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  "id": 5877,
  "title": "Prizes",
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  "post_date": "2013-09-25T16:16:39.373Z",
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  "content": "<p>Ok this is playground and the competition is for fun. Understood.</p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">However I have some concerns about the first prize. 50 bucks and charity is kind of mixed message. If I worked at an animal shelter&nbsp;</span><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">and a tech startup &nbsp;donated me $50 I would not be pleased.</span></p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>By the way a few years ago I took my younger brother to a math competition's awards ceremony (elementary school). &nbsp;The winner received a nice certificate and the second place got a fluffy plush kangaroo. I am almost sure that the younger second prize winners were happier than the winners :)</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/25/2013 16:16:39",
      "content": "<p>Ok this is playground and the competition is for fun. Understood.</p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">However I have some concerns about the first prize. 50 bucks and charity is kind of mixed message. If I worked at an animal shelter&nbsp;</span><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">and a tech startup &nbsp;donated me $50 I would not be pleased.</span></p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>By the way a few years ago I took my younger brother to a math competition's awards ceremony (elementary school). &nbsp;The winner received a nice certificate and the second place got a fluffy plush kangaroo. I am almost sure that the younger second prize winners were happier than the winners :)</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/25/2013 17:02:04",
      "content": "<p>I am not at the elementary school anymore, but I think that some funny medal or a toy with kaggle symbolics will be great prize and good motivation :)</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/25/2013 17:09:34",
      "content": "<p>[quote=beluga;31547]</p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">If I worked at an animal shelter&nbsp;</span><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">and a tech startup &nbsp;donated me $50 I would not be pleased.</span></p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>I'll pay the donation out of pocket if that helps you reconcile your preconceived notion of what a donation ought to be. &nbsp;Additionally, since you find the gesture so empty, I'll open up the prize pool to anyone interested in contributing a similarly displeasure-inducing amount to the charity prize. &nbsp;Contact me via my profile if you'd like to make the (anonymous) donation more pleasing ;-)</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/25/2013 17:32:18",
      "content": "<p>What about the part about the plush kangaroo?</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/25/2013 18:29:26",
      "content": "<p>I am new to Kaggle, so I'm not exactly sure how things work around here. I'm assuming that if we come up with the algorithm, we do not need to give our source code, right? An algorithm like this is worth quite a lot of money if the same logic could be applied to many other types of objects/features. The number of applications for such an algorithm are numerous: medical imaging analysis, big data, robotics, recognition of objects for devices such as google glass, etc. I am also curious to know who created this competition.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "content": "<p>Welcome to Kaggle!</p>\n<p>We (Kaggle) made the competition with data provided by Microsoft research. I have a doctorate in medical image analysis and do not share your optimism about the general applicability of the methods that will win this competition, but my opinion is moot because you do not have to provide or license away your source code if you don't want to. &nbsp;You just submit a single column of 1s and 0s.</p>\n<p>Now, if we see anomalous scores we may ask to see your methods just to verify they are not cheating, but we will not share, save, claim rights to, or even remember what you show us. We also encourage open-sourcing, because then the knowledge lives on past the competition end.</p>\n<p>Good luck and have fun!</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/25/2013 18:48:52",
      "content": "<p>We've had some folks ask about it, so we have now added a donation link to the prizes page:</p>\n<p>https://www.kaggle.com/c/dogs-vs-cats/details/prizes</p>\n<p>All proceeds go to the ASPCA.</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/25/2013 18:50:42",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for the information and your quick reply! I've been working on creating an algorithm like this in my free time for a few years now &nbsp;(a more universally applicable solution though). It is quite a difficult problem and I haven't had any huge success. Though if I do come up with an algorithm before the deadline, I might test it on the data set provided by Microsoft and submit an entry.</p>\n<p>This is a really neat website, by the way. I think it's a great platform to bring developers together to solve difficult and intriguing problems.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "id": "31565",
      "postDate": "09/25/2013 18:53:52",
      "content": "<p>lol did you just add a stuffed Boo hahahahaha</p>",
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      "id": "31567",
      "postDate": "09/25/2013 20:17:00",
      "content": "<p>Thanks Will for the quick donation option!</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Anyway the second prize is still&nbsp;favourable, I will go for it :D</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/26/2013 16:16:39",
      "content": "<p>After some thought I decided to add my three cents about prizes in this competition and in general.</p>\n<p>First, the description states that it's about CAPTCHA's, which are a technology with commercial potential (even though Asirra is not that good: it labelled me as a bot).</p>\n<p>Second, in my opinion it's not even about cats and dogs, it's about image recognition. Does anybody really think that the results won't generalize at all? Generalization is a cornerstone of machine learning. In a narrow sense - generalization to unseen images of cats and dogs, in a broad sense, to other image recognition tasks.</p>\n<p>The same thing with recognizing birds from audio - I'd venture to state that it's not that much different from, say, recognizing a submarine class from sonar data.</p>\n<p>BTW, did you know that Sillicon Valley came to be and grew on military research and government money, and only quite recently private financing became significant? Steve Blank has some great materials on this: http://steveblank.com/secret-history/</p>\n<p>Third, with all the talk about big data and data science being such a hot topic, I'm amazed that funding even a modest prize is such a big deal, even if you insist that there's no commercial potential. Help me understand, because I'm baffled.</p>\n<p>$1000 would probably be a few days' pay for scientist at Microsoft Research. Do they consider a Kaggle competition such an unimportant affair that they cannot spare a thousand bucks? Or is Microsoft making the world a favour by releasing this dataset? If so, maybe there should be a fee for entering this contest.</p>\n<p>Somehow this situation reminds me of an article I read recently about Linus Torvalds and Nvidia. Here's the abstract:</p>\n<p><img src=\"http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Screen-shot-2012-06-18-at-10.32.45-AM.png\" alt width=\"639\" height=\"349\"></p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/26/2013 16:51:21",
      "content": "<p>To me the prize doesn't really matter since you don't need to show your source code. If you come up with an algorithm that also applies to other objects and has a high degree of accuracy then there is nothing preventing you from selling it for what it is worth or starting your own company. This competition is just a place where we can all try to come up with the best algorithm and compete against each other. To me this competition is just for fun. It would be cool to win a stuffed Boo though. :-)</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/26/2013 17:01:29",
      "content": "<p><br>@ Foxtrot</p>\n<p>It is very old discussion. They name Data Scientist the sexiest job of the century (or something like that), so be grateful and work for free for the rest of your life. Any way, we are not smart enough to become hedge fund managers.<br>P.S. This particular competition is not appealing to me because it will be &quot;try to catch a cheater&quot; competition</p>",
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      "id": "31649",
      "postDate": "09/27/2013 08:44:05",
      "content": "<p>Out of interest, would a top-ten ranking in this competition count towards &quot;Master Kaggler&quot; badge? Or is that excluded because of the competition category?</p>",
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      "id": "31658",
      "postDate": "09/27/2013 13:13:58",
      "content": "<p>Yes, this one counts for full credit.</p>",
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      "postDate": "09/28/2013 14:50:21",
      "content": "<p>Since at least four people found it appropriate to flag my earlier post (presumably because of the image of Linus Torvalds giving Nvidia a finger), I would like to extend apologies for my insensitivity to those who took offense.</p>\n<p>If you'd like to read that post, it's available in my profile, Forum tab. The main point could be summarized in three words: <strong>why so cheap</strong>?</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[quote=William Cukierski;31562]</p>\n<p>(...) you do not have to provide or license away your source code if you don't want to. You just submit a single column of 1s and 0s.</p>\n<p>Now, if we see anomalous scores we may ask to see your methods just to verify they are not cheating, but we will not share, save, claim rights to, or even remember what you show us.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Well, if I choose to enter this contest and the organizers would like to see my code for any reason, it will be available for 20000 Euro paid in advance, thank you.</p>\n<p><br>[quote=Sergey Yurgenson;31622]</p>\n<p>@ Foxtrot</p>\n<p>(...) Any way, we are not smart enough to become hedge fund managers.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Sergey, I'm sure you could do quite well, especially with your interest in time series.</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "id": "31874",
      "postDate": "10/01/2013 16:40:41",
      "content": "<p>What about offering &nbsp;Kaggle T-Shirts for the winners ?</p>",
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      "postDate": "10/01/2013 17:06:45",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Foxtrot;31713]</p>\n<p><br>[quote=Sergey Yurgenson;31622]</p>\n<p>@ Foxtrot</p>\n<p>(...) Any way, we are not smart enough to become hedge fund managers.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Sergey, I'm sure you could do quite well, especially with your interest in time series.</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p><br>Thank you, Foxtrot. My comment was an attempt (probably not really successful) of sarcasm.</p>",
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      "postDate": "10/14/2013 12:18:32",
      "content": "<p>This competition actually resembles a job proposition that was put to me a few years back.&nbsp; It wasn't cats and dogs though, it was feral cats and various native wildlife at a proposed bait station that could drop a poisoned bait when appropriate.</p>\n<p>My answer then was that I didn't think I could make it work for the budget involved, but there is potential for a budget and a valuable goal here, and potentially a lot of organisations that might see that as worthwhile, albeit each with their own different data sets.</p>\n<p>In many ways it's a simpler problem.&nbsp; E.g. there's potential to design the physical setup to get more controlled images.</p>",
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      "id": "35515",
      "postDate": "11/30/2013 05:41:55",
      "content": "<p>Hi Guys,</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Just want to confirm that this competition also counts for Kaggle points, right ?</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "id": "35664",
      "postDate": "12/02/2013 14:08:45",
      "content": "<p>[quote=orchid;35515]</p>\n<p>Hi Guys,</p>\n<p>Just want to confirm that this competition also counts for Kaggle points, right ?</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Correct</p>",
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      "author_name": "sbachish",
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      "post_date": "09/25/2013 17:02:04",
      "content": "<p>I am not at the elementary school anymore, but I think that some funny medal or a toy with kaggle symbolics will be great prize and good motivation :)</p>",
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      "id": 31550,
      "author_name": "wcukierski",
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      "post_date": "09/25/2013 17:09:34",
      "content": "<p>[quote=beluga;31547]</p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">If I worked at an animal shelter&nbsp;</span><span style=\"line-height: 1.4\">and a tech startup &nbsp;donated me $50 I would not be pleased.</span></p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>I'll pay the donation out of pocket if that helps you reconcile your preconceived notion of what a donation ought to be. &nbsp;Additionally, since you find the gesture so empty, I'll open up the prize pool to anyone interested in contributing a similarly displeasure-inducing amount to the charity prize. &nbsp;Contact me via my profile if you'd like to make the (anonymous) donation more pleasing ;-)</p>",
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      "id": 31551,
      "author_name": "adrianopetrich",
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      "post_date": "09/25/2013 17:32:18",
      "content": "<p>What about the part about the plush kangaroo?</p>",
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      "author_name": "oliver9",
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      "content": "<p>I am new to Kaggle, so I'm not exactly sure how things work around here. I'm assuming that if we come up with the algorithm, we do not need to give our source code, right? An algorithm like this is worth quite a lot of money if the same logic could be applied to many other types of objects/features. The number of applications for such an algorithm are numerous: medical imaging analysis, big data, robotics, recognition of objects for devices such as google glass, etc. I am also curious to know who created this competition.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "wcukierski",
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      "post_date": "09/25/2013 18:42:40",
      "content": "<p>Welcome to Kaggle!</p>\n<p>We (Kaggle) made the competition with data provided by Microsoft research. I have a doctorate in medical image analysis and do not share your optimism about the general applicability of the methods that will win this competition, but my opinion is moot because you do not have to provide or license away your source code if you don't want to. &nbsp;You just submit a single column of 1s and 0s.</p>\n<p>Now, if we see anomalous scores we may ask to see your methods just to verify they are not cheating, but we will not share, save, claim rights to, or even remember what you show us. We also encourage open-sourcing, because then the knowledge lives on past the competition end.</p>\n<p>Good luck and have fun!</p>",
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      "content": "<p>We've had some folks ask about it, so we have now added a donation link to the prizes page:</p>\n<p>https://www.kaggle.com/c/dogs-vs-cats/details/prizes</p>\n<p>All proceeds go to the ASPCA.</p>",
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      "author_name": "oliver9",
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      "content": "<p>Thanks for the information and your quick reply! I've been working on creating an algorithm like this in my free time for a few years now &nbsp;(a more universally applicable solution though). It is quite a difficult problem and I haven't had any huge success. Though if I do come up with an algorithm before the deadline, I might test it on the data set provided by Microsoft and submit an entry.</p>\n<p>This is a really neat website, by the way. I think it's a great platform to bring developers together to solve difficult and intriguing problems.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "domcastro",
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      "post_date": "09/25/2013 18:53:52",
      "content": "<p>lol did you just add a stuffed Boo hahahahaha</p>",
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      "author_name": "gaborfodor",
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      "content": "<p>Thanks Will for the quick donation option!</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Anyway the second prize is still&nbsp;favourable, I will go for it :D</p>",
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      "author_name": "zygmunt",
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      "post_date": "09/26/2013 16:16:39",
      "content": "<p>After some thought I decided to add my three cents about prizes in this competition and in general.</p>\n<p>First, the description states that it's about CAPTCHA's, which are a technology with commercial potential (even though Asirra is not that good: it labelled me as a bot).</p>\n<p>Second, in my opinion it's not even about cats and dogs, it's about image recognition. Does anybody really think that the results won't generalize at all? Generalization is a cornerstone of machine learning. In a narrow sense - generalization to unseen images of cats and dogs, in a broad sense, to other image recognition tasks.</p>\n<p>The same thing with recognizing birds from audio - I'd venture to state that it's not that much different from, say, recognizing a submarine class from sonar data.</p>\n<p>BTW, did you know that Sillicon Valley came to be and grew on military research and government money, and only quite recently private financing became significant? Steve Blank has some great materials on this: http://steveblank.com/secret-history/</p>\n<p>Third, with all the talk about big data and data science being such a hot topic, I'm amazed that funding even a modest prize is such a big deal, even if you insist that there's no commercial potential. Help me understand, because I'm baffled.</p>\n<p>$1000 would probably be a few days' pay for scientist at Microsoft Research. Do they consider a Kaggle competition such an unimportant affair that they cannot spare a thousand bucks? Or is Microsoft making the world a favour by releasing this dataset? If so, maybe there should be a fee for entering this contest.</p>\n<p>Somehow this situation reminds me of an article I read recently about Linus Torvalds and Nvidia. Here's the abstract:</p>\n<p><img src=\"http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Screen-shot-2012-06-18-at-10.32.45-AM.png\" alt width=\"639\" height=\"349\"></p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "oliver9",
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      "post_date": "09/26/2013 16:51:21",
      "content": "<p>To me the prize doesn't really matter since you don't need to show your source code. If you come up with an algorithm that also applies to other objects and has a high degree of accuracy then there is nothing preventing you from selling it for what it is worth or starting your own company. This competition is just a place where we can all try to come up with the best algorithm and compete against each other. To me this competition is just for fun. It would be cool to win a stuffed Boo though. :-)</p>",
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      "author_name": "ccccat",
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      "post_date": "09/26/2013 17:01:29",
      "content": "<p><br>@ Foxtrot</p>\n<p>It is very old discussion. They name Data Scientist the sexiest job of the century (or something like that), so be grateful and work for free for the rest of your life. Any way, we are not smart enough to become hedge fund managers.<br>P.S. This particular competition is not appealing to me because it will be &quot;try to catch a cheater&quot; competition</p>",
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      "author_name": "slobo777",
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      "post_date": "09/27/2013 08:44:05",
      "content": "<p>Out of interest, would a top-ten ranking in this competition count towards &quot;Master Kaggler&quot; badge? Or is that excluded because of the competition category?</p>",
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      "id": 31658,
      "author_name": "wcukierski",
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      "post_date": "09/27/2013 13:13:58",
      "content": "<p>Yes, this one counts for full credit.</p>",
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      "author_name": "zygmunt",
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      "post_date": "09/28/2013 14:50:21",
      "content": "<p>Since at least four people found it appropriate to flag my earlier post (presumably because of the image of Linus Torvalds giving Nvidia a finger), I would like to extend apologies for my insensitivity to those who took offense.</p>\n<p>If you'd like to read that post, it's available in my profile, Forum tab. The main point could be summarized in three words: <strong>why so cheap</strong>?</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[quote=William Cukierski;31562]</p>\n<p>(...) you do not have to provide or license away your source code if you don't want to. You just submit a single column of 1s and 0s.</p>\n<p>Now, if we see anomalous scores we may ask to see your methods just to verify they are not cheating, but we will not share, save, claim rights to, or even remember what you show us.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Well, if I choose to enter this contest and the organizers would like to see my code for any reason, it will be available for 20000 Euro paid in advance, thank you.</p>\n<p><br>[quote=Sergey Yurgenson;31622]</p>\n<p>@ Foxtrot</p>\n<p>(...) Any way, we are not smart enough to become hedge fund managers.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Sergey, I'm sure you could do quite well, especially with your interest in time series.</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "id": 31874,
      "author_name": "malzantot",
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      "post_date": "10/01/2013 16:40:41",
      "content": "<p>What about offering &nbsp;Kaggle T-Shirts for the winners ?</p>",
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      "id": 31875,
      "author_name": "ccccat",
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      "post_date": "10/01/2013 17:06:45",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Foxtrot;31713]</p>\n<p><br>[quote=Sergey Yurgenson;31622]</p>\n<p>@ Foxtrot</p>\n<p>(...) Any way, we are not smart enough to become hedge fund managers.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Sergey, I'm sure you could do quite well, especially with your interest in time series.</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p><br>Thank you, Foxtrot. My comment was an attempt (probably not really successful) of sarcasm.</p>",
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      "author_name": "mc0e133962",
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      "post_date": "10/14/2013 12:18:32",
      "content": "<p>This competition actually resembles a job proposition that was put to me a few years back.&nbsp; It wasn't cats and dogs though, it was feral cats and various native wildlife at a proposed bait station that could drop a poisoned bait when appropriate.</p>\n<p>My answer then was that I didn't think I could make it work for the budget involved, but there is potential for a budget and a valuable goal here, and potentially a lot of organisations that might see that as worthwhile, albeit each with their own different data sets.</p>\n<p>In many ways it's a simpler problem.&nbsp; E.g. there's potential to design the physical setup to get more controlled images.</p>",
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      "author_name": "orchid",
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      "post_date": "11/30/2013 05:41:55",
      "content": "<p>Hi Guys,</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Just want to confirm that this competition also counts for Kaggle points, right ?</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "wcukierski",
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      "content": "<p>[quote=orchid;35515]</p>\n<p>Hi Guys,</p>\n<p>Just want to confirm that this competition also counts for Kaggle points, right ?</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Correct</p>",
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