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  "id": 151768,
  "title": "How were the test data splitted ?",
  "url": "/competitions/global-wheat-detection/discussion/151768",
  "author_name": "nvnn",
  "post_date": "2020-05-17T00:53:41.736000",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 3,
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  "content": "<p>According to the <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.02162.pdf\">paper</a>, The test data are from 4 sources: UTokyo_1 (994 images), UTokyo_2 (120 images), UQ_1 (142 images) and NAU_1 (20 images). \nPublic/private test data = 0.62/0.38. \nIf I were the organizer, I would use 867 images from UTokyo_1 for the public LB and the rest for private LB.  If that is the case, then the private test data includes images from 4 sources and the private score will be much different comparing to public LB score.</p>\n\n<p>How to verify my assumption?\nI was thinking of LB probing. I will make 2 submissions, the first submission will make prediction for all the test data and the second submission only predict UTokyo_1 source. If 2 submissions produce the same public LB score, then my assumption is correct. </p>\n\n<p>In order probe LB, we need to discriminate UTokyo_1 from others, do you have any suggestion to to this?</p>",
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      "id": 850735,
      "postDate": "2020-05-17T00:53:41.737Z",
      "content": "<p>According to the <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.02162.pdf\">paper</a>, The test data are from 4 sources: UTokyo_1 (994 images), UTokyo_2 (120 images), UQ_1 (142 images) and NAU_1 (20 images). \nPublic/private test data = 0.62/0.38. \nIf I were the organizer, I would use 867 images from UTokyo_1 for the public LB and the rest for private LB.  If that is the case, then the private test data includes images from 4 sources and the private score will be much different comparing to public LB score.</p>\n\n<p>How to verify my assumption?\nI was thinking of LB probing. I will make 2 submissions, the first submission will make prediction for all the test data and the second submission only predict UTokyo_1 source. If 2 submissions produce the same public LB score, then my assumption is correct. </p>\n\n<p>In order probe LB, we need to discriminate UTokyo_1 from others, do you have any suggestion to to this?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "According to the [paper](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.02162.pdf), The test data are from 4 sources: UTokyo_1 (994 images), UTokyo_2 (120 images), UQ_1 (142 images) and NAU_1 (20 images). \nPublic/private test data = 0.62/0.38. \nIf I were the organizer, I would use 867 images from UTokyo_1 for the public LB and the rest for private LB.  If that is the case, then the private test data includes images from 4 sources and the private score will be much different comparing to public LB score.\n\nHow to verify my assumption?\nI was thinking of LB probing. I will make 2 submissions, the first submission will make prediction for all the test data and the second submission only predict UTokyo_1 source. If 2 submissions produce the same public LB score, then my assumption is correct. \n\nIn order probe LB, we need to discriminate UTokyo_1 from others, do you have any suggestion to to this?",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 850866,
      "postDate": "2020-05-17T05:08:29.050Z",
      "content": "<p>I guess you'd need extra output to your NN that is categorical ground truth (one hot encoding) but then you'd your metrics and loss (softmax) </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I guess you'd need extra output to your NN that is categorical ground truth (one hot encoding) but then you'd your metrics and loss (softmax) ",
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      "id": 862975,
      "postDate": "2020-05-27T01:55:31.693Z",
      "content": "<p>Good point, but I think it's challenging to predict only UTokyo_1 images, given that you can't infer the source from the filename. I'm pretty sure that the LB is only UTokyo_1 images looking at the CV/source and LB performance.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Good point, but I think it's challenging to predict only UTokyo_1 images, given that you can't infer the source from the filename. I'm pretty sure that the LB is only UTokyo_1 images looking at the CV/source and LB performance.",
      "votes": 2,
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          "id": 863099,
          "postDate": "2020-05-27T04:28:04.977Z",
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      "id": 850866,
      "author_name": "mjsML",
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      "post_date": "2020-05-17T05:08:29.050000",
      "content": "<p>I guess you'd need extra output to your NN that is categorical ground truth (one hot encoding) but then you'd your metrics and loss (softmax) </p>",
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      "id": 862975,
      "author_name": "arutema47",
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      "post_date": "2020-05-27T01:55:31.693000",
      "content": "<p>Good point, but I think it's challenging to predict only UTokyo_1 images, given that you can't infer the source from the filename. I'm pretty sure that the LB is only UTokyo_1 images looking at the CV/source and LB performance.</p>",
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          "post_date": "2020-05-27T04:28:04.977000",
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    "850735": "According to the [paper](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.02162.pdf), The test data are from 4 sources: UTokyo_1 (994 images), UTokyo_2 (120 images), UQ_1 (142 images) and NAU_1 (20 images). \nPublic/private test data = 0.62/0.38. \nIf I were the organizer, I would use 867 images from UTokyo_1 for the public LB and the rest for private LB.  If that is the case, then the private test data includes images from 4 sources and the private score will be much different comparing to public LB score.\n\nHow to verify my assumption?\nI was thinking of LB probing. I will make 2 submissions, the first submission will make prediction for all the test data and the second submission only predict UTokyo_1 source. If 2 submissions produce the same public LB score, then my assumption is correct. \n\nIn order probe LB, we need to discriminate UTokyo_1 from others, do you have any suggestion to to this?",
    "850866": "I guess you'd need extra output to your NN that is categorical ground truth (one hot encoding) but then you'd your metrics and loss (softmax) ",
    "862975": "Good point, but I think it's challenging to predict only UTokyo_1 images, given that you can't infer the source from the filename. I'm pretty sure that the LB is only UTokyo_1 images looking at the CV/source and LB performance."
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