{
  "id": 105088,
  "title": "How much score can you boost with ensemble",
  "url": "/competitions/champs-scalar-coupling/discussion/105088",
  "author_name": "senkin13",
  "post_date": "2019-08-21T05:37:43.011000",
  "votes": 7,
  "comment_count": 9,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Now our best single model's LB is -2.740, ensemble is -2.815. \n16 days ago our best single model is -2.474 but ensemble can reach to -2.598, is it normal?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 604170,
      "postDate": "2019-08-21T05:37:43.010Z",
      "content": "<p>Now our best single model's LB is -2.740, ensemble is -2.815. \n16 days ago our best single model is -2.474 but ensemble can reach to -2.598, is it normal?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Now our best single model's LB is -2.740, ensemble is -2.815. \n16 days ago our best single model is -2.474 but ensemble can reach to -2.598, is it normal?",
      "votes": 7
    },
    {
      "id": 604417,
      "postDate": "2019-08-21T11:11:39.737Z",
      "content": "<p>Ensemble is like Random Forest.  Random Forest with simple tree, it maybe lead great improve(usually +0.2? if binary auc).  Howerver, Random Forest with GBDT, it just little improve (usually +0.05? if binary auc.  it is called random seed average).\nIf you get nice score, ensemble won't work well because the model is already fitted data, I think.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Ensemble is like Random Forest.  Random Forest with simple tree, it maybe lead great improve(usually +0.2? if binary auc).  Howerver, Random Forest with GBDT, it just little improve (usually +0.05? if binary auc.  it is called random seed average).\nIf you get nice score, ensemble won't work well because the model is already fitted data, I think.",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 604201,
      "postDate": "2019-08-21T06:22:17.840Z",
      "content": "<p>I think it is normal that improving over base models becomes harder when the base models get better.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think it is normal that improving over base models becomes harder when the base models get better.\n",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 604226,
          "postDate": "2019-08-21T07:11:16.003Z",
          "content": "<p>Thanks, I feel at ease from your reply. ;)</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thanks, I feel at ease from your reply. ;)",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 604328,
      "postDate": "2019-08-21T09:18:24.513Z",
      "content": "<p>I think that it really depends on what techniques already been used to the ensemble, if there's many lacking, probably very much.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think that it really depends on what techniques already been used to the ensemble, if there's many lacking, probably very much.",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 604358,
          "postDate": "2019-08-21T09:52:43.957Z",
          "content": "<p>what do you mean \"many lacking\"?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "what do you mean \"many lacking\"?"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 604223,
      "postDate": "2019-08-21T07:07:07.610Z",
      "content": "<p>LightGBM? Could you share the cross-validation result for each type?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "LightGBM? Could you share the cross-validation result for each type?",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 604228,
          "postDate": "2019-08-21T07:11:33.233Z",
          "content": "<p>Definitely，GNN\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F2513130%2F389bdd933bafe2216416e21e08fe617e%2F20190821151305.png?generation=1566371624681533&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Definitely，GNN\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F2513130%2F389bdd933bafe2216416e21e08fe617e%2F20190821151305.png?generation=1566371624681533&amp;alt=media)\n",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 604235,
          "postDate": "2019-08-21T07:13:29.407Z",
          "content": "<p>look at here. <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/champs-scalar-coupling/discussion/98444#latest-602104\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/champs-scalar-coupling/discussion/98444#latest-602104</a></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "look at here. https://www.kaggle.com/c/champs-scalar-coupling/discussion/98444#latest-602104",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 604211,
      "postDate": "2019-08-21T06:36:09.943Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "isDeleted": true
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 604417,
      "author_name": "yCarbon",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-08-21T11:11:39.737000",
      "content": "<p>Ensemble is like Random Forest.  Random Forest with simple tree, it maybe lead great improve(usually +0.2? if binary auc).  Howerver, Random Forest with GBDT, it just little improve (usually +0.05? if binary auc.  it is called random seed average).\nIf you get nice score, ensemble won't work well because the model is already fitted data, I think.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 604201,
      "author_name": "CPMP",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-08-21T06:22:17.840000",
      "content": "<p>I think it is normal that improving over base models becomes harder when the base models get better.</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 604226,
          "author_name": "senkin13",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-08-21T07:11:16.003000",
          "content": "<p>Thanks, I feel at ease from your reply. ;)</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 604328,
      "author_name": "Brun",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-08-21T09:18:24.513000",
      "content": "<p>I think that it really depends on what techniques already been used to the ensemble, if there's many lacking, probably very much.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 604358,
          "author_name": "senkin13",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-08-21T09:52:43.957000",
          "content": "<p>what do you mean \"many lacking\"?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 604223,
      "author_name": "Aleksandr Kosolapov",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-08-21T07:07:07.610000",
      "content": "<p>LightGBM? Could you share the cross-validation result for each type?</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 604228,
          "author_name": "fwj7",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-08-21T07:11:33.233000",
          "content": "<p>Definitely，GNN\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F2513130%2F389bdd933bafe2216416e21e08fe617e%2F20190821151305.png?generation=1566371624681533&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 604235,
          "author_name": "senkin13",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-08-21T07:13:29.407000",
          "content": "<p>look at here. <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/champs-scalar-coupling/discussion/98444#latest-602104\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/champs-scalar-coupling/discussion/98444#latest-602104</a></p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 604211,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-08-21T06:36:09.943000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
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    "604170": "Now our best single model's LB is -2.740, ensemble is -2.815. \n16 days ago our best single model is -2.474 but ensemble can reach to -2.598, is it normal?",
    "604417": "Ensemble is like Random Forest.  Random Forest with simple tree, it maybe lead great improve(usually +0.2? if binary auc).  Howerver, Random Forest with GBDT, it just little improve (usually +0.05? if binary auc.  it is called random seed average).\nIf you get nice score, ensemble won't work well because the model is already fitted data, I think.",
    "604201": "I think it is normal that improving over base models becomes harder when the base models get better.\n",
    "604328": "I think that it really depends on what techniques already been used to the ensemble, if there's many lacking, probably very much.",
    "604223": "LightGBM? Could you share the cross-validation result for each type?",
    "604211": ""
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