{
  "id": 54743,
  "title": "Would the medals be updated?",
  "url": "/competitions/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/54743",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2018-04-17T09:02:33.662771500Z",
  "votes": 3,
  "comment_count": 11,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>The Kaggle Two Stage FAQs says:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n  <p>Will the number of participants change in the second stage? Will I get a medal? Will I get points?\n  Yes, the number of participants will be smaller since some people won't submit in the second stage. For the purposes of medals and points calculations, we will use the number of participants in the first stage to calculate points and medals.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>The above is not reflected yet on the private leaderboard. Would it be updated? \n(Just excited to win our first medal on Kaggle!)</p>",
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    {
      "id": "315544",
      "postDate": "04/17/2018 09:02:33",
      "content": "<p>The Kaggle Two Stage FAQs says:</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n  <p>Will the number of participants change in the second stage? Will I get a medal? Will I get points?\n  Yes, the number of participants will be smaller since some people won't submit in the second stage. For the purposes of medals and points calculations, we will use the number of participants in the first stage to calculate points and medals.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>The above is not reflected yet on the private leaderboard. Would it be updated? \n(Just excited to win our first medal on Kaggle!)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The Kaggle Two Stage FAQs says:\n&gt; Will the number of participants change in the second stage? Will I get a medal? Will I get points?\nYes, the number of participants will be smaller since some people won't submit in the second stage. For the purposes of medals and points calculations, we will use the number of participants in the first stage to calculate points and medals.\n\nThe above is not reflected yet on the private leaderboard. Would it be updated? \n(Just excited to win our first medal on Kaggle!)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317680",
      "postDate": "04/22/2018 08:12:18",
      "content": "<p>Can one of the admin please answer this. Since no specific rules were there for this competition regarding the medals, shouldn't the medals be awarder according to the official Kaggle rules (stated above)?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Can one of the admin please answer this. Since no specific rules were there for this competition regarding the medals, shouldn't the medals be awarder according to the official Kaggle rules (stated above)?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318323",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 16:00:44",
      "content": "<p>from my experience on 2 stages competition, Kaggle will consider this one as a 250-999 teams (which seems not to follow the FAQ once again) so there won't be more medals unless they reinstate 700 people to make it a 1000+ participants.</p>\n\n<p>Edit: if the removal continues, everybody left is going to get a medal...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "from my experience on 2 stages competition, Kaggle will consider this one as a 250-999 teams (which seems not to follow the FAQ once again) so there won't be more medals unless they reinstate 700 people to make it a 1000+ participants.\n\nEdit: if the removal continues, everybody left is going to get a medal...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318352",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 16:47:49",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/eagle4\">@eagle4</a>, this is not necessarily true, if you look at the recent competition Web Traffic Time Series Forecasting which was a two-stage competition. There were 1095 teams and only 351 teams were left at the 2nd stage, see <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/web-traffic-time-series-forecasting/leaderboard\">private leaderboard</a> however, top 10% of 1095 teams got medals. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "eagle4, this is not necessarily true, if you look at the recent competition Web Traffic Time Series Forecasting which was a two-stage competition. There were 1095 teams and only 351 teams were left at the 2nd stage, see [private leaderboard][1] however, top 10% of 1095 teams got medals. \n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/web-traffic-time-series-forecasting/leaderboard",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318375",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 17:41:46",
      "content": "<p>@Nicole, I was referring to my first  2 stage competition \"The Nature Conservancy Fisheries Monitoring\" last year and only top 100 got a medal as far as I know: 389 teams on stage 2 after 2200 on stage 1...  weird...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Nicole, I was referring to my first  2 stage competition \"The Nature Conservancy Fisheries Monitoring\" last year and only top 100 got a medal as far as I know: 389 teams on stage 2 after 2200 on stage 1...  weird...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318395",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 18:37:33",
      "content": "<p>Hi @Nicole, It seems that they considered the final Web Traffic competition leadership as a 250-999 team, otherwise, there would be 12 gold medals (10+0.2%*1095). The fact is that there are only 10 gold medals. Besides, the top 10% of 1095 is 109 not 100. I guess the confusion is because the team number happened to be 1095 (~1000). Correct me if I'm wrong. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @Nicole, It seems that they considered the final Web Traffic competition leadership as a 250-999 team, otherwise, there would be 12 gold medals (10+0.2%*1095). The fact is that there are only 10 gold medals. Besides, the top 10% of 1095 is 109 not 100. I guess the confusion is because the team number happened to be 1095 (~1000). Correct me if I'm wrong.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318406",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 19:11:52",
      "content": "<p>@Tarracotta it is a bug in kaggle system. If you look at somebody in Web Traffic competition for example from 12 place <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/pandee\">https://www.kaggle.com/pandee</a> you will see that they have their gold medals. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Tarracotta it is a bug in kaggle system. If you look at somebody in Web Traffic competition for example from 12 place https://www.kaggle.com/pandee you will see that they have their gold medals.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318408",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 19:16:38",
      "content": "<p>@Alex, Thanks for the note. Good to hear that.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Alex, Thanks for the note. Good to hear that.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318409",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 19:17:41",
      "content": "<p>@Terracotta I did check the number of gold medals and that of bronze medals before answering <a href=\"/eagle4\">@eagle4</a>'s question :) you can check the 11th team and the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/pandee\">12th team</a>, they got a gold medal as well, so you're right, there were 12 gold medals. Besides, check out the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/schrodingcat22\">109th team </a> he got a bronze medal, top 10% of 1095 teams.</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"/eagle4\">@eagle4</a>, understood. I only checked the very recent two-stage competition. Maybe the rules were different back then. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Terracotta I did check the number of gold medals and that of bronze medals before answering @eagle4's question :) you can check the 11th team and the [12th team][2], they got a gold medal as well, so you're right, there were 12 gold medals. Besides, check out the [109th team ][1] he got a bronze medal, top 10% of 1095 teams.\n\n@eagle4, understood. I only checked the very recent two-stage competition. Maybe the rules were different back then. \n\n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/schrodingcat22\n  [2]: https://www.kaggle.com/pandee",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318411",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 19:18:55",
      "content": "<p>@Alex you beat me to it :) was in the middle of typing. Thanks</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Alex you beat me to it :) was in the middle of typing. Thanks",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318412",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 19:19:51",
      "content": "<p>@Nicole, Thanks. I see now. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Nicole, Thanks. I see now.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "318422",
      "postDate": "04/23/2018 20:07:15",
      "content": "<p>This is my first comment!!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This is my first comment!!",
      "votes": null
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 317680,
      "author_name": "burhanusm",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/22/2018 08:12:18",
      "content": "<p>Can one of the admin please answer this. Since no specific rules were there for this competition regarding the medals, shouldn't the medals be awarder according to the official Kaggle rules (stated above)?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 318323,
      "author_name": "chabir",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/23/2018 16:00:44",
      "content": "<p>from my experience on 2 stages competition, Kaggle will consider this one as a 250-999 teams (which seems not to follow the FAQ once again) so there won't be more medals unless they reinstate 700 people to make it a 1000+ participants.</p>\n\n<p>Edit: if the removal continues, everybody left is going to get a medal...</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 318352,
          "author_name": "nicolefinnie",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 16:47:49",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/eagle4\">@eagle4</a>, this is not necessarily true, if you look at the recent competition Web Traffic Time Series Forecasting which was a two-stage competition. There were 1095 teams and only 351 teams were left at the 2nd stage, see <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/web-traffic-time-series-forecasting/leaderboard\">private leaderboard</a> however, top 10% of 1095 teams got medals. </p>",
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          "id": 318375,
          "author_name": "chabir",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 17:41:46",
          "content": "<p>@Nicole, I was referring to my first  2 stage competition \"The Nature Conservancy Fisheries Monitoring\" last year and only top 100 got a medal as far as I know: 389 teams on stage 2 after 2200 on stage 1...  weird...</p>",
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        {
          "id": 318395,
          "author_name": "ybwu01",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 18:37:33",
          "content": "<p>Hi @Nicole, It seems that they considered the final Web Traffic competition leadership as a 250-999 team, otherwise, there would be 12 gold medals (10+0.2%*1095). The fact is that there are only 10 gold medals. Besides, the top 10% of 1095 is 109 not 100. I guess the confusion is because the team number happened to be 1095 (~1000). Correct me if I'm wrong. </p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 318406,
          "author_name": "shvetsiya",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 19:11:52",
          "content": "<p>@Tarracotta it is a bug in kaggle system. If you look at somebody in Web Traffic competition for example from 12 place <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/pandee\">https://www.kaggle.com/pandee</a> you will see that they have their gold medals. </p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 318408,
          "author_name": "ybwu01",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 19:16:38",
          "content": "<p>@Alex, Thanks for the note. Good to hear that.</p>",
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        {
          "id": 318409,
          "author_name": "nicolefinnie",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 19:17:41",
          "content": "<p>@Terracotta I did check the number of gold medals and that of bronze medals before answering <a href=\"/eagle4\">@eagle4</a>'s question :) you can check the 11th team and the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/pandee\">12th team</a>, they got a gold medal as well, so you're right, there were 12 gold medals. Besides, check out the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/schrodingcat22\">109th team </a> he got a bronze medal, top 10% of 1095 teams.</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"/eagle4\">@eagle4</a>, understood. I only checked the very recent two-stage competition. Maybe the rules were different back then. </p>",
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          "id": 318411,
          "author_name": "nicolefinnie",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 19:18:55",
          "content": "<p>@Alex you beat me to it :) was in the middle of typing. Thanks</p>",
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        {
          "id": 318412,
          "author_name": "ybwu01",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2018 19:19:51",
          "content": "<p>@Nicole, Thanks. I see now. </p>",
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      "id": 318422,
      "author_name": "mtodisco10",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/23/2018 20:07:15",
      "content": "<p>This is my first comment!!</p>",
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    "315544": "The Kaggle Two Stage FAQs says:\n&gt; Will the number of participants change in the second stage? Will I get a medal? Will I get points?\nYes, the number of participants will be smaller since some people won't submit in the second stage. For the purposes of medals and points calculations, we will use the number of participants in the first stage to calculate points and medals.\n\nThe above is not reflected yet on the private leaderboard. Would it be updated? \n(Just excited to win our first medal on Kaggle!)",
    "317680": "Can one of the admin please answer this. Since no specific rules were there for this competition regarding the medals, shouldn't the medals be awarder according to the official Kaggle rules (stated above)?",
    "318323": "from my experience on 2 stages competition, Kaggle will consider this one as a 250-999 teams (which seems not to follow the FAQ once again) so there won't be more medals unless they reinstate 700 people to make it a 1000+ participants.\n\nEdit: if the removal continues, everybody left is going to get a medal...",
    "318352": "eagle4, this is not necessarily true, if you look at the recent competition Web Traffic Time Series Forecasting which was a two-stage competition. There were 1095 teams and only 351 teams were left at the 2nd stage, see [private leaderboard][1] however, top 10% of 1095 teams got medals. \n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/web-traffic-time-series-forecasting/leaderboard",
    "318375": "Nicole, I was referring to my first  2 stage competition \"The Nature Conservancy Fisheries Monitoring\" last year and only top 100 got a medal as far as I know: 389 teams on stage 2 after 2200 on stage 1...  weird...",
    "318395": "Hi @Nicole, It seems that they considered the final Web Traffic competition leadership as a 250-999 team, otherwise, there would be 12 gold medals (10+0.2%*1095). The fact is that there are only 10 gold medals. Besides, the top 10% of 1095 is 109 not 100. I guess the confusion is because the team number happened to be 1095 (~1000). Correct me if I'm wrong.",
    "318406": "Tarracotta it is a bug in kaggle system. If you look at somebody in Web Traffic competition for example from 12 place https://www.kaggle.com/pandee you will see that they have their gold medals.",
    "318408": "Alex, Thanks for the note. Good to hear that.",
    "318409": "Terracotta I did check the number of gold medals and that of bronze medals before answering @eagle4's question :) you can check the 11th team and the [12th team][2], they got a gold medal as well, so you're right, there were 12 gold medals. Besides, check out the [109th team ][1] he got a bronze medal, top 10% of 1095 teams.\n\n@eagle4, understood. I only checked the very recent two-stage competition. Maybe the rules were different back then. \n\n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/schrodingcat22\n  [2]: https://www.kaggle.com/pandee",
    "318411": "Alex you beat me to it :) was in the middle of typing. Thanks",
    "318412": "Nicole, Thanks. I see now.",
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