{
  "id": 82041,
  "title": "Leaderboard Shake Up",
  "url": "/competitions/elo-merchant-category-recommendation/discussion/82041",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2019-02-27T00:41:51.300925900Z",
  "votes": 6,
  "comment_count": 8,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>This is my first Kaggle competition so I want to know if the drastic changes between the public and private leader board are normal for a kaggle competition.  I'm thinking that the change may be abnormal due to the number of outliers.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "479070",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 00:41:51",
      "content": "<p>This is my first Kaggle competition so I want to know if the drastic changes between the public and private leader board are normal for a kaggle competition.  I'm thinking that the change may be abnormal due to the number of outliers.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This is my first Kaggle competition so I want to know if the drastic changes between the public and private leader board are normal for a kaggle competition.  I'm thinking that the change may be abnormal due to the number of outliers.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479072",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 00:43:17",
      "content": "<p>There's a Shake up! Some top teams disappeared.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "There's a Shake up! Some top teams disappeared.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479095",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 00:56:59",
      "content": "<p>That depends on the distribution of data in the train and test(hidden) data. \nif they have the same distribution, all goes well.\notherwise, there will be a big change between the public and private LB.</p>\n\n<p>That's why Kaggle permit that you select two kernels for Your final score.\nSo select one that gives a good public score ie where you trust the public LB\nand another one that gives a good CV score because the CV score is more reliable if data changes.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "That depends on the distribution of data in the train and test(hidden) data. \nif they have the same distribution, all goes well.\notherwise, there will be a big change between the public and private LB.\n\nThat's why Kaggle permit that you select two kernels for Your final score.\nSo select one that gives a good public score ie where you trust the public LB\nand another one that gives a good CV score because the CV score is more reliable if data changes.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479107",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 01:08:46",
      "content": "<p>Yeah, there were too much shake ups. I wonder how some of the top teams at the public leaderboard managed to stay on top in the private leaderboard. Looking forward for their strategies that made robust submissions.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yeah, there were too much shake ups. I wonder how some of the top teams at the public leaderboard managed to stay on top in the private leaderboard. Looking forward for their strategies that made robust submissions.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479115",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 01:17:00",
      "content": "<p>It so happened that I didn't really trust CV, for which I was punished.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It so happened that I didn't really trust CV, for which I was punished.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479146",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 01:41:07",
      "content": "<p>So big gap with other teams, you make a amazing work. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "So big gap with other teams, you make a amazing work.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479155",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 01:49:34",
      "content": "<p>The outliers were really difficult to deal with, but, anyway, you did a great work!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The outliers were really difficult to deal with, but, anyway, you did a great work!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479485",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 07:28:43",
      "content": "<p>Congratulations <a href=\"/petersk20\">@petersk20</a> for getting your first medal.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Congratulations @petersk20 for getting your first medal.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "479489",
      "postDate": "02/27/2019 07:31:20",
      "content": "<p>You did really an amazing work <a href=\"/jingobox\">@jingobox</a>. You deserve a medal, always it is the best option to select two submissions with high CV and high LB.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "You did really an amazing work @jingobox. You deserve a medal, always it is the best option to select two submissions with high CV and high LB.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 479072,
      "author_name": "sreeedevi",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/27/2019 00:43:17",
      "content": "<p>There's a Shake up! Some top teams disappeared.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 479095,
      "author_name": "jmourad100",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/27/2019 00:56:59",
      "content": "<p>That depends on the distribution of data in the train and test(hidden) data. \nif they have the same distribution, all goes well.\notherwise, there will be a big change between the public and private LB.</p>\n\n<p>That's why Kaggle permit that you select two kernels for Your final score.\nSo select one that gives a good public score ie where you trust the public LB\nand another one that gives a good CV score because the CV score is more reliable if data changes.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 479107,
      "author_name": "harangdev",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/27/2019 01:08:46",
      "content": "<p>Yeah, there were too much shake ups. I wonder how some of the top teams at the public leaderboard managed to stay on top in the private leaderboard. Looking forward for their strategies that made robust submissions.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 479115,
      "author_name": "jingobox",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/27/2019 01:17:00",
      "content": "<p>It so happened that I didn't really trust CV, for which I was punished.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 479146,
          "author_name": "codlife",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "02/27/2019 01:41:07",
          "content": "<p>So big gap with other teams, you make a amazing work. </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 479155,
          "author_name": "rmazzine",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "02/27/2019 01:49:34",
          "content": "<p>The outliers were really difficult to deal with, but, anyway, you did a great work!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 479489,
          "author_name": "karthik7395",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "02/27/2019 07:31:20",
          "content": "<p>You did really an amazing work <a href=\"/jingobox\">@jingobox</a>. You deserve a medal, always it is the best option to select two submissions with high CV and high LB.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 479485,
      "author_name": "karthik7395",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/27/2019 07:28:43",
      "content": "<p>Congratulations <a href=\"/petersk20\">@petersk20</a> for getting your first medal.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "479070": "This is my first Kaggle competition so I want to know if the drastic changes between the public and private leader board are normal for a kaggle competition.  I'm thinking that the change may be abnormal due to the number of outliers.",
    "479072": "There's a Shake up! Some top teams disappeared.",
    "479095": "That depends on the distribution of data in the train and test(hidden) data. \nif they have the same distribution, all goes well.\notherwise, there will be a big change between the public and private LB.\n\nThat's why Kaggle permit that you select two kernels for Your final score.\nSo select one that gives a good public score ie where you trust the public LB\nand another one that gives a good CV score because the CV score is more reliable if data changes.",
    "479107": "Yeah, there were too much shake ups. I wonder how some of the top teams at the public leaderboard managed to stay on top in the private leaderboard. Looking forward for their strategies that made robust submissions.",
    "479115": "It so happened that I didn't really trust CV, for which I was punished.",
    "479146": "So big gap with other teams, you make a amazing work.",
    "479155": "The outliers were really difficult to deal with, but, anyway, you did a great work!",
    "479485": "Congratulations @petersk20 for getting your first medal.",
    "479489": "You did really an amazing work @jingobox. You deserve a medal, always it is the best option to select two submissions with high CV and high LB."
  },
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}