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  "id": 4138,
  "title": "Formalism",
  "url": "/competitions/cause-effect-pairs/discussion/4138",
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  "post_date": "2013-03-29T22:30:17.670Z",
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  "content": "<p>I wonder about the definition of &quot;A-B&quot; and &quot;A|B&quot; (e.g. in the details column of CEdata_train_target.csv).&nbsp;</p>\r\n<p>Can somebody help me out?</p>",
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      "content": "<p>I wonder about the definition of &quot;A-B&quot; and &quot;A|B&quot; (e.g. in the details column of CEdata_train_target.csv).&nbsp;</p>\r\n<p>Can somebody help me out?</p>",
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      "postDate": "03/29/2013 23:01:30",
      "content": "<p>A-B means that the two variables are dependent, but NOT causally related, i.e., the dependency is explained by the presence of a common cause &quot;Z&quot;. This is sometimes represented as A&lt;-Z-&gt;B or A&lt;-&gt;B.&nbsp;</p>\r\n<p>A-B does NOT mean that we have both A&lt;-B and A-&gt;B (cycles). To our knowledge, there is no instance of cycles in our data.</p>\r\n<p>A|B means that A and B are independent (not related at all whatsoever). This should be &quot;easy&quot; to detect with a stastistical independence test (with some uncertainty when there are few data points).</p>",
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      "author_name": "iguyon",
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      "post_date": "03/29/2013 23:01:30",
      "content": "<p>A-B means that the two variables are dependent, but NOT causally related, i.e., the dependency is explained by the presence of a common cause &quot;Z&quot;. This is sometimes represented as A&lt;-Z-&gt;B or A&lt;-&gt;B.&nbsp;</p>\r\n<p>A-B does NOT mean that we have both A&lt;-B and A-&gt;B (cycles). To our knowledge, there is no instance of cycles in our data.</p>\r\n<p>A|B means that A and B are independent (not related at all whatsoever). This should be &quot;easy&quot; to detect with a stastistical independence test (with some uncertainty when there are few data points).</p>",
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