{
  "id": 400581,
  "title": "Question to organizers: Does the hidden test set contain any grouped / stacked / bidirectional bar graphs?",
  "url": "/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/400581",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-04-09T07:33:27.463207700Z",
  "votes": 7,
  "comment_count": 8,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Example of grouped bar graph:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2Fc21147aecee0afea262114119f057f60%2Fgrouped-bar-example-1.png?generation=1681025541070991&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>Example of stacked bar graph:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F4667ed6740cde47da04182d0c7a72b57%2Fstacked-bar-options-1.png?generation=1681025566757245&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>Example of bidirectional bar graph:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F1b1ff2c41f401a779edfaf213d92c7cc%2FPMC2694691___ddp18105b.jpg?generation=1681032143964699&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>The training set doesn't contain any such examples. However, I was wondering if the hidden test set does.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2215253",
      "postDate": "04/09/2023 07:33:27",
      "content": "<p>Example of grouped bar graph:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2Fc21147aecee0afea262114119f057f60%2Fgrouped-bar-example-1.png?generation=1681025541070991&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>Example of stacked bar graph:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F4667ed6740cde47da04182d0c7a72b57%2Fstacked-bar-options-1.png?generation=1681025566757245&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>Example of bidirectional bar graph:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F1b1ff2c41f401a779edfaf213d92c7cc%2FPMC2694691___ddp18105b.jpg?generation=1681032143964699&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>The training set doesn't contain any such examples. However, I was wondering if the hidden test set does.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Example of grouped bar graph:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2Fc21147aecee0afea262114119f057f60%2Fgrouped-bar-example-1.png?generation=1681025541070991&alt=media)\n\nExample of stacked bar graph:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F4667ed6740cde47da04182d0c7a72b57%2Fstacked-bar-options-1.png?generation=1681025566757245&alt=media)\n\nExample of bidirectional bar graph:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F1b1ff2c41f401a779edfaf213d92c7cc%2FPMC2694691___ddp18105b.jpg?generation=1681032143964699&alt=media)\n\nThe training set doesn't contain any such examples. However, I was wondering if the hidden test set does.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2221837",
      "postDate": "04/14/2023 16:12:59",
      "content": "<p>Hey there,</p>\n<p>Thanks for your question.</p>\n<p>There are no grouped/stacked/bidirectional bar graphs in the test dataset.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hey there,\n\nThanks for your question.\n\nThere are no grouped/stacked/bidirectional bar graphs in the test dataset.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2229421",
      "postDate": "04/21/2023 10:56:13",
      "content": "<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F3823496%2Fc741cf26226029e2dd1cd34090a4b817%2F2023-04-21%2019.52.17.png?generation=1682074404081536&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/benjiaa\" target=\"_blank\">@benjiaa</a><br>\nI have a similar question.<br>\nAre scatter plots with multiple labels like this included in the test data set?</p>\n<p>(In the above example, each point contains the label information \"0\" and \"1\" in addition to the x-value and y-value information.)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F3823496%2Fc741cf26226029e2dd1cd34090a4b817%2F2023-04-21%2019.52.17.png?generation=1682074404081536&alt=media)\n\n@benjiaa\nI have a similar question.\nAre scatter plots with multiple labels like this included in the test data set?\n\n(In the above example, each point contains the label information \"0\" and \"1\" in addition to the x-value and y-value information.)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2230838",
      "postDate": "04/22/2023 19:39:33",
      "content": "<p>Do you have ugly 3D bar charts like this? <br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F18102%2Fb17cebd53577d2e4a0a2221ea662f335%2FScreenshot%202023-04-22%20at%2021.38.01.png?generation=1682192360727585&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Do you have ugly 3D bar charts like this? \n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F18102%2Fb17cebd53577d2e4a0a2221ea662f335%2FScreenshot%202023-04-22%20at%2021.38.01.png?generation=1682192360727585&alt=media)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2241433",
      "postDate": "05/01/2023 14:00:12",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for your patience.</p>\n<p>There are no ugly 3D charts in the test or train sets.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for your patience.\n\nThere are no ugly 3D charts in the test or train sets.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2241434",
      "postDate": "05/01/2023 14:00:56",
      "content": "<p>Hey there,</p>\n<p>No, multiple data series in the same chart does not happen in the dataset.</p>\n<p>Thanks for your patience.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hey there,\n\nNo, multiple data series in the same chart does not happen in the dataset.\n\nThanks for your patience.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2254868",
      "postDate": "05/11/2023 10:02:20",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/benjiaa\" target=\"_blank\">@benjiaa</a></p>\n<p>Thanks for hosting this interesting competition.</p>\n<p>Can you confirm there will be <strong>no new chart types</strong> in the private test set ?<br>\nI.e. we can only have dot, line, vertical_bar, scatter &amp; horizontal_bar charts. </p>\n<p>I'm assuming that is the case, but wanted to make sure. It's important because that means we only need to build models robust to new styles (and a new class data distribution), not completely new diagrams :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "benjiaa\n\nThanks for hosting this interesting competition.\n\nCan you confirm there will be **no new chart types** in the private test set ?\nI.e. we can only have dot, line, vertical_bar, scatter & horizontal_bar charts. \n\nI'm assuming that is the case, but wanted to make sure. It's important because that means we only need to build models robust to new styles (and a new class data distribution), not completely new diagrams :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2255082",
      "postDate": "05/11/2023 13:45:57",
      "content": "<p>Yes, this is the case. No new chart types in the private test set.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes, this is the case. No new chart types in the private test set.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2255148",
      "postDate": "05/11/2023 14:32:29",
      "content": "<p>Alright ! Thanks for the quick reply </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Alright ! Thanks for the quick reply",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2221837,
      "author_name": "benjiaa",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/14/2023 16:12:59",
      "content": "<p>Hey there,</p>\n<p>Thanks for your question.</p>\n<p>There are no grouped/stacked/bidirectional bar graphs in the test dataset.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2229421,
      "author_name": "kashiwaba",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2023 10:56:13",
      "content": "<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F3823496%2Fc741cf26226029e2dd1cd34090a4b817%2F2023-04-21%2019.52.17.png?generation=1682074404081536&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/benjiaa\" target=\"_blank\">@benjiaa</a><br>\nI have a similar question.<br>\nAre scatter plots with multiple labels like this included in the test data set?</p>\n<p>(In the above example, each point contains the label information \"0\" and \"1\" in addition to the x-value and y-value information.)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2241434,
          "author_name": "benjiaa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/01/2023 14:00:56",
          "content": "<p>Hey there,</p>\n<p>No, multiple data series in the same chart does not happen in the dataset.</p>\n<p>Thanks for your patience.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2230838,
      "author_name": "gaborfodor",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/22/2023 19:39:33",
      "content": "<p>Do you have ugly 3D bar charts like this? <br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F18102%2Fb17cebd53577d2e4a0a2221ea662f335%2FScreenshot%202023-04-22%20at%2021.38.01.png?generation=1682192360727585&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2241433,
          "author_name": "benjiaa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/01/2023 14:00:12",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for your patience.</p>\n<p>There are no ugly 3D charts in the test or train sets.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2254868,
      "author_name": "theoviel",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/11/2023 10:02:20",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/benjiaa\" target=\"_blank\">@benjiaa</a></p>\n<p>Thanks for hosting this interesting competition.</p>\n<p>Can you confirm there will be <strong>no new chart types</strong> in the private test set ?<br>\nI.e. we can only have dot, line, vertical_bar, scatter &amp; horizontal_bar charts. </p>\n<p>I'm assuming that is the case, but wanted to make sure. It's important because that means we only need to build models robust to new styles (and a new class data distribution), not completely new diagrams :)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2255082,
          "author_name": "benjiaa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/11/2023 13:45:57",
          "content": "<p>Yes, this is the case. No new chart types in the private test set.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2255148,
              "author_name": "theoviel",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "05/11/2023 14:32:29",
              "content": "<p>Alright ! Thanks for the quick reply </p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
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    "2215253": "Example of grouped bar graph:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2Fc21147aecee0afea262114119f057f60%2Fgrouped-bar-example-1.png?generation=1681025541070991&alt=media)\n\nExample of stacked bar graph:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F4667ed6740cde47da04182d0c7a72b57%2Fstacked-bar-options-1.png?generation=1681025566757245&alt=media)\n\nExample of bidirectional bar graph:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1191272%2F1b1ff2c41f401a779edfaf213d92c7cc%2FPMC2694691___ddp18105b.jpg?generation=1681032143964699&alt=media)\n\nThe training set doesn't contain any such examples. However, I was wondering if the hidden test set does.",
    "2221837": "Hey there,\n\nThanks for your question.\n\nThere are no grouped/stacked/bidirectional bar graphs in the test dataset.",
    "2229421": "![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F3823496%2Fc741cf26226029e2dd1cd34090a4b817%2F2023-04-21%2019.52.17.png?generation=1682074404081536&alt=media)\n\n@benjiaa\nI have a similar question.\nAre scatter plots with multiple labels like this included in the test data set?\n\n(In the above example, each point contains the label information \"0\" and \"1\" in addition to the x-value and y-value information.)",
    "2230838": "Do you have ugly 3D bar charts like this? \n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F18102%2Fb17cebd53577d2e4a0a2221ea662f335%2FScreenshot%202023-04-22%20at%2021.38.01.png?generation=1682192360727585&alt=media)",
    "2241433": "Thanks for your patience.\n\nThere are no ugly 3D charts in the test or train sets.",
    "2241434": "Hey there,\n\nNo, multiple data series in the same chart does not happen in the dataset.\n\nThanks for your patience.",
    "2254868": "benjiaa\n\nThanks for hosting this interesting competition.\n\nCan you confirm there will be **no new chart types** in the private test set ?\nI.e. we can only have dot, line, vertical_bar, scatter & horizontal_bar charts. \n\nI'm assuming that is the case, but wanted to make sure. It's important because that means we only need to build models robust to new styles (and a new class data distribution), not completely new diagrams :)",
    "2255082": "Yes, this is the case. No new chart types in the private test set.",
    "2255148": "Alright ! Thanks for the quick reply"
  },
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