{
  "id": 77911,
  "title": "Nice overview paper on model evaluation and model selection",
  "url": "/competitions/elo-merchant-category-recommendation/discussion/77911",
  "author_name": "Yifan Xie",
  "post_date": "2019-01-17T15:18:10.747000",
  "votes": 46,
  "comment_count": 11,
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  "content": "<p>Like many other competitions, we can see there is a lot of discussions on model evaluation in this competition - validation strategies, choice of \"k\" in K-fold, feature selection, you name it.  I came across the following recent paper that gives a very good overview, and cover some statistical aspect of cross-validation that is not often discussed here:</p>\n\n<p>Here it is:  <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1811.12808.pdf\">Model Evaluation, Model Selection, and Algorithm Selection in Machine Learnin</a>g, by Sebastian Raschka, November 2018</p>\n\n<p>Hopefully this helps many of us to clarify our thought and make more insightful decisions - especially someone like me who usually overfit things :) </p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 457504,
      "postDate": "2019-01-17T15:18:10.747Z",
      "content": "<p>Like many other competitions, we can see there is a lot of discussions on model evaluation in this competition - validation strategies, choice of \"k\" in K-fold, feature selection, you name it.  I came across the following recent paper that gives a very good overview, and cover some statistical aspect of cross-validation that is not often discussed here:</p>\n\n<p>Here it is:  <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1811.12808.pdf\">Model Evaluation, Model Selection, and Algorithm Selection in Machine Learnin</a>g, by Sebastian Raschka, November 2018</p>\n\n<p>Hopefully this helps many of us to clarify our thought and make more insightful decisions - especially someone like me who usually overfit things :) </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Like many other competitions, we can see there is a lot of discussions on model evaluation in this competition - validation strategies, choice of \"k\" in K-fold, feature selection, you name it.  I came across the following recent paper that gives a very good overview, and cover some statistical aspect of cross-validation that is not often discussed here:\n\nHere it is:  [Model Evaluation, Model Selection, and Algorithm Selection in Machine Learnin][1]g, by Sebastian Raschka, November 2018\n\nHopefully this helps many of us to clarify our thought and make more insightful decisions - especially someone like me who usually overfit things :) \n\n  [1]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1811.12808.pdf",
      "votes": 46
    },
    {
      "id": 650763,
      "postDate": "2019-10-16T16:55:51.900Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing .\n<a href=\"/psvishnu\">@psvishnu</a>  check this link...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for sharing .\n@psvishnu  check this link...",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 650858,
          "postDate": "2019-10-16T19:01:32.157Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/tarunkoutharapu\">@tarunkoutharapu</a>  it looks interesting, next on my read list</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@tarunkoutharapu  it looks interesting, next on my read list"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 457988,
      "postDate": "2019-01-18T13:39:46.557Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks u for sharing :)\nIt is very helpful for me! </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks u for sharing :)\nIt is very helpful for me! ",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 466525,
      "postDate": "2019-02-05T14:57:08.687Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing. But none of those approaches are helping to get reliable CV ( CV rmse is not correlated to test rmse )for me. Can you please share your personal approach or gives some tips?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for sharing. But none of those approaches are helping to get reliable CV ( CV rmse is not correlated to test rmse )for me. Can you please share your personal approach or gives some tips?"
    },
    {
      "id": 457747,
      "postDate": "2019-01-18T02:57:42.630Z",
      "content": "<p>Nice job</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Nice job"
    },
    {
      "id": 457685,
      "postDate": "2019-01-17T23:47:43.080Z",
      "content": "<p>thinks!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "thinks!"
    },
    {
      "id": 458144,
      "postDate": "2019-01-18T22:14:30.023Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "isDeleted": true
    },
    {
      "id": 457519,
      "postDate": "2019-01-17T15:48:40.840Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for sharing :)",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 1518581,
      "postDate": "2021-09-20T19:17:44.670Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for sharing"
    },
    {
      "id": 466738,
      "postDate": "2019-02-05T21:58:38.440Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for sharing!"
    },
    {
      "id": 458407,
      "postDate": "2019-01-19T14:59:41.887Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for Sharing!!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for Sharing!!\n"
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 650763,
      "author_name": "Tarun K",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-10-16T16:55:51.900000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing .\n<a href=\"/psvishnu\">@psvishnu</a>  check this link...</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 650858,
          "author_name": "psv",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-10-16T19:01:32.157000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/tarunkoutharapu\">@tarunkoutharapu</a>  it looks interesting, next on my read list</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 457988,
      "author_name": "SeongYunByeon",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-01-18T13:39:46.557000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks u for sharing :)\nIt is very helpful for me! </p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 466525,
      "author_name": "Salamat",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-02-05T14:57:08.687000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing. But none of those approaches are helping to get reliable CV ( CV rmse is not correlated to test rmse )for me. Can you please share your personal approach or gives some tips?</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 457747,
      "author_name": "Jianfei Wang",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-01-18T02:57:42.630000",
      "content": "<p>Nice job</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 457685,
      "author_name": "Zhuang Jia",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-01-17T23:47:43.080000",
      "content": "<p>thinks!</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 458144,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-01-18T22:14:30.023000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 457519,
      "author_name": "Manoj",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-01-17T15:48:40.840000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing :)</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1518581,
      "author_name": "Konduri Sai Somanadha Sastry",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-09-20T19:17:44.670000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 466738,
      "author_name": "Guto P",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-02-05T21:58:38.440000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 458407,
      "author_name": "Pranav Nema",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-01-19T14:59:41.887000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for Sharing!!</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "457504": "Like many other competitions, we can see there is a lot of discussions on model evaluation in this competition - validation strategies, choice of \"k\" in K-fold, feature selection, you name it.  I came across the following recent paper that gives a very good overview, and cover some statistical aspect of cross-validation that is not often discussed here:\n\nHere it is:  [Model Evaluation, Model Selection, and Algorithm Selection in Machine Learnin][1]g, by Sebastian Raschka, November 2018\n\nHopefully this helps many of us to clarify our thought and make more insightful decisions - especially someone like me who usually overfit things :) \n\n  [1]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1811.12808.pdf",
    "650763": "Thanks for sharing .\n@psvishnu  check this link...",
    "457988": "Thanks u for sharing :)\nIt is very helpful for me! ",
    "466525": "Thanks for sharing. But none of those approaches are helping to get reliable CV ( CV rmse is not correlated to test rmse )for me. Can you please share your personal approach or gives some tips?",
    "457747": "Nice job",
    "457685": "thinks!",
    "458144": "",
    "457519": "Thanks for sharing :)",
    "1518581": "Thanks for sharing",
    "466738": "Thanks for sharing!",
    "458407": "Thanks for Sharing!!\n"
  }
}