{
  "id": 614670,
  "title": "test.csv doesn't contain tabular features?",
  "url": "/competitions/csiro-biomass/discussion/614670",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2025-11-05T15:05:59.998929700Z",
  "votes": null,
  "comment_count": 2,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I'm trying to ensure that my submission will run properly, but I see that test.csv doesn't contain tabular features like in train.csv? How are predictions supposed to be made then?</p>\n<p>sample from train.csv</p>\n<p>sample_id,image_path,Sampling_Date,State,Species,Pre_GSHH_NDVI,Height_Ave_cm,target_name,target\nID1011485656__Dry_Clover_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Clover_g,0.0\nID1011485656__Dry_Dead_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Dead_g,31.9984\nID1011485656__Dry_Green_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Green_g,16.2751\nID1011485656__Dry_Total_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Total_g,48.2735\nID1011485656__GDM_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,GDM_g,16.275 </p>\n<p>sample from test.csv</p>\n<p>sample_id,image_path,target_name\nID1001187975__Dry_Clover_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Clover_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Dead_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Dead_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Green_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Green_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Total_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Total_g\nID1001187975__GDM_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,GDM_g</p>\n<p>Or does the competition stipulate that predictions must be made from images only?</p>\n<p>EDIT:</p>\n<p>\"In this competition, we will privately re-run your selected Notebook Version with a hidden test set substituted into the competition dataset. We then extract your chosen Output File from the re-run and use that to determine your score\" </p>\n<p>Not sure I understand this part, so what is submission supposed to look like?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "3311684",
      "postDate": "11/05/2025 15:06:00",
      "content": "<p>I'm trying to ensure that my submission will run properly, but I see that test.csv doesn't contain tabular features like in train.csv? How are predictions supposed to be made then?</p>\n<p>sample from train.csv</p>\n<p>sample_id,image_path,Sampling_Date,State,Species,Pre_GSHH_NDVI,Height_Ave_cm,target_name,target\nID1011485656__Dry_Clover_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Clover_g,0.0\nID1011485656__Dry_Dead_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Dead_g,31.9984\nID1011485656__Dry_Green_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Green_g,16.2751\nID1011485656__Dry_Total_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Total_g,48.2735\nID1011485656__GDM_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,GDM_g,16.275 </p>\n<p>sample from test.csv</p>\n<p>sample_id,image_path,target_name\nID1001187975__Dry_Clover_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Clover_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Dead_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Dead_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Green_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Green_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Total_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Total_g\nID1001187975__GDM_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,GDM_g</p>\n<p>Or does the competition stipulate that predictions must be made from images only?</p>\n<p>EDIT:</p>\n<p>\"In this competition, we will privately re-run your selected Notebook Version with a hidden test set substituted into the competition dataset. We then extract your chosen Output File from the re-run and use that to determine your score\" </p>\n<p>Not sure I understand this part, so what is submission supposed to look like?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm trying to ensure that my submission will run properly, but I see that test.csv doesn't contain tabular features like in train.csv? How are predictions supposed to be made then?\n\nsample from train.csv\n\nsample_id,image_path,Sampling_Date,State,Species,Pre_GSHH_NDVI,Height_Ave_cm,target_name,target\nID1011485656__Dry_Clover_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Clover_g,0.0\nID1011485656__Dry_Dead_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Dead_g,31.9984\nID1011485656__Dry_Green_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Green_g,16.2751\nID1011485656__Dry_Total_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Total_g,48.2735\nID1011485656__GDM_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,GDM_g,16.275 \n\nsample from test.csv\n\nsample_id,image_path,target_name\nID1001187975__Dry_Clover_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Clover_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Dead_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Dead_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Green_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Green_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Total_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Total_g\nID1001187975__GDM_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,GDM_g\n\nOr does the competition stipulate that predictions must be made from images only?\n\nEDIT:\n\n\"In this competition, we will privately re-run your selected Notebook Version with a hidden test set substituted into the competition dataset. We then extract your chosen Output File from the re-run and use that to determine your score\" \n\nNot sure I understand this part, so what is submission supposed to look like?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3311699",
      "postDate": "11/05/2025 15:38:48",
      "content": "<p>Test will not contain the tabular features - only the images will be provided.  You may choose to build a model that can predict those features from the images - you can get a decent cv from a resnet model.  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Test will not contain the tabular features - only the images will be provided.  You may choose to build a model that can predict those features from the images - you can get a decent cv from a resnet model.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3311803",
      "postDate": "11/05/2025 20:06:52",
      "content": "<p>The submission should have the same format as sample_submission.csv.\nYou just need to perform inference on the provided test set, and when you submit your notebook, the test folder will be automatically replaced with the actual testing set by Kaggle.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The submission should have the same format as sample_submission.csv.\nYou just need to perform inference on the provided test set, and when you submit your notebook, the test folder will be automatically replaced with the actual testing set by Kaggle.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 3311699,
      "author_name": "pcjimmmy",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/05/2025 15:38:48",
      "content": "<p>Test will not contain the tabular features - only the images will be provided.  You may choose to build a model that can predict those features from the images - you can get a decent cv from a resnet model.  </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3311803,
      "author_name": "porpita",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/05/2025 20:06:52",
      "content": "<p>The submission should have the same format as sample_submission.csv.\nYou just need to perform inference on the provided test set, and when you submit your notebook, the test folder will be automatically replaced with the actual testing set by Kaggle.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "3311684": "I'm trying to ensure that my submission will run properly, but I see that test.csv doesn't contain tabular features like in train.csv? How are predictions supposed to be made then?\n\nsample from train.csv\n\nsample_id,image_path,Sampling_Date,State,Species,Pre_GSHH_NDVI,Height_Ave_cm,target_name,target\nID1011485656__Dry_Clover_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Clover_g,0.0\nID1011485656__Dry_Dead_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Dead_g,31.9984\nID1011485656__Dry_Green_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Green_g,16.2751\nID1011485656__Dry_Total_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,Dry_Total_g,48.2735\nID1011485656__GDM_g,train/ID1011485656.jpg,2015/9/4,Tas,Ryegrass_Clover,0.62,4.6667,GDM_g,16.275 \n\nsample from test.csv\n\nsample_id,image_path,target_name\nID1001187975__Dry_Clover_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Clover_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Dead_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Dead_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Green_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Green_g\nID1001187975__Dry_Total_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,Dry_Total_g\nID1001187975__GDM_g,test/ID1001187975.jpg,GDM_g\n\nOr does the competition stipulate that predictions must be made from images only?\n\nEDIT:\n\n\"In this competition, we will privately re-run your selected Notebook Version with a hidden test set substituted into the competition dataset. We then extract your chosen Output File from the re-run and use that to determine your score\" \n\nNot sure I understand this part, so what is submission supposed to look like?",
    "3311699": "Test will not contain the tabular features - only the images will be provided.  You may choose to build a model that can predict those features from the images - you can get a decent cv from a resnet model.",
    "3311803": "The submission should have the same format as sample_submission.csv.\nYou just need to perform inference on the provided test set, and when you submit your notebook, the test folder will be automatically replaced with the actual testing set by Kaggle."
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