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  "id": 11359,
  "title": "Are open source software like caffe and convnet2 allowed to use?",
  "url": "/competitions/datasciencebowl/discussion/11359",
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  "post_date": "2014-12-26T06:13:09.787Z",
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  "content": "<p>I saw the limitation. I wonder if convnet2 and caffe are forbidden.</p>\n\n<p>Thanks,</p>\n<p>Xudong</p>",
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      "id": "61894",
      "postDate": "12/26/2014 06:13:09",
      "content": "<p>I saw the limitation. I wonder if convnet2 and caffe are forbidden.</p>\n\n<p>Thanks,</p>\n<p>Xudong</p>",
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    {
      "id": "62776",
      "postDate": "01/16/2015 04:07:40",
      "content": "<p>I don't see any reason why they should be forbidden. Could you please elaborate your concern?</p>",
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      "id": "62780",
      "postDate": "01/16/2015 09:13:42",
      "content": "<p>I simply want to confirm that I start with the right/allowed tool for this competition.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "id": "62784",
      "postDate": "01/16/2015 10:53:44",
      "content": "<p>using the software is fine, but using pre-trained caffe networks violates the &quot;no external data&quot; rule.</p>",
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      "postDate": "01/16/2015 10:55:12",
      "content": "<p>[quote=emolson;62784]</p>\n<p>using the software is fine, but using pre-trained caffe networks violates the &quot;no external data&quot; rule.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>I dont think it does. Maybe some admin can clarify this..</p>",
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      "id": "62787",
      "postDate": "01/16/2015 11:27:07",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Abhishek;62785]</p>\n<p>[quote=emolson;62784]</p>\n<p>using the software is fine, but using pre-trained caffe networks violates the &quot;no external data&quot; rule.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>I dont think it does. Maybe some admin can clarify this..</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>[quote=William Cukierski;60493]</p>\n<p>[quote=Gil Levi;60463]</p>\n<p>What about using outside DATA that is unrelated to the contest, such as the ImageNet Large Scale Visual Recognition Challenge?</p>\n<p>http://image-net.org/challenges/LSVRC/2012/index</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>This would still be external data, which is not allowed.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Since pretrained caffe was generated with this data, it would not be allowed.</p>",
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      "id": 62776,
      "author_name": "udayabhanu",
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      "post_date": "01/16/2015 04:07:40",
      "content": "<p>I don't see any reason why they should be forbidden. Could you please elaborate your concern?</p>",
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      "id": 62780,
      "author_name": "xudongcao",
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      "post_date": "01/16/2015 09:13:42",
      "content": "<p>I simply want to confirm that I start with the right/allowed tool for this competition.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "id": 62784,
      "author_name": "emolson",
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      "post_date": "01/16/2015 10:53:44",
      "content": "<p>using the software is fine, but using pre-trained caffe networks violates the &quot;no external data&quot; rule.</p>",
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    {
      "id": 62785,
      "author_name": "abhishek",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/16/2015 10:55:12",
      "content": "<p>[quote=emolson;62784]</p>\n<p>using the software is fine, but using pre-trained caffe networks violates the &quot;no external data&quot; rule.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>I dont think it does. Maybe some admin can clarify this..</p>",
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      "id": 62787,
      "author_name": "emolson",
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      "post_date": "01/16/2015 11:27:07",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Abhishek;62785]</p>\n<p>[quote=emolson;62784]</p>\n<p>using the software is fine, but using pre-trained caffe networks violates the &quot;no external data&quot; rule.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>I dont think it does. Maybe some admin can clarify this..</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>[quote=William Cukierski;60493]</p>\n<p>[quote=Gil Levi;60463]</p>\n<p>What about using outside DATA that is unrelated to the contest, such as the ImageNet Large Scale Visual Recognition Challenge?</p>\n<p>http://image-net.org/challenges/LSVRC/2012/index</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>This would still be external data, which is not allowed.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Since pretrained caffe was generated with this data, it would not be allowed.</p>",
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