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  "id": 7558,
  "title": "Restore g, r, and i-band images from JPG files?",
  "url": "/competitions/galaxy-zoo-the-galaxy-challenge/discussion/7558",
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  "post_date": "2014-03-31T04:47:30.793Z",
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  "content": "<p>Hi, I am reading the original Galaxy Zoo paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/0908.2033v2.pdf), where the authors train a neural network and achieve better than 90% accuracy in distinguishing smooth galaxies from galaxies with feature/disks.</p>\n<p>I am very interested in the input parameters they use. They use some quite complicated parameters, including (g-r) color, (r-i) color,&nbsp;de Vaucouleurs &#64257;t axis ratio,&nbsp;Exponential &#64257;t axis ratio, etc.&nbsp;However, these features use g, r, and i-band images, which I am not sure if we can restore from the JPG images provided to us.</p>\n<p>In case you don't know, they are images captured through SDSS telescope's filters. I just learned that from here:&nbsp;http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr1/en/proj/advanced/color/definition.asp.</p>\n<p>If these images are useful, as proved in the paper, and cannot be restored from JPGs, why can't we have them too? It's kind of unfair since the original paper used them and described them as &quot;used extensively in the literature for morphological classification in the SDSS&quot;.</p>",
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      "postDate": "03/31/2014 04:47:30",
      "content": "<p>Hi, I am reading the original Galaxy Zoo paper (http://arxiv.org/pdf/0908.2033v2.pdf), where the authors train a neural network and achieve better than 90% accuracy in distinguishing smooth galaxies from galaxies with feature/disks.</p>\n<p>I am very interested in the input parameters they use. They use some quite complicated parameters, including (g-r) color, (r-i) color,&nbsp;de Vaucouleurs &#64257;t axis ratio,&nbsp;Exponential &#64257;t axis ratio, etc.&nbsp;However, these features use g, r, and i-band images, which I am not sure if we can restore from the JPG images provided to us.</p>\n<p>In case you don't know, they are images captured through SDSS telescope's filters. I just learned that from here:&nbsp;http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr1/en/proj/advanced/color/definition.asp.</p>\n<p>If these images are useful, as proved in the paper, and cannot be restored from JPGs, why can't we have them too? It's kind of unfair since the original paper used them and described them as &quot;used extensively in the literature for morphological classification in the SDSS&quot;.</p>",
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      "id": "41240",
      "postDate": "03/31/2014 16:26:44",
      "content": "<p>Hi,</p>\n<p>There's a great deal of information in these images; because of the lack of compression artifacts and (more importantly) the preservation of physical flux as pixel values in these images, these single band images are what are most commonly used as the data sources for astronomers. However, the specific goal for this project is to try and reproduce the classifications made by the human volunteers in Galaxy Zoo 2; these classifications used the color composite JPGs, not the single band images. Using this additional information might indeed potentially improve the accuracy of a classification, but we're focused for this specific challenge on pure image analysis of the color images and seeing if we can replicate and analyze the identification processes of the human brain.</p>\n\n<p>- Kyle</p>",
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      "id": 41240,
      "author_name": "willettk",
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      "post_date": "03/31/2014 16:26:44",
      "content": "<p>Hi,</p>\n<p>There's a great deal of information in these images; because of the lack of compression artifacts and (more importantly) the preservation of physical flux as pixel values in these images, these single band images are what are most commonly used as the data sources for astronomers. However, the specific goal for this project is to try and reproduce the classifications made by the human volunteers in Galaxy Zoo 2; these classifications used the color composite JPGs, not the single band images. Using this additional information might indeed potentially improve the accuracy of a classification, but we're focused for this specific challenge on pure image analysis of the color images and seeing if we can replicate and analyze the identification processes of the human brain.</p>\n\n<p>- Kyle</p>",
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