to this competition's timeline.

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[/quote]

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Could you also please confirm the evaluation metric will not be changed?

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I've just started looking at this competition, and haven't submitted anything yet. But I don't want to spend two weeks picking fruits until someone scores 0.99999 and the rules are changed.

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Thank you!

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 50807, "author_name": "joycenv", "author_url": "", "post_date": "07/17/2014 23:15:48", "content": "

I can confirm that the evaluation metric will not change.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 52509, "author_name": "insearch", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/27/2014 14:59:12", "content": "

Hey, @joycenv! I was working on the solution for almost a day and finally found out that "competition is closed to new entrants".

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Why it is so?

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 52510, "author_name": "joycenv", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/27/2014 16:15:06", "content": "

Hi Vyacheslav,

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Most competitions will have an "Enter By" deadline and a "Competition is Closed" deadline. The Enter By deadline is to prevent participants from creating last-minute accounts and flooding the leaderboard in a final attempt to gain some sort of advantage in the days before the competition closes. Moreover, most competitions will require more than one week of work, so the deadline also encourages people to start working, and to submit at least one submission, a little earlier.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 52511, "author_name": "sirguessalot", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/27/2014 16:16:57", "content": "

It is meant to discourage cheating by creating dummy accounts at the 11th hour.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 52519, "author_name": "insearch", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/27/2014 17:29:30", "content": "

Thanks for the answering! 

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It may be more convenient to notify users somehow if competition still available for new entrants.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 52520, "author_name": "joycenv", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/27/2014 17:33:05", "content": "

Not sure if you noticed, but below every competition name there is a timeline bar. As time progresses the gray line turns blue to show how far into the competition we are. There is a marker showing important deadlines as well; hovering over it gives more information. And there is the Timeline page. We definitely want people to know about all the important dates associated with each competition.

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