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  "id": 13918,
  "title": "Field Auction",
  "url": "/competitions/facebook-recruiting-iv-human-or-bot/discussion/13918",
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  "post_date": "2015-05-01T10:38:59.730Z",
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  "content": "<p>Greetings,</p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; What is the exact meaning of field &quot;Auction&quot;, looks to me more like an auctioning platform rather than an Auction of a particular product. Reason is same Auction has multiple &quot;Merchandise&quot; associated with it&nbsp;</p>\n\n<p>Regards,</p>\n<p>Sanjeev</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/01/2015 10:38:59",
      "content": "<p>Greetings,</p>\n<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; What is the exact meaning of field &quot;Auction&quot;, looks to me more like an auctioning platform rather than an Auction of a particular product. Reason is same Auction has multiple &quot;Merchandise&quot; associated with it&nbsp;</p>\n\n<p>Regards,</p>\n<p>Sanjeev</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/01/2015 15:14:34",
      "content": "<p>Wanted to ask precisely the same thing. A very big percentage of the bids.csv file (537347 entries) consists of data for just a single auction with all possible merchandise types (edit: except for auto parts).</p>\n<p>So, does auction mean &quot;unique identifier for auction site&quot;? If not, how should we interpret it?</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/03/2015 19:25:16",
      "content": "<p>It could mean that&nbsp;the same product fall under multiple&nbsp;&quot;Merchandise&quot; categories.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/03/2015 19:31:37",
      "content": "<p>it could be multiple products being sold in one auction...there is no product ID; so no need to assume that each auction is only 1 product. Maybe auction-merchandise pair could be a single product.</p>\n<p>Then again the curious thing about bidders restricted to only 1 merchandise; but i think that is an artifact of incorrect data sampling and release than an actual pattern.</p>\n<p>This apart; the problem of identifying automated bidders is inherently easy as the AUC's approach an almost perfect classifier.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Any more seems to be hill climbing; my CV scores based on the random seed vary largely; i suspect that the top 10 ranking of the private leaderboard may change a lot as the dataset is small - only 4700- and 30% only used for the public leaderboard.</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/03/2015 19:52:02",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Venkatesh;76405]</p>\n<p>It could mean that&nbsp;the same product fall under multiple&nbsp;&quot;Merchandise&quot; categories.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>I'd really love to buy an auto parts, clothing, mobile &amp; furniture item.</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/03/2015 19:59:56",
      "content": "<p>Let me know if you find one. I know some of them doesn't make sense. But it could be. For example: a smart watch could be listed under&nbsp;electronics,&nbsp;Jewelry, mobile, sporting good, fashion, etc.</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/03/2015 20:04:29",
      "content": "<p>This is the same issue discussed in&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.kaggle.com/c/facebook-recruiting-iv-human-or-bot/forums/t/13823/unique-identifier-of-auction-should-be-one-item-right\">this thread</a>. To me the merchandise category seems wrong, because of the two points people have made: 1) bidders have only one merchandise category, and 2) many auctions have a lot of categories.</p>\n<p>I'm hoping one of the admins weighs in soon.</p>",
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      "author_name": "rinzewind",
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      "post_date": "05/01/2015 15:14:34",
      "content": "<p>Wanted to ask precisely the same thing. A very big percentage of the bids.csv file (537347 entries) consists of data for just a single auction with all possible merchandise types (edit: except for auto parts).</p>\n<p>So, does auction mean &quot;unique identifier for auction site&quot;? If not, how should we interpret it?</p>",
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      "post_date": "05/03/2015 19:25:16",
      "content": "<p>It could mean that&nbsp;the same product fall under multiple&nbsp;&quot;Merchandise&quot; categories.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "karansarao",
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      "post_date": "05/03/2015 19:31:37",
      "content": "<p>it could be multiple products being sold in one auction...there is no product ID; so no need to assume that each auction is only 1 product. Maybe auction-merchandise pair could be a single product.</p>\n<p>Then again the curious thing about bidders restricted to only 1 merchandise; but i think that is an artifact of incorrect data sampling and release than an actual pattern.</p>\n<p>This apart; the problem of identifying automated bidders is inherently easy as the AUC's approach an almost perfect classifier.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Any more seems to be hill climbing; my CV scores based on the random seed vary largely; i suspect that the top 10 ranking of the private leaderboard may change a lot as the dataset is small - only 4700- and 30% only used for the public leaderboard.</p>",
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      "id": 76409,
      "author_name": "rinzewind",
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      "post_date": "05/03/2015 19:52:02",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Venkatesh;76405]</p>\n<p>It could mean that&nbsp;the same product fall under multiple&nbsp;&quot;Merchandise&quot; categories.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>I'd really love to buy an auto parts, clothing, mobile &amp; furniture item.</p>",
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      "author_name": "pappakrishnan",
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      "post_date": "05/03/2015 19:59:56",
      "content": "<p>Let me know if you find one. I know some of them doesn't make sense. But it could be. For example: a smart watch could be listed under&nbsp;electronics,&nbsp;Jewelry, mobile, sporting good, fashion, etc.</p>",
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      "author_name": "chotch",
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      "post_date": "05/03/2015 20:04:29",
      "content": "<p>This is the same issue discussed in&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.kaggle.com/c/facebook-recruiting-iv-human-or-bot/forums/t/13823/unique-identifier-of-auction-should-be-one-item-right\">this thread</a>. To me the merchandise category seems wrong, because of the two points people have made: 1) bidders have only one merchandise category, and 2) many auctions have a lot of categories.</p>\n<p>I'm hoping one of the admins weighs in soon.</p>",
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