{
  "id": 415476,
  "title": "Request for answers from competition hosts",
  "url": "/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/415476",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-06-06T15:43:10.735453800Z",
  "votes": 6,
  "comment_count": 4,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/benjiaa\" target=\"_blank\">@benjiaa</a> I believe it is only reasonable to ask for an update about how the final submissions will be handled given the new data requirements, despite that the data page recommended this data to us originally. </p>\n<p>As <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/meli19\" target=\"_blank\">@meli19</a> suggested without an investigation into the medal winner's submissions it would be difficult to tell if the solutions are following the new guidelines. So should we continue to use it anyway to try to get our medals or will it be ineligible? There are many other license questions now being asked as well and with now only 13 days left in the competition and rule changes in full swing radio silence is not respectful of the time and effort many of us have put in for this project. Many of us have spent countless hours on this in the last 90 days and now we need clear answers about what will count and what will not for prize winners, medal winners, and the rest. </p>",
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    {
      "id": "2290162",
      "postDate": "06/06/2023 15:43:10",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/benjiaa\" target=\"_blank\">@benjiaa</a> I believe it is only reasonable to ask for an update about how the final submissions will be handled given the new data requirements, despite that the data page recommended this data to us originally. </p>\n<p>As <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/meli19\" target=\"_blank\">@meli19</a> suggested without an investigation into the medal winner's submissions it would be difficult to tell if the solutions are following the new guidelines. So should we continue to use it anyway to try to get our medals or will it be ineligible? There are many other license questions now being asked as well and with now only 13 days left in the competition and rule changes in full swing radio silence is not respectful of the time and effort many of us have put in for this project. Many of us have spent countless hours on this in the last 90 days and now we need clear answers about what will count and what will not for prize winners, medal winners, and the rest. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "benjiaa I believe it is only reasonable to ask for an update about how the final submissions will be handled given the new data requirements, despite that the data page recommended this data to us originally. \n\nAs @meli19 suggested without an investigation into the medal winner's submissions it would be difficult to tell if the solutions are following the new guidelines. So should we continue to use it anyway to try to get our medals or will it be ineligible? There are many other license questions now being asked as well and with now only 13 days left in the competition and rule changes in full swing radio silence is not respectful of the time and effort many of us have put in for this project. Many of us have spent countless hours on this in the last 90 days and now we need clear answers about what will count and what will not for prize winners, medal winners, and the rest.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2290228",
      "postDate": "06/06/2023 16:29:15",
      "content": "<p>Since I may have entered this competition quite late, I didn't see the previously recommended datasets in the data page that you mentioned, but which are now not in accordance with the rules. Through browsing some threads, I found that ICDAR is one of them. Are there any others?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Since I may have entered this competition quite late, I didn't see the previously recommended datasets in the data page that you mentioned, but which are now not in accordance with the rules. Through browsing some threads, I found that ICDAR is one of them. Are there any others?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2290236",
      "postDate": "06/06/2023 16:34:13",
      "content": "<p>To my knowledge no, however, there very well could be. I do know one dataset I would recommend is being dubbed as the \"Bartley data\" which you can find here <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/415470\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/415470</a></p>\n<p>This seems to be fair game and adds quite a bit of volume to the dataset.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "To my knowledge no, however, there very well could be. I do know one dataset I would recommend is being dubbed as the \"Bartley data\" which you can find here https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/415470\n\nThis seems to be fair game and adds quite a bit of volume to the dataset.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2290245",
      "postDate": "06/06/2023 16:38:02",
      "content": "<p>I have been participating in this competition since the beginning. Only the ICDAR(chart-info) dataset was introduced by the host as external data. The complete wording is in <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/407485#2255165\" target=\"_blank\">this comment</a>.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I have been participating in this competition since the beginning. Only the ICDAR(chart-info) dataset was introduced by the host as external data. The complete wording is in [this comment](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/407485#2255165).",
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    },
    {
      "id": "2290246",
      "postDate": "06/06/2023 16:38:20",
      "content": "<p>Got it. Thanks <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ryotayoshinobu\" target=\"_blank\">@ryotayoshinobu</a> </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Got it. Thanks @ryotayoshinobu",
      "votes": null
    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2290228,
      "author_name": "zifencai",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "06/06/2023 16:29:15",
      "content": "<p>Since I may have entered this competition quite late, I didn't see the previously recommended datasets in the data page that you mentioned, but which are now not in accordance with the rules. Through browsing some threads, I found that ICDAR is one of them. Are there any others?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2290236,
          "author_name": "cody11null",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "06/06/2023 16:34:13",
          "content": "<p>To my knowledge no, however, there very well could be. I do know one dataset I would recommend is being dubbed as the \"Bartley data\" which you can find here <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/415470\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/415470</a></p>\n<p>This seems to be fair game and adds quite a bit of volume to the dataset.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2290245,
              "author_name": "ryotayoshinobu",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "06/06/2023 16:38:02",
              "content": "<p>I have been participating in this competition since the beginning. Only the ICDAR(chart-info) dataset was introduced by the host as external data. The complete wording is in <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/407485#2255165\" target=\"_blank\">this comment</a>.</p>",
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              "id": 2290246,
              "author_name": "zifencai",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "06/06/2023 16:38:20",
              "content": "<p>Got it. Thanks <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ryotayoshinobu\" target=\"_blank\">@ryotayoshinobu</a> </p>",
              "votes": null,
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    "2290162": "benjiaa I believe it is only reasonable to ask for an update about how the final submissions will be handled given the new data requirements, despite that the data page recommended this data to us originally. \n\nAs @meli19 suggested without an investigation into the medal winner's submissions it would be difficult to tell if the solutions are following the new guidelines. So should we continue to use it anyway to try to get our medals or will it be ineligible? There are many other license questions now being asked as well and with now only 13 days left in the competition and rule changes in full swing radio silence is not respectful of the time and effort many of us have put in for this project. Many of us have spent countless hours on this in the last 90 days and now we need clear answers about what will count and what will not for prize winners, medal winners, and the rest.",
    "2290228": "Since I may have entered this competition quite late, I didn't see the previously recommended datasets in the data page that you mentioned, but which are now not in accordance with the rules. Through browsing some threads, I found that ICDAR is one of them. Are there any others?",
    "2290236": "To my knowledge no, however, there very well could be. I do know one dataset I would recommend is being dubbed as the \"Bartley data\" which you can find here https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/415470\n\nThis seems to be fair game and adds quite a bit of volume to the dataset.",
    "2290245": "I have been participating in this competition since the beginning. Only the ICDAR(chart-info) dataset was introduced by the host as external data. The complete wording is in [this comment](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/benetech-making-graphs-accessible/discussion/407485#2255165).",
    "2290246": "Got it. Thanks @ryotayoshinobu"
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