{
  "id": 638570,
  "title": "Spot checking training data (continue)",
  "url": "/competitions/csiro-biomass/discussion/638570",
  "author_name": "Rustam Bazarbayev",
  "post_date": "2025-11-23T17:15:46.741000",
  "votes": 26,
  "comment_count": 7,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Hello, fellow Kagglers. During data discovery, I noticed that some training images might have incorrect annotations. Am I right? Please take a look at these images. They show green, but the corresponding column is either not measured or incorrectly annotated.\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F7e10b67fbdc55160a5305c79bb2f46c0%2FID1337107565_card.png?generation=1763918010155830&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F227e88a4efb91df5613330c85f81bfd6%2FID1403107574_card.png?generation=1763918032738964&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F76192a0d4e88ac7ecc2f0c9f65acc5d2%2FID1761544403_card.png?generation=1763918067979567&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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    {
      "id": 3345739,
      "postDate": "2025-11-23T17:15:46.743Z",
      "content": "<p>Hello, fellow Kagglers. During data discovery, I noticed that some training images might have incorrect annotations. Am I right? Please take a look at these images. They show green, but the corresponding column is either not measured or incorrectly annotated.\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F7e10b67fbdc55160a5305c79bb2f46c0%2FID1337107565_card.png?generation=1763918010155830&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F227e88a4efb91df5613330c85f81bfd6%2FID1403107574_card.png?generation=1763918032738964&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F76192a0d4e88ac7ecc2f0c9f65acc5d2%2FID1761544403_card.png?generation=1763918067979567&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hello, fellow Kagglers. During data discovery, I noticed that some training images might have incorrect annotations. Am I right? Please take a look at these images. They show green, but the corresponding column is either not measured or incorrectly annotated.\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F7e10b67fbdc55160a5305c79bb2f46c0%2FID1337107565_card.png?generation=1763918010155830&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F227e88a4efb91df5613330c85f81bfd6%2FID1403107574_card.png?generation=1763918032738964&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F76192a0d4e88ac7ecc2f0c9f65acc5d2%2FID1761544403_card.png?generation=1763918067979567&alt=media)\n",
      "votes": 26
    },
    {
      "id": 3346713,
      "postDate": "2025-11-24T15:49:55.387Z",
      "content": "<p>There is no clover in these images - unless I misunderstood 🤔</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "There is no clover in these images - unless I misunderstood 🤔",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3346732,
          "postDate": "2025-11-24T16:04:09.580Z",
          "content": "<p>If I understood correctly, some images contain both clover and green, but the labeling shows only clover or only green.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "If I understood correctly, some images contain both clover and green, but the labeling shows only clover or only green.",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3346741,
              "postDate": "2025-11-24T16:08:13.787Z",
              "content": "<p>The last image contains nowhere near 32g of Clover</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "The last image contains nowhere near 32g of Clover",
              "votes": 1
            },
            {
              "id": 3347081,
              "postDate": "2025-11-24T23:16:09.823Z",
              "content": "<p>Is it because they are digging out the vegetation? Have you ever tried digging out clover roots? They can be very dense. Maybe that's where the extra weight is coming from?</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Is it because they are digging out the vegetation? Have you ever tried digging out clover roots? They can be very dense. Maybe that's where the extra weight is coming from?"
            },
            {
              "id": 3347086,
              "postDate": "2025-11-24T23:33:16.340Z",
              "content": "<p>I may be misunderstanding <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.22916v1\" target=\"_blank\">the paper on the dataset</a>, but I have the impression there's no digging happening.  From section 3.1:  \"Following nondestructive measurements, all vegetation within the quadrat was harvested by cutting to ground level using electric clippers.\"</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I may be misunderstanding [the paper on the dataset](https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.22916v1), but I have the impression there's no digging happening.  From section 3.1:  \"Following nondestructive measurements, all vegetation within the quadrat was harvested by cutting to ground level using electric clippers.\""
            },
            {
              "id": 3347088,
              "postDate": "2025-11-24T23:39:31.270Z",
              "content": "<p>You are right that they did not say digging, but \"cutting to ground level using electric clippers\" is also very descriptive while also not being descriptive enough for me to understand what they actually did.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "You are right that they did not say digging, but \"cutting to ground level using electric clippers\" is also very descriptive while also not being descriptive enough for me to understand what they actually did."
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3351530,
      "postDate": "2025-11-28T13:33:13.240Z",
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 3346713,
      "author_name": "Geremie Yeo",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-11-24T15:49:55.387000",
      "content": "<p>There is no clover in these images - unless I misunderstood 🤔</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3346732,
          "author_name": "Rustam Bazarbayev",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-11-24T16:04:09.580000",
          "content": "<p>If I understood correctly, some images contain both clover and green, but the labeling shows only clover or only green.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3346741,
              "author_name": "Geremie Yeo",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-11-24T16:08:13.787000",
              "content": "<p>The last image contains nowhere near 32g of Clover</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3347081,
              "author_name": "JJ",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-11-24T23:16:09.823000",
              "content": "<p>Is it because they are digging out the vegetation? Have you ever tried digging out clover roots? They can be very dense. Maybe that's where the extra weight is coming from?</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3347086,
              "author_name": "particlebbq",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-11-24T23:33:16.340000",
              "content": "<p>I may be misunderstanding <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.22916v1\" target=\"_blank\">the paper on the dataset</a>, but I have the impression there's no digging happening.  From section 3.1:  \"Following nondestructive measurements, all vegetation within the quadrat was harvested by cutting to ground level using electric clippers.\"</p>",
              "votes": 0,
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            },
            {
              "id": 3347088,
              "author_name": "JJ",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-11-24T23:39:31.270000",
              "content": "<p>You are right that they did not say digging, but \"cutting to ground level using electric clippers\" is also very descriptive while also not being descriptive enough for me to understand what they actually did.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3351530,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-11-28T13:33:13.240000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 0,
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    "3345739": "Hello, fellow Kagglers. During data discovery, I noticed that some training images might have incorrect annotations. Am I right? Please take a look at these images. They show green, but the corresponding column is either not measured or incorrectly annotated.\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F7e10b67fbdc55160a5305c79bb2f46c0%2FID1337107565_card.png?generation=1763918010155830&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F227e88a4efb91df5613330c85f81bfd6%2FID1403107574_card.png?generation=1763918032738964&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5591682%2F76192a0d4e88ac7ecc2f0c9f65acc5d2%2FID1761544403_card.png?generation=1763918067979567&alt=media)\n",
    "3346713": "There is no clover in these images - unless I misunderstood 🤔",
    "3351530": ""
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