{
  "id": 55012,
  "title": "Stage2 LB: Only 364 out of 816 teams on the LB as of 04/20/2018 ",
  "url": "/competitions/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55012",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2018-04-21T02:55:50.171036100Z",
  "votes": 9,
  "comment_count": 10,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>To whom it may concern, </p>\n\n<p>I noticed last week that 816 teams submitted solutions for Stage 2, however, the LB today only shows the results for 364 teams. </p>\n\n<p>Is this an error? </p>\n\n<p>If not, it would mean that 452 teams did not submit a model for participation in Stage 2 of the 2018 Data Science Bowl. </p>\n\n<p>Noteworthy, I have submitted my model in order to participate in Stage 2 before the due date of April 11th 2018. Please see attached. </p>\n\n<p>Thank you in advance for your time and feedback. </p>\n\n<p>Best Regards, \nTEAMPDITI </p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "317231",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 02:55:50",
      "content": "<p>To whom it may concern, </p>\n\n<p>I noticed last week that 816 teams submitted solutions for Stage 2, however, the LB today only shows the results for 364 teams. </p>\n\n<p>Is this an error? </p>\n\n<p>If not, it would mean that 452 teams did not submit a model for participation in Stage 2 of the 2018 Data Science Bowl. </p>\n\n<p>Noteworthy, I have submitted my model in order to participate in Stage 2 before the due date of April 11th 2018. Please see attached. </p>\n\n<p>Thank you in advance for your time and feedback. </p>\n\n<p>Best Regards, \nTEAMPDITI </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "To whom it may concern, \n\nI noticed last week that 816 teams submitted solutions for Stage 2, however, the LB today only shows the results for 364 teams. \n\nIs this an error? \n\nIf not, it would mean that 452 teams did not submit a model for participation in Stage 2 of the 2018 Data Science Bowl. \n\nNoteworthy, I have submitted my model in order to participate in Stage 2 before the due date of April 11th 2018. Please see attached. \n\nThank you in advance for your time and feedback. \n\nBest Regards, \nTEAMPDITI",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317236",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 03:06:40",
      "content": "<p>my lb was canceled and confused.</p>\n\n<p>why change the rule of submit model and didn't inform us immediately and formally? We didnt know about the rule of \"We have removed any teams from the leaderboard that either uploaded a model after the deadline or did not upload a model.\" At the very start, we just know that :</p>\n\n<p>:Will I still be on the leaderboard if I don't upload a model but do submit in the second stage? Yes. However, if you do not upload a model and finish in a prize position, your team will be removed from the competition standings entirely.</p>\n\n<p>prize position means top5 in this competition.</p>\n\n<p>I think kaggle and sponsor should give us an explanation and solution to solve this misleading.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "my lb was canceled and confused.\n\nwhy change the rule of submit model and didn't inform us immediately and formally? We didnt know about the rule of \"We have removed any teams from the leaderboard that either uploaded a model after the deadline or did not upload a model.\" At the very start, we just know that :\n\n:Will I still be on the leaderboard if I don't upload a model but do submit in the second stage? Yes. However, if you do not upload a model and finish in a prize position, your team will be removed from the competition standings entirely.\n\nprize position means top5 in this competition.\n\nI think kaggle and sponsor should give us an explanation and solution to solve this misleading.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317241",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 03:21:23",
      "content": "<p>There are 452 teams got removed. What happened? I got removed too. But i didn't recieve any messages. Can someone explain why this is?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "There are 452 teams got removed. What happened? I got removed too. But i didn't recieve any messages. Can someone explain why this is?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317246",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 03:46:52",
      "content": "<p>Another interesting note: </p>\n\n<p>On 04/10/2018, the status of the 2018 Data Science Bowl was the following: </p>\n\n<h1>Teams = 3750</h1>\n\n<h1>Competitors = 4,490</h1>\n\n<h1>Entries = 58,100</h1>\n\n<p>Assuming 10 hours of work per submission, that is equivalent to:</p>\n\n<p>581,000 hours </p>\n\n<p>581,000 hours/ 24 hours per day = 24,208 days </p>\n\n<p>24,208 days / 365 days per year = 66 years of data science research </p>\n\n<p>Accordingly, we can estimate that each team put in (581,000 hours/ 3750 teams) approximately 150 hours of research. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Another interesting note: \n\nOn 04/10/2018, the status of the 2018 Data Science Bowl was the following: \n\n# Teams = 3750 \n# Competitors = 4,490 \n# Entries = 58,100 \n\nAssuming 10 hours of work per submission, that is equivalent to:\n\n581,000 hours \n\n581,000 hours/ 24 hours per day = 24,208 days \n\n24,208 days / 365 days per year = 66 years of data science research \n\nAccordingly, we can estimate that each team put in (581,000 hours/ 3750 teams) approximately 150 hours of research.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317247",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 03:50:06",
      "content": "<p>I speed six weeks doing this competition. It's too disappointing</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I speed six weeks doing this competition. It's too disappointing",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317299",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 06:31:27",
      "content": "<p>Same as you, I submitted my model before the ddl of stage 1, but still canceled, which really make me confused.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Same as you, I submitted my model before the ddl of stage 1, but still canceled, which really make me confused.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317302",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 06:55:59",
      "content": "<p>I am also confused. I had uploaded my code before the deadline. and even listed in stage 2 public Leader board. surprised to see entry missing on LB now :(</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am also confused. I had uploaded my code before the deadline. and even listed in stage 2 public Leader board. surprised to see entry missing on LB now :(",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317303",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 06:56:45",
      "content": "<p>More than half of the field got removed.   Even some people who had done all their work in kernels on Kaggle got removed.</p>\n\n<p>I uploaded my model (I might have missed midnight - but I'm not so sure now).  The next day I uploaded the final version, containing the added CSV reader for the stage 2 data and a bugfix for my csv writer - no model or hyperparameter changes.  I assume many other people did the same.  Because \"non-scientific changes are fine\".</p>\n\n<p>I suspect they used the last upload time, rather than the actual model arrival time, and a ton of innocent people got hurt by it. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "More than half of the field got removed.   Even some people who had done all their work in kernels on Kaggle got removed.\n\nI uploaded my model (I might have missed midnight - but I'm not so sure now).  The next day I uploaded the final version, containing the added CSV reader for the stage 2 data and a bugfix for my csv writer - no model or hyperparameter changes.  I assume many other people did the same.  Because \"non-scientific changes are fine\".\n\nI suspect they used the last upload time, rather than the actual model arrival time, and a ton of innocent people got hurt by it.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317306",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 07:05:37",
      "content": "<p>This was my first competition, hence I did not know it was compulsory to submit the model. Kaggle could have informed me.Can I submit the model with the CSV file through late submission?Or is there any other way?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This was my first competition, hence I did not know it was compulsory to submit the model. Kaggle could have informed me.Can I submit the model with the CSV file through late submission?Or is there any other way?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317308",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 07:24:47",
      "content": "<p>I also be removed because i do not upload a model, I am disappoint about kagge that you don't let us know the changes of the rules. When i join in the competition, the rule says that i can stand in the LB if i make a submission. I am not cheating in the competition and i wish that kagge can let me back to the LB.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I also be removed because i do not upload a model, I am disappoint about kagge that you don't let us know the changes of the rules. When i join in the competition, the rule says that i can stand in the LB if i make a submission. I am not cheating in the competition and i wish that kagge can let me back to the LB.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "317324",
      "postDate": "04/21/2018 08:05:41",
      "content": "<p>I have opened an appeal thread here <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I have opened an appeal thread here [https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034][1]\n\n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 317236,
      "author_name": "forrestchou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 03:06:40",
      "content": "<p>my lb was canceled and confused.</p>\n\n<p>why change the rule of submit model and didn't inform us immediately and formally? We didnt know about the rule of \"We have removed any teams from the leaderboard that either uploaded a model after the deadline or did not upload a model.\" At the very start, we just know that :</p>\n\n<p>:Will I still be on the leaderboard if I don't upload a model but do submit in the second stage? Yes. However, if you do not upload a model and finish in a prize position, your team will be removed from the competition standings entirely.</p>\n\n<p>prize position means top5 in this competition.</p>\n\n<p>I think kaggle and sponsor should give us an explanation and solution to solve this misleading.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 317306,
          "author_name": "gremlin97",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/21/2018 07:05:37",
          "content": "<p>This was my first competition, hence I did not know it was compulsory to submit the model. Kaggle could have informed me.Can I submit the model with the CSV file through late submission?Or is there any other way?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 317241,
      "author_name": "mdlszhengli",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 03:21:23",
      "content": "<p>There are 452 teams got removed. What happened? I got removed too. But i didn't recieve any messages. Can someone explain why this is?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 317246,
      "author_name": "teampditi",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 03:46:52",
      "content": "<p>Another interesting note: </p>\n\n<p>On 04/10/2018, the status of the 2018 Data Science Bowl was the following: </p>\n\n<h1>Teams = 3750</h1>\n\n<h1>Competitors = 4,490</h1>\n\n<h1>Entries = 58,100</h1>\n\n<p>Assuming 10 hours of work per submission, that is equivalent to:</p>\n\n<p>581,000 hours </p>\n\n<p>581,000 hours/ 24 hours per day = 24,208 days </p>\n\n<p>24,208 days / 365 days per year = 66 years of data science research </p>\n\n<p>Accordingly, we can estimate that each team put in (581,000 hours/ 3750 teams) approximately 150 hours of research. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 317247,
          "author_name": "mdlszhengli",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/21/2018 03:50:06",
          "content": "<p>I speed six weeks doing this competition. It's too disappointing</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 317299,
      "author_name": "dexterlei",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 06:31:27",
      "content": "<p>Same as you, I submitted my model before the ddl of stage 1, but still canceled, which really make me confused.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 317302,
      "author_name": "reachkishore",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 06:55:59",
      "content": "<p>I am also confused. I had uploaded my code before the deadline. and even listed in stage 2 public Leader board. surprised to see entry missing on LB now :(</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 317303,
      "author_name": "snorkle",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 06:56:45",
      "content": "<p>More than half of the field got removed.   Even some people who had done all their work in kernels on Kaggle got removed.</p>\n\n<p>I uploaded my model (I might have missed midnight - but I'm not so sure now).  The next day I uploaded the final version, containing the added CSV reader for the stage 2 data and a bugfix for my csv writer - no model or hyperparameter changes.  I assume many other people did the same.  Because \"non-scientific changes are fine\".</p>\n\n<p>I suspect they used the last upload time, rather than the actual model arrival time, and a ton of innocent people got hurt by it. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 317308,
      "author_name": "zjj421",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 07:24:47",
      "content": "<p>I also be removed because i do not upload a model, I am disappoint about kagge that you don't let us know the changes of the rules. When i join in the competition, the rule says that i can stand in the LB if i make a submission. I am not cheating in the competition and i wish that kagge can let me back to the LB.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 317324,
      "author_name": "agavranis",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/21/2018 08:05:41",
      "content": "<p>I have opened an appeal thread here <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034</a></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
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    "317231": "To whom it may concern, \n\nI noticed last week that 816 teams submitted solutions for Stage 2, however, the LB today only shows the results for 364 teams. \n\nIs this an error? \n\nIf not, it would mean that 452 teams did not submit a model for participation in Stage 2 of the 2018 Data Science Bowl. \n\nNoteworthy, I have submitted my model in order to participate in Stage 2 before the due date of April 11th 2018. Please see attached. \n\nThank you in advance for your time and feedback. \n\nBest Regards, \nTEAMPDITI",
    "317236": "my lb was canceled and confused.\n\nwhy change the rule of submit model and didn't inform us immediately and formally? We didnt know about the rule of \"We have removed any teams from the leaderboard that either uploaded a model after the deadline or did not upload a model.\" At the very start, we just know that :\n\n:Will I still be on the leaderboard if I don't upload a model but do submit in the second stage? Yes. However, if you do not upload a model and finish in a prize position, your team will be removed from the competition standings entirely.\n\nprize position means top5 in this competition.\n\nI think kaggle and sponsor should give us an explanation and solution to solve this misleading.",
    "317241": "There are 452 teams got removed. What happened? I got removed too. But i didn't recieve any messages. Can someone explain why this is?",
    "317246": "Another interesting note: \n\nOn 04/10/2018, the status of the 2018 Data Science Bowl was the following: \n\n# Teams = 3750 \n# Competitors = 4,490 \n# Entries = 58,100 \n\nAssuming 10 hours of work per submission, that is equivalent to:\n\n581,000 hours \n\n581,000 hours/ 24 hours per day = 24,208 days \n\n24,208 days / 365 days per year = 66 years of data science research \n\nAccordingly, we can estimate that each team put in (581,000 hours/ 3750 teams) approximately 150 hours of research.",
    "317247": "I speed six weeks doing this competition. It's too disappointing",
    "317299": "Same as you, I submitted my model before the ddl of stage 1, but still canceled, which really make me confused.",
    "317302": "I am also confused. I had uploaded my code before the deadline. and even listed in stage 2 public Leader board. surprised to see entry missing on LB now :(",
    "317303": "More than half of the field got removed.   Even some people who had done all their work in kernels on Kaggle got removed.\n\nI uploaded my model (I might have missed midnight - but I'm not so sure now).  The next day I uploaded the final version, containing the added CSV reader for the stage 2 data and a bugfix for my csv writer - no model or hyperparameter changes.  I assume many other people did the same.  Because \"non-scientific changes are fine\".\n\nI suspect they used the last upload time, rather than the actual model arrival time, and a ton of innocent people got hurt by it.",
    "317306": "This was my first competition, hence I did not know it was compulsory to submit the model. Kaggle could have informed me.Can I submit the model with the CSV file through late submission?Or is there any other way?",
    "317308": "I also be removed because i do not upload a model, I am disappoint about kagge that you don't let us know the changes of the rules. When i join in the competition, the rule says that i can stand in the LB if i make a submission. I am not cheating in the competition and i wish that kagge can let me back to the LB.",
    "317324": "I have opened an appeal thread here [https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034][1]\n\n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/data-science-bowl-2018/discussion/55034"
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