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  "title": "Welcome",
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  "post_date": "2013-12-21T04:51:03.183Z",
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  "content": "<p>Hi everyone,</p>\n<p>My name's Kyle Willett; I'm a postdoctoral research associate working in physics/astronomy at the University of Minnesota. I've been doing much of the work in reducing and analyzing the data for Galaxy Zoo and for this project. I and the rest of the science team are really keen to see how your solutions do compared to both the crowdsourced votes and what's considered state-of-the-art for astronomy.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>I'll do my best to answer any questions about the data, especially related to the decision tree or the weighting (which is straightforward, but a bit complicated). Best of luck!</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>- Kyle</p>",
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      "id": "36449",
      "postDate": "12/21/2013 04:51:03",
      "content": "<p>Hi everyone,</p>\n<p>My name's Kyle Willett; I'm a postdoctoral research associate working in physics/astronomy at the University of Minnesota. I've been doing much of the work in reducing and analyzing the data for Galaxy Zoo and for this project. I and the rest of the science team are really keen to see how your solutions do compared to both the crowdsourced votes and what's considered state-of-the-art for astronomy.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>I'll do my best to answer any questions about the data, especially related to the decision tree or the weighting (which is straightforward, but a bit complicated). Best of luck!</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>- Kyle</p>",
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      "id": "36629",
      "postDate": "12/24/2013 13:44:18",
      "content": "<p>I'm looking much forward to join this competition. I've done a bunch of manual classifications for GalaxyZoo in the past and it's nice to make an automated attempt to the same job.</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/24/2013 16:03:27",
      "content": "<p>Have there been done benchmarks on similar (or the same) data sets?</p>\n<p>What is the state-of-the-art RMSE to beat?</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/24/2013 16:06:02",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Triskelion;36633]</p>\n<p>Have there been done benchmarks on similar (or the same) data sets?</p>\n<p>What is the state-of-the-art RMSE to beat?</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Yes, some papers would be great</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/26/2013 22:33:20",
      "content": "<p>Specific RMSE benchmarks for the dataset are not widely available to my knowledge (due to the reformatting of the probabilities that we've done for this dataset). Good papers that discuss the problem of image recognition for these variables are:</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Banerji et al. (2010):&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.2033 (<em>this discusses Galaxy Zoo, although with many fewer categories than the Kaggle data set</em>)</p>\n<p>Huertas-Company et al. (2007,2011):&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359 and&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/27/2013 03:02:56",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Kyle Willett;36678]</p>\n<p>Huertas-Company et al. (2007,2011):&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359 and&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>It looks like you accidentally linked to the first paper twice. Was this one the intended second paper? <a href=\"http://arxiv.org/abs/1010.3018\">http://arxiv.org/abs/1010.3018</a></p>",
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      "id": "36684",
      "postDate": "12/27/2013 03:11:58",
      "content": "<p>Yep! Thanks for the catch.</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/28/2013 14:44:59",
      "content": "<p>Can we assume that all images are prepared as described in the 'Galaxy Zoo 2' paper? (i.e. http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.3496 )</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>In particular some of the other papers imply that color information is important, so it would be helpful to know the relation between the RGB values in the JPEG files and the actual measurements.</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/28/2013 20:20:58",
      "content": "<p>Yes - the images are the same used as described in the Galaxy Zoo 2 paper, Section 2.2. Note that JPG images (as many of you know) don't preserve flux between different bands in the same way that a TIFF or FITS image would, though. As a result, using the colors and total flux don't perfectly correspond to the true number of photons measured by the telescope in each band.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "postDate": "01/08/2014 15:43:23",
      "content": "<p>Hi, just wanted to check that I understand the papers correctly: is it true that many of the features they use (e.g. features related to petrosian flux) are not available to us in this data set? &nbsp;And it is prohibited or impossible to try to join that data from the original Galaxy Zoo/SDSS dataset with the competition dataset?</p>",
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      "postDate": "01/08/2014 15:46:58",
      "content": "<p>That's correct - for this competition, we are focusing on the morphological features used in the compressed JPEG images alone (from which Petrosian flux can't be reconstructed). The goal is to see how algorithms reproduce visual classifications from Galaxy Zoo. Adding metadata might indeed produce more accurate solutions in the long run, but it's not what we're concentrating on right now.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "frin63",
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      "post_date": "12/24/2013 13:44:18",
      "content": "<p>I'm looking much forward to join this competition. I've done a bunch of manual classifications for GalaxyZoo in the past and it's nice to make an automated attempt to the same job.</p>",
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      "id": 36633,
      "author_name": "triskelion",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/24/2013 16:03:27",
      "content": "<p>Have there been done benchmarks on similar (or the same) data sets?</p>\n<p>What is the state-of-the-art RMSE to beat?</p>",
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      "author_name": "abhishek",
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      "post_date": "12/24/2013 16:06:02",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Triskelion;36633]</p>\n<p>Have there been done benchmarks on similar (or the same) data sets?</p>\n<p>What is the state-of-the-art RMSE to beat?</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Yes, some papers would be great</p>",
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      "author_name": "willettk",
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      "post_date": "12/26/2013 22:33:20",
      "content": "<p>Specific RMSE benchmarks for the dataset are not widely available to my knowledge (due to the reformatting of the probabilities that we've done for this dataset). Good papers that discuss the problem of image recognition for these variables are:</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>Banerji et al. (2010):&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.2033 (<em>this discusses Galaxy Zoo, although with many fewer categories than the Kaggle data set</em>)</p>\n<p>Huertas-Company et al. (2007,2011):&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359 and&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359</p>",
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      "author_name": "",
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      "post_date": "12/27/2013 03:02:56",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Kyle Willett;36678]</p>\n<p>Huertas-Company et al. (2007,2011):&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359 and&nbsp;http://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1359</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>It looks like you accidentally linked to the first paper twice. Was this one the intended second paper? <a href=\"http://arxiv.org/abs/1010.3018\">http://arxiv.org/abs/1010.3018</a></p>",
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      "author_name": "willettk",
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      "post_date": "12/27/2013 03:11:58",
      "content": "<p>Yep! Thanks for the catch.</p>",
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      "author_name": "rdokov",
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      "post_date": "12/28/2013 14:44:59",
      "content": "<p>Can we assume that all images are prepared as described in the 'Galaxy Zoo 2' paper? (i.e. http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.3496 )</p>\n<p>&nbsp;</p>\n<p>In particular some of the other papers imply that color information is important, so it would be helpful to know the relation between the RGB values in the JPEG files and the actual measurements.</p>",
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      "author_name": "willettk",
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      "post_date": "12/28/2013 20:20:58",
      "content": "<p>Yes - the images are the same used as described in the Galaxy Zoo 2 paper, Section 2.2. Note that JPG images (as many of you know) don't preserve flux between different bands in the same way that a TIFF or FITS image would, though. As a result, using the colors and total flux don't perfectly correspond to the true number of photons measured by the telescope in each band.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "post_date": "01/08/2014 15:43:23",
      "content": "<p>Hi, just wanted to check that I understand the papers correctly: is it true that many of the features they use (e.g. features related to petrosian flux) are not available to us in this data set? &nbsp;And it is prohibited or impossible to try to join that data from the original Galaxy Zoo/SDSS dataset with the competition dataset?</p>",
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      "post_date": "01/08/2014 15:46:58",
      "content": "<p>That's correct - for this competition, we are focusing on the morphological features used in the compressed JPEG images alone (from which Petrosian flux can't be reconstructed). The goal is to see how algorithms reproduce visual classifications from Galaxy Zoo. Adding metadata might indeed produce more accurate solutions in the long run, but it's not what we're concentrating on right now.&nbsp;</p>",
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