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  "id": 437360,
  "title": "Kaggle & Sleep:  I wish to hear lots of kagglers talk about their successes without attributing them to sleepless nights...",
  "url": "/competitions/child-mind-institute-detect-sleep-states/discussion/437360",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-09-06T13:44:44.388440100Z",
  "votes": 14,
  "comment_count": 8,
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  "content": "<p>After reading about the contest, I went to the website of \"Healthy Brain Network\" (the provider of the data mentioned in the acknowledgements). I just came across this quote on their website: \"<strong>There are so many people out there walking around suffering who can’t get the resources they need. It’s time to fight for them\"</strong>. and I got the idea to share something that could help a lot and even alter a lot in their lives --regardless of whether you have sleep issues or not--.   <br>\n\"Why we sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams\" by Matthew Walker, the world's foremost expert on sleep, is a masterwork that covers all aspects of sleep and <strong>what science has to say about it</strong>.<br>\nIf you don't enjoy reading a lot, he routinely conducts TV and youtube interviews (although what is revealed in the book goes far beyond what is stated on social media). However, that's ok too:  just write \"the world's No. 1 sleep expert\" (or his name) on youtube to find masterpieces:  Recently,&nbsp;in a nearly 2-hour-long interview that was posted on youtube around 5 or 6 months ago, he discussed some surprising facts regarding sleep that you might not know but that could have a beneficial impact on your life (he talked about caffeine too).     <br>\n<strong>Update</strong>: this is the link of the video : <a href=\"https://youtu.be/Us8n8VBQn_c?si=WWLlbinQ330WYMDF\" target=\"_blank\">https://youtu.be/Us8n8VBQn_c?si=WWLlbinQ330WYMDF</a><br>\n<strong>Kaggle &amp; Sleep</strong><br>\nIn many write-ups of top solutions or on social media, people link their success to sleepless nights or a lack of sleep.<br>\nI really wish to hear lots of kagglers talk about their successes without attributing them to sleepless nights…<br>\nIt's also inspiring, and kagglers have to lead by example: you can't help others get out of it (this competition, for example) while spending sleepless nights… It does not really make any sense.<br>\nIt's not about striking a balance between life, work, or anything else. When it comes to sleep, it's something entirely different: sleep is the spark of life..</p>",
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    {
      "id": "2426236",
      "postDate": "09/06/2023 13:44:44",
      "content": "<p>After reading about the contest, I went to the website of \"Healthy Brain Network\" (the provider of the data mentioned in the acknowledgements). I just came across this quote on their website: \"<strong>There are so many people out there walking around suffering who can’t get the resources they need. It’s time to fight for them\"</strong>. and I got the idea to share something that could help a lot and even alter a lot in their lives --regardless of whether you have sleep issues or not--.   <br>\n\"Why we sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams\" by Matthew Walker, the world's foremost expert on sleep, is a masterwork that covers all aspects of sleep and <strong>what science has to say about it</strong>.<br>\nIf you don't enjoy reading a lot, he routinely conducts TV and youtube interviews (although what is revealed in the book goes far beyond what is stated on social media). However, that's ok too:  just write \"the world's No. 1 sleep expert\" (or his name) on youtube to find masterpieces:  Recently,&nbsp;in a nearly 2-hour-long interview that was posted on youtube around 5 or 6 months ago, he discussed some surprising facts regarding sleep that you might not know but that could have a beneficial impact on your life (he talked about caffeine too).     <br>\n<strong>Update</strong>: this is the link of the video : <a href=\"https://youtu.be/Us8n8VBQn_c?si=WWLlbinQ330WYMDF\" target=\"_blank\">https://youtu.be/Us8n8VBQn_c?si=WWLlbinQ330WYMDF</a><br>\n<strong>Kaggle &amp; Sleep</strong><br>\nIn many write-ups of top solutions or on social media, people link their success to sleepless nights or a lack of sleep.<br>\nI really wish to hear lots of kagglers talk about their successes without attributing them to sleepless nights…<br>\nIt's also inspiring, and kagglers have to lead by example: you can't help others get out of it (this competition, for example) while spending sleepless nights… It does not really make any sense.<br>\nIt's not about striking a balance between life, work, or anything else. When it comes to sleep, it's something entirely different: sleep is the spark of life..</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "After reading about the contest, I went to the website of \"Healthy Brain Network\" (the provider of the data mentioned in the acknowledgements). I just came across this quote on their website: \"**There are so many people out there walking around suffering who can’t get the resources they need. It’s time to fight for them\"**. and I got the idea to share something that could help a lot and even alter a lot in their lives --regardless of whether you have sleep issues or not--.   \n\"Why we sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams\" by Matthew Walker, the world's foremost expert on sleep, is a masterwork that covers all aspects of sleep and **what science has to say about it**.\nIf you don't enjoy reading a lot, he routinely conducts TV and youtube interviews (although what is revealed in the book goes far beyond what is stated on social media). However, that's ok too:  just write \"the world's No. 1 sleep expert\" (or his name) on youtube to find masterpieces:  Recently, in a nearly 2-hour-long interview that was posted on youtube around 5 or 6 months ago, he discussed some surprising facts regarding sleep that you might not know but that could have a beneficial impact on your life (he talked about caffeine too).     \n**Update**: this is the link of the video : https://youtu.be/Us8n8VBQn_c?si=WWLlbinQ330WYMDF\n**Kaggle & Sleep**\nIn many write-ups of top solutions or on social media, people link their success to sleepless nights or a lack of sleep.\nI really wish to hear lots of kagglers talk about their successes without attributing them to sleepless nights...\nIt's also inspiring, and kagglers have to lead by example: you can't help others get out of it (this competition, for example) while spending sleepless nights... It does not really make any sense.\nIt's not about striking a balance between life, work, or anything else. When it comes to sleep, it's something entirely different: sleep is the spark of life..",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2426245",
      "postDate": "09/06/2023 13:51:08",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/abireltaief\" target=\"_blank\">@abireltaief</a> <br>\nAs a fitness trainer, I recommend one and all to sleep for at least 6 -8 hours daily. Kaggle/ work/ gym/ personal commitments/ family errands should always secondary to timely meals and sleep. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "abireltaief \nAs a fitness trainer, I recommend one and all to sleep for at least 6 -8 hours daily. Kaggle/ work/ gym/ personal commitments/ family errands should always secondary to timely meals and sleep.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2426249",
      "postDate": "09/06/2023 13:55:41",
      "content": "<p>Hello. My opinion on this question that need a systematic approach. It's how in sport. Evry day you have time for work, sleep and kaggle. I am not have big success in the kaggle, but i was have top learning speed when spending ~1 hour on kaggle every day.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hello. My opinion on this question that need a systematic approach. It's how in sport. Evry day you have time for work, sleep and kaggle. I am not have big success in the kaggle, but i was have top learning speed when spending ~1 hour on kaggle every day.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2426350",
      "postDate": "09/06/2023 15:03:48",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/rvadim\" target=\"_blank\">@rvadim</a> I appreciate this approach and follow this too. Kaggle is not a finite activity like a college degree/ school assignment. Kaggle is for life and should be amortized keeping all other priorities in balance. Health is our wealth and should be harbored and nurtured too <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/rvadim\" target=\"_blank\">@rvadim</a> </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "rvadim I appreciate this approach and follow this too. Kaggle is not a finite activity like a college degree/ school assignment. Kaggle is for life and should be amortized keeping all other priorities in balance. Health is our wealth and should be harbored and nurtured too @rvadim",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2426394",
      "postDate": "09/06/2023 15:24:43",
      "content": "<p>In my opinion, having a good Kaggle profile is good, but health should always come first. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In my opinion, having a good Kaggle profile is good, but health should always come first.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2426440",
      "postDate": "09/06/2023 15:54:08",
      "content": "<p>Balancing life is important. Sometimes you might work/study long hours, but you should also make sure to get enough rest and sleep. Having a good Kaggle profile is great, but one should not forget to take care of themselves. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Balancing life is important. Sometimes you might work/study long hours, but you should also make sure to get enough rest and sleep. Having a good Kaggle profile is great, but one should not forget to take care of themselves.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2426918",
      "postDate": "09/07/2023 00:13:29",
      "content": "<p>If you see it in every positive sample (winning a comp), then maybe thats a key feature to win and not something holding winners back…</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If you see it in every positive sample (winning a comp), then maybe thats a key feature to win and not something holding winners back...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2427204",
      "postDate": "09/07/2023 05:47:58",
      "content": "<p>Life is short, cant commit it to one thing only imo</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Life is short, cant commit it to one thing only imo",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2427256",
      "postDate": "09/07/2023 06:09:18",
      "content": "<p>The message behind my post isn't to confirm or deny that it's a key feature of winning. bacause the distribution of people who win varies, there are those who do it as a secondary activity, there are those who do it as part of their job, there are those who win with modest hardware, those who win and have access to unlimited hardware, etc., so if \"sleepless nights\" is the key feature of winning (although I think that's overstating it), in that case, Kaggle should make some revisions… because a system or a person can't claim to be helping others on the one hand (the goal of all these fantastic competitions) while putting others or him-her-theirself in the same difficulties that are being solved for others (difficulties in the short term: a deterioration of many aspects of life, and others that could appear in the long term or later: like dementia etc). Watch the video if you have time, but it's worth it. But I love Kaggle and the Kaggle community, and that's why I wrote this post, and I think there's room for improvement.  <br>\n<strong>Otherwise</strong>, I also posted it to highlight what science says about other features and factors that come into play that influence sleep activity (or explain sleeping activity) so far (roughly speaking, the purpose of the competition, but side science of course, not ml).</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The message behind my post isn't to confirm or deny that it's a key feature of winning. bacause the distribution of people who win varies, there are those who do it as a secondary activity, there are those who do it as part of their job, there are those who win with modest hardware, those who win and have access to unlimited hardware, etc., so if \"sleepless nights\" is the key feature of winning (although I think that's overstating it), in that case, Kaggle should make some revisions... because a system or a person can't claim to be helping others on the one hand (the goal of all these fantastic competitions) while putting others or him-her-theirself in the same difficulties that are being solved for others (difficulties in the short term: a deterioration of many aspects of life, and others that could appear in the long term or later: like dementia etc). Watch the video if you have time, but it's worth it. But I love Kaggle and the Kaggle community, and that's why I wrote this post, and I think there's room for improvement.  \n**Otherwise**, I also posted it to highlight what science says about other features and factors that come into play that influence sleep activity (or explain sleeping activity) so far (roughly speaking, the purpose of the competition, but side science of course, not ml).",
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      "id": 2426245,
      "author_name": "ravi20076",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/06/2023 13:51:08",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/abireltaief\" target=\"_blank\">@abireltaief</a> <br>\nAs a fitness trainer, I recommend one and all to sleep for at least 6 -8 hours daily. Kaggle/ work/ gym/ personal commitments/ family errands should always secondary to timely meals and sleep. </p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 2426249,
      "author_name": "rvadim",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/06/2023 13:55:41",
      "content": "<p>Hello. My opinion on this question that need a systematic approach. It's how in sport. Evry day you have time for work, sleep and kaggle. I am not have big success in the kaggle, but i was have top learning speed when spending ~1 hour on kaggle every day.</p>",
      "votes": null,
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          "id": 2426350,
          "author_name": "ravi20076",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "09/06/2023 15:03:48",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/rvadim\" target=\"_blank\">@rvadim</a> I appreciate this approach and follow this too. Kaggle is not a finite activity like a college degree/ school assignment. Kaggle is for life and should be amortized keeping all other priorities in balance. Health is our wealth and should be harbored and nurtured too <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/rvadim\" target=\"_blank\">@rvadim</a> </p>",
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    {
      "id": 2426394,
      "author_name": "indrasn0wal",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/06/2023 15:24:43",
      "content": "<p>In my opinion, having a good Kaggle profile is good, but health should always come first. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2426440,
      "author_name": "ddosad",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/06/2023 15:54:08",
      "content": "<p>Balancing life is important. Sometimes you might work/study long hours, but you should also make sure to get enough rest and sleep. Having a good Kaggle profile is great, but one should not forget to take care of themselves. </p>",
      "votes": null,
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      "id": 2426918,
      "author_name": "janmpia",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/07/2023 00:13:29",
      "content": "<p>If you see it in every positive sample (winning a comp), then maybe thats a key feature to win and not something holding winners back…</p>",
      "votes": null,
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          "id": 2427256,
          "author_name": "",
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          "post_date": "09/07/2023 06:09:18",
          "content": "<p>The message behind my post isn't to confirm or deny that it's a key feature of winning. bacause the distribution of people who win varies, there are those who do it as a secondary activity, there are those who do it as part of their job, there are those who win with modest hardware, those who win and have access to unlimited hardware, etc., so if \"sleepless nights\" is the key feature of winning (although I think that's overstating it), in that case, Kaggle should make some revisions… because a system or a person can't claim to be helping others on the one hand (the goal of all these fantastic competitions) while putting others or him-her-theirself in the same difficulties that are being solved for others (difficulties in the short term: a deterioration of many aspects of life, and others that could appear in the long term or later: like dementia etc). Watch the video if you have time, but it's worth it. But I love Kaggle and the Kaggle community, and that's why I wrote this post, and I think there's room for improvement.  <br>\n<strong>Otherwise</strong>, I also posted it to highlight what science says about other features and factors that come into play that influence sleep activity (or explain sleeping activity) so far (roughly speaking, the purpose of the competition, but side science of course, not ml).</p>",
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      "id": 2427204,
      "author_name": "botdeveloper11",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/07/2023 05:47:58",
      "content": "<p>Life is short, cant commit it to one thing only imo</p>",
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    "2426236": "After reading about the contest, I went to the website of \"Healthy Brain Network\" (the provider of the data mentioned in the acknowledgements). I just came across this quote on their website: \"**There are so many people out there walking around suffering who can’t get the resources they need. It’s time to fight for them\"**. and I got the idea to share something that could help a lot and even alter a lot in their lives --regardless of whether you have sleep issues or not--.   \n\"Why we sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams\" by Matthew Walker, the world's foremost expert on sleep, is a masterwork that covers all aspects of sleep and **what science has to say about it**.\nIf you don't enjoy reading a lot, he routinely conducts TV and youtube interviews (although what is revealed in the book goes far beyond what is stated on social media). However, that's ok too:  just write \"the world's No. 1 sleep expert\" (or his name) on youtube to find masterpieces:  Recently, in a nearly 2-hour-long interview that was posted on youtube around 5 or 6 months ago, he discussed some surprising facts regarding sleep that you might not know but that could have a beneficial impact on your life (he talked about caffeine too).     \n**Update**: this is the link of the video : https://youtu.be/Us8n8VBQn_c?si=WWLlbinQ330WYMDF\n**Kaggle & Sleep**\nIn many write-ups of top solutions or on social media, people link their success to sleepless nights or a lack of sleep.\nI really wish to hear lots of kagglers talk about their successes without attributing them to sleepless nights...\nIt's also inspiring, and kagglers have to lead by example: you can't help others get out of it (this competition, for example) while spending sleepless nights... It does not really make any sense.\nIt's not about striking a balance between life, work, or anything else. When it comes to sleep, it's something entirely different: sleep is the spark of life..",
    "2426245": "abireltaief \nAs a fitness trainer, I recommend one and all to sleep for at least 6 -8 hours daily. Kaggle/ work/ gym/ personal commitments/ family errands should always secondary to timely meals and sleep.",
    "2426249": "Hello. My opinion on this question that need a systematic approach. It's how in sport. Evry day you have time for work, sleep and kaggle. I am not have big success in the kaggle, but i was have top learning speed when spending ~1 hour on kaggle every day.",
    "2426350": "rvadim I appreciate this approach and follow this too. Kaggle is not a finite activity like a college degree/ school assignment. Kaggle is for life and should be amortized keeping all other priorities in balance. Health is our wealth and should be harbored and nurtured too @rvadim",
    "2426394": "In my opinion, having a good Kaggle profile is good, but health should always come first.",
    "2426440": "Balancing life is important. Sometimes you might work/study long hours, but you should also make sure to get enough rest and sleep. Having a good Kaggle profile is great, but one should not forget to take care of themselves.",
    "2426918": "If you see it in every positive sample (winning a comp), then maybe thats a key feature to win and not something holding winners back...",
    "2427204": "Life is short, cant commit it to one thing only imo",
    "2427256": "The message behind my post isn't to confirm or deny that it's a key feature of winning. bacause the distribution of people who win varies, there are those who do it as a secondary activity, there are those who do it as part of their job, there are those who win with modest hardware, those who win and have access to unlimited hardware, etc., so if \"sleepless nights\" is the key feature of winning (although I think that's overstating it), in that case, Kaggle should make some revisions... because a system or a person can't claim to be helping others on the one hand (the goal of all these fantastic competitions) while putting others or him-her-theirself in the same difficulties that are being solved for others (difficulties in the short term: a deterioration of many aspects of life, and others that could appear in the long term or later: like dementia etc). Watch the video if you have time, but it's worth it. But I love Kaggle and the Kaggle community, and that's why I wrote this post, and I think there's room for improvement.  \n**Otherwise**, I also posted it to highlight what science says about other features and factors that come into play that influence sleep activity (or explain sleeping activity) so far (roughly speaking, the purpose of the competition, but side science of course, not ml)."
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