{
  "id": 666916,
  "title": "Missing personal names in OA_Lexicon_eBL.csv and possible fixes for 50% of them",
  "url": "/competitions/deep-past-initiative-machine-translation/discussion/666916",
  "author_name": "Angantyr",
  "post_date": "2026-01-09T20:33:00.145000",
  "votes": 8,
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  "content": "<p>Around 12 personal names in <code>OA_Lexicon_eBL.csv</code> have broken forms:</p>\n<ol>\n<li>NaN - </li>\n<li>36-digit number</li>\n</ol>\n<p>What I was able to find were some transliterations, two of them available on the OARE website. Many remain elusive, though.</p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>index</th>\n<th>type</th>\n<th>form</th>\n<th>norm</th>\n<th>lexeme</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>9535</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>389091864836248514255586938553941851</td>\n<td>Iršum-mālik</td>\n<td>Eršu-mālik</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>12774</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>013020795945778799450230218785778143</td>\n<td>Iddin-Anum</td>\n<td>Iddin-Anu</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13046</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>NaN</td>\n<td>Ikūn-pāšar</td>\n<td>Ikūn-pāšar</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13142</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>161259384490977689738018517105051321</td>\n<td>Ilānu-šarrāni</td>\n<td>Ilānu-šarrāni</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13171</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>884186258457677923967136170405134848</td>\n<td>Ilī-amarum</td>\n<td>Ilī-amaru</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13184</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>743146753497285618180837397488145634</td>\n<td>Ilī-wašranni</td>\n<td>Ilī-ašranni</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13278</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>706088230522133132755119434273703028</td>\n<td>Ilī-imḫuṣanni</td>\n<td>Ilī-imḫuṣanni</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13660</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>316183019350097064846809741446000887</td>\n<td>Ilum-Anum</td>\n<td>Ilum-Anu</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14229</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>090990840593823314336764938840049909</td>\n<td>Iškunanika</td>\n<td>Iškunanika</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14522</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>394196301536565714854817592870114283</td>\n<td>Ištar-šadu'e</td>\n<td>Ištar-šadu'e</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>27164</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>746955742970276442189030127396345096</td>\n<td>Šalim-Mama</td>\n<td>Šalim-Mama</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>31487</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>923001404712086145502364394488016273</td>\n<td>Šumnumana</td>\n<td>Šumnumana</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<h2>Resolved names</h2>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>norm</th>\n<th>transliteration</th>\n<th>source</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Iršum-mālik</td>\n<td>ir-šu-ma-lik</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/1e689665-29b5-43c8-bbe4-2d8b8f1b40ec\" target=\"_blank\">https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/1e689665-29b5-43c8-bbe4-2d8b8f1b40ec</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ilānu-šarrāni</td>\n<td>AN-nu-LUGAL.DINGIR.MEŠ</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ilī-amarum</td>\n<td>{DINGIR-a!-ma-ru-um}</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ilī-imḫuṣanni</td>\n<td>DINGIR-im-ḫu-ṣa-ni</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Šumnumana</td>\n<td>šu-um-nu-ma-na</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/d250ed1a-650f-7264-7ab6-a9974e8c41fe\" target=\"_blank\">https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/d250ed1a-650f-7264-7ab6-a9974e8c41fe</a></td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<h2>Possible different forms?</h2>\n<p>I couldn't find <code>Ikūn-pāšar</code>, but there was a mention of Ikūn-pîša in <a href=\"https://www.nino-leiden.nl/publication/the-ikun-pisa-letter-archive-from-tell-ed-der\" target=\"_blank\">The Ikūn-pîša Letter Archive from Tell ed-Dēr</a>.</p>\n<p>A similar case was for <code>Ilī-wašranni</code> for which I found a similar form of <code>Ilī-uṣranni</code> (Ì-lí-úṣ-ra-ni) in <a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></p>\n<h2>Unresolved names</h2>\n<p>Five names remained elusive and I couldn't find their transliterations:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Iddin-Anum</li>\n<li>Ilum-Anum</li>\n<li>Iškunanika</li>\n<li>Ištar-šadu'e</li>\n<li>Šalim-Mama</li>\n</ul>\n<p>While there are nearly 4500 PN entries in the <code>OA_Lexicone_eBL.csv</code> meaning it's not a big deal, I think it would still be of benefit to get those names right, especially if they represent important figures in the not yet translated texts.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 3388944,
      "postDate": "2026-01-09T20:33:00.147Z",
      "content": "<p>Around 12 personal names in <code>OA_Lexicon_eBL.csv</code> have broken forms:</p>\n<ol>\n<li>NaN - </li>\n<li>36-digit number</li>\n</ol>\n<p>What I was able to find were some transliterations, two of them available on the OARE website. Many remain elusive, though.</p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>index</th>\n<th>type</th>\n<th>form</th>\n<th>norm</th>\n<th>lexeme</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>9535</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>389091864836248514255586938553941851</td>\n<td>Iršum-mālik</td>\n<td>Eršu-mālik</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>12774</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>013020795945778799450230218785778143</td>\n<td>Iddin-Anum</td>\n<td>Iddin-Anu</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13046</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>NaN</td>\n<td>Ikūn-pāšar</td>\n<td>Ikūn-pāšar</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13142</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>161259384490977689738018517105051321</td>\n<td>Ilānu-šarrāni</td>\n<td>Ilānu-šarrāni</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13171</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>884186258457677923967136170405134848</td>\n<td>Ilī-amarum</td>\n<td>Ilī-amaru</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13184</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>743146753497285618180837397488145634</td>\n<td>Ilī-wašranni</td>\n<td>Ilī-ašranni</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13278</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>706088230522133132755119434273703028</td>\n<td>Ilī-imḫuṣanni</td>\n<td>Ilī-imḫuṣanni</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>13660</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>316183019350097064846809741446000887</td>\n<td>Ilum-Anum</td>\n<td>Ilum-Anu</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14229</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>090990840593823314336764938840049909</td>\n<td>Iškunanika</td>\n<td>Iškunanika</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>14522</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>394196301536565714854817592870114283</td>\n<td>Ištar-šadu'e</td>\n<td>Ištar-šadu'e</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>27164</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>746955742970276442189030127396345096</td>\n<td>Šalim-Mama</td>\n<td>Šalim-Mama</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>31487</td>\n<td>PN</td>\n<td>923001404712086145502364394488016273</td>\n<td>Šumnumana</td>\n<td>Šumnumana</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<h2>Resolved names</h2>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>norm</th>\n<th>transliteration</th>\n<th>source</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Iršum-mālik</td>\n<td>ir-šu-ma-lik</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/1e689665-29b5-43c8-bbe4-2d8b8f1b40ec\" target=\"_blank\">https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/1e689665-29b5-43c8-bbe4-2d8b8f1b40ec</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ilānu-šarrāni</td>\n<td>AN-nu-LUGAL.DINGIR.MEŠ</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ilī-amarum</td>\n<td>{DINGIR-a!-ma-ru-um}</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ilī-imḫuṣanni</td>\n<td>DINGIR-im-ḫu-ṣa-ni</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Šumnumana</td>\n<td>šu-um-nu-ma-na</td>\n<td><a href=\"https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/d250ed1a-650f-7264-7ab6-a9974e8c41fe\" target=\"_blank\">https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/d250ed1a-650f-7264-7ab6-a9974e8c41fe</a></td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<h2>Possible different forms?</h2>\n<p>I couldn't find <code>Ikūn-pāšar</code>, but there was a mention of Ikūn-pîša in <a href=\"https://www.nino-leiden.nl/publication/the-ikun-pisa-letter-archive-from-tell-ed-der\" target=\"_blank\">The Ikūn-pîša Letter Archive from Tell ed-Dēr</a>.</p>\n<p>A similar case was for <code>Ilī-wašranni</code> for which I found a similar form of <code>Ilī-uṣranni</code> (Ì-lí-úṣ-ra-ni) in <a href=\"https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"</a></p>\n<h2>Unresolved names</h2>\n<p>Five names remained elusive and I couldn't find their transliterations:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Iddin-Anum</li>\n<li>Ilum-Anum</li>\n<li>Iškunanika</li>\n<li>Ištar-šadu'e</li>\n<li>Šalim-Mama</li>\n</ul>\n<p>While there are nearly 4500 PN entries in the <code>OA_Lexicone_eBL.csv</code> meaning it's not a big deal, I think it would still be of benefit to get those names right, especially if they represent important figures in the not yet translated texts.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Around 12 personal names in `OA_Lexicon_eBL.csv` have broken forms:\n1. NaN - \n2. 36-digit number\n\nWhat I was able to find were some transliterations, two of them available on the OARE website. Many remain elusive, though.\n\n\n|index|type|form|norm|lexeme|\n|---|---|---|---|---|\n| 9535 | PN | 389091864836248514255586938553941851 | Iršum-mālik | Eršu-mālik |\n| 12774 | PN | 013020795945778799450230218785778143 | Iddin-Anum | Iddin-Anu |\n| 13046 | PN | NaN | Ikūn-pāšar | Ikūn-pāšar |\n| 13142 | PN | 161259384490977689738018517105051321 | Ilānu-šarrāni | Ilānu-šarrāni |\n| 13171 | PN | 884186258457677923967136170405134848 | Ilī-amarum | Ilī-amaru |\n| 13184 | PN | 743146753497285618180837397488145634 | Ilī-wašranni | Ilī-ašranni |\n| 13278 | PN | 706088230522133132755119434273703028 | Ilī-imḫuṣanni | Ilī-imḫuṣanni |\n| 13660 | PN | 316183019350097064846809741446000887 | Ilum-Anum | Ilum-Anu |\n| 14229 | PN | 090990840593823314336764938840049909 | Iškunanika | Iškunanika |\n| 14522 | PN | 394196301536565714854817592870114283 | Ištar-šadu'e | Ištar-šadu'e |\n| 27164 | PN | 746955742970276442189030127396345096 | Šalim-Mama | Šalim-Mama |\n| 31487 | PN | 923001404712086145502364394488016273 | Šumnumana | Šumnumana |\n\n\n\n## Resolved names\n\n|norm|transliteration|source|\n|---|---|---|\n| Iršum-mālik | ir-šu-ma-lik | https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/1e689665-29b5-43c8-bbe4-2d8b8f1b40ec |\n| Ilānu-šarrāni | AN-nu-LUGAL.DINGIR.MEŠ | [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf) |\n| Ilī-amarum | {DINGIR-a!-ma-ru-um} | [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf) |\n| Ilī-imḫuṣanni | DINGIR-im-ḫu-ṣa-ni | [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf) |\n| Šumnumana | šu-um-nu-ma-na | https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/d250ed1a-650f-7264-7ab6-a9974e8c41fe |\n\n## Possible different forms?\nI couldn't find `Ikūn-pāšar`, but there was a mention of Ikūn-pîša in [The Ikūn-pîša Letter Archive from Tell ed-Dēr](https://www.nino-leiden.nl/publication/the-ikun-pisa-letter-archive-from-tell-ed-der).\n\nA similar case was for `Ilī-wašranni` for which I found a similar form of `Ilī-uṣranni` (Ì-lí-úṣ-ra-ni) in [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf)\n\n## Unresolved names\nFive names remained elusive and I couldn't find their transliterations:\n- Iddin-Anum\n- Ilum-Anum\n- Iškunanika\n- Ištar-šadu'e\n- Šalim-Mama\n\nWhile there are nearly 4500 PN entries in the `OA_Lexicone_eBL.csv` meaning it's not a big deal, I think it would still be of benefit to get those names right, especially if they represent important figures in the not yet translated texts.",
      "votes": 8
    }
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  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "3388944": "Around 12 personal names in `OA_Lexicon_eBL.csv` have broken forms:\n1. NaN - \n2. 36-digit number\n\nWhat I was able to find were some transliterations, two of them available on the OARE website. Many remain elusive, though.\n\n\n|index|type|form|norm|lexeme|\n|---|---|---|---|---|\n| 9535 | PN | 389091864836248514255586938553941851 | Iršum-mālik | Eršu-mālik |\n| 12774 | PN | 013020795945778799450230218785778143 | Iddin-Anum | Iddin-Anu |\n| 13046 | PN | NaN | Ikūn-pāšar | Ikūn-pāšar |\n| 13142 | PN | 161259384490977689738018517105051321 | Ilānu-šarrāni | Ilānu-šarrāni |\n| 13171 | PN | 884186258457677923967136170405134848 | Ilī-amarum | Ilī-amaru |\n| 13184 | PN | 743146753497285618180837397488145634 | Ilī-wašranni | Ilī-ašranni |\n| 13278 | PN | 706088230522133132755119434273703028 | Ilī-imḫuṣanni | Ilī-imḫuṣanni |\n| 13660 | PN | 316183019350097064846809741446000887 | Ilum-Anum | Ilum-Anu |\n| 14229 | PN | 090990840593823314336764938840049909 | Iškunanika | Iškunanika |\n| 14522 | PN | 394196301536565714854817592870114283 | Ištar-šadu'e | Ištar-šadu'e |\n| 27164 | PN | 746955742970276442189030127396345096 | Šalim-Mama | Šalim-Mama |\n| 31487 | PN | 923001404712086145502364394488016273 | Šumnumana | Šumnumana |\n\n\n\n## Resolved names\n\n|norm|transliteration|source|\n|---|---|---|\n| Iršum-mālik | ir-šu-ma-lik | https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/1e689665-29b5-43c8-bbe4-2d8b8f1b40ec |\n| Ilānu-šarrāni | AN-nu-LUGAL.DINGIR.MEŠ | [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf) |\n| Ilī-amarum | {DINGIR-a!-ma-ru-um} | [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf) |\n| Ilī-imḫuṣanni | DINGIR-im-ḫu-ṣa-ni | [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf) |\n| Šumnumana | šu-um-nu-ma-na | https://oare.byu.edu/epigraphies/d250ed1a-650f-7264-7ab6-a9974e8c41fe |\n\n## Possible different forms?\nI couldn't find `Ikūn-pāšar`, but there was a mention of Ikūn-pîša in [The Ikūn-pîša Letter Archive from Tell ed-Dēr](https://www.nino-leiden.nl/publication/the-ikun-pisa-letter-archive-from-tell-ed-der).\n\nA similar case was for `Ilī-wašranni` for which I found a similar form of `Ilī-uṣranni` (Ì-lí-úṣ-ra-ni) in [Silvia Gabrieli 's Master Thesis \"Aspetti storico-religiosi nell'onomastica paleoassira\"](https://unitesi.unive.it/retrieve/7be18611-24be-456f-a72e-a8f98e5d1b44/831684-1157658.pdf)\n\n## Unresolved names\nFive names remained elusive and I couldn't find their transliterations:\n- Iddin-Anum\n- Ilum-Anum\n- Iškunanika\n- Ištar-šadu'e\n- Šalim-Mama\n\nWhile there are nearly 4500 PN entries in the `OA_Lexicone_eBL.csv` meaning it's not a big deal, I think it would still be of benefit to get those names right, especially if they represent important figures in the not yet translated texts."
  }
}