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  "id": 471198,
  "title": "lgbm dart?",
  "url": "/competitions/bench-tab-v1/discussion/471198",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-01-27T10:39:56.762237900Z",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 3,
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  "content": "<p>From past competitions we learned that the dart booster from lgbm could bring performance (at the cost of run time). The dart booster acts as NNs drop-out. However here it seems that it kills performance (see: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/lucasmorin/benchtab-v1-lgbms\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/lucasmorin/benchtab-v1-lgbms</a> ). I was wondering if there is something inherently wrong with my implementation. I would expect just switching to dart would work. </p>",
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      "id": "2622213",
      "postDate": "01/27/2024 10:39:56",
      "content": "<p>From past competitions we learned that the dart booster from lgbm could bring performance (at the cost of run time). The dart booster acts as NNs drop-out. However here it seems that it kills performance (see: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/lucasmorin/benchtab-v1-lgbms\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/lucasmorin/benchtab-v1-lgbms</a> ). I was wondering if there is something inherently wrong with my implementation. I would expect just switching to dart would work. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "From past competitions we learned that the dart booster from lgbm could bring performance (at the cost of run time). The dart booster acts as NNs drop-out. However here it seems that it kills performance (see: https://www.kaggle.com/code/lucasmorin/benchtab-v1-lgbms ). I was wondering if there is something inherently wrong with my implementation. I would expect just switching to dart would work.",
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    {
      "id": "2628591",
      "postDate": "01/31/2024 11:53:11",
      "content": "<p>Is the notebook private? Can't open the link…</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Is the notebook private? Can't open the link...",
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      "id": "2628594",
      "postDate": "01/31/2024 11:54:27",
      "content": "<p>In case you are tuning hyperparams. From what i recall dart is much slower. So in the same time window LGBM might be able to have more tuning rounds with other boosters.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In case you are tuning hyperparams. From what i recall dart is much slower. So in the same time window LGBM might be able to have more tuning rounds with other boosters.",
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    {
      "id": "2630274",
      "postDate": "02/01/2024 08:32:33",
      "content": "<p>no just swithching booster to 'dart'…</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "no just swithching booster to 'dart'...",
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      "id": 2628591,
      "author_name": "thomasmeiner",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/31/2024 11:53:11",
      "content": "<p>Is the notebook private? Can't open the link…</p>",
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    {
      "id": 2628594,
      "author_name": "thomasmeiner",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/31/2024 11:54:27",
      "content": "<p>In case you are tuning hyperparams. From what i recall dart is much slower. So in the same time window LGBM might be able to have more tuning rounds with other boosters.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2630274,
          "author_name": "lucasmorin",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "02/01/2024 08:32:33",
          "content": "<p>no just swithching booster to 'dart'…</p>",
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    "2622213": "From past competitions we learned that the dart booster from lgbm could bring performance (at the cost of run time). The dart booster acts as NNs drop-out. However here it seems that it kills performance (see: https://www.kaggle.com/code/lucasmorin/benchtab-v1-lgbms ). I was wondering if there is something inherently wrong with my implementation. I would expect just switching to dart would work.",
    "2628591": "Is the notebook private? Can't open the link...",
    "2628594": "In case you are tuning hyperparams. From what i recall dart is much slower. So in the same time window LGBM might be able to have more tuning rounds with other boosters.",
    "2630274": "no just swithching booster to 'dart'..."
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