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  "id": 167298,
  "title": "Submission Compliance",
  "url": "/competitions/global-wheat-detection/discussion/167298",
  "author_name": "Ian Stavness",
  "post_date": "2020-07-16T01:19:07.956000",
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  "content": "<p>I would like to thank everyone for the active discussion about software licenses on the forum. In discussion with Kaggle, we would like to reiterate that all final submissions must be compliant with the Competition Rules. There are many commonly used permissive open source licenses (e.g., Apache 2.0, BSD 3.0, others) that are compatible with the MIT License and therefore are compliant with the Competition Rules. @rwightman provided an informative <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/167002\">post</a> with advice for making other permissive open source licenses compliant with the MIT License. More restrictive open source licenses (e.g., GPL 2.0, GPL 3.0, others with similar restrictive characteristics) are not compatible with the MIT License and therefore should not be used in final submissions. </p>\n\n<p>There have also been questions about the procedure that will be used to check compliance. After the final submissions, Kaggle will contact the top teams on the private leaderboard and they will be required to demonstrate that their solution is compliant with the Competition Rules. Submissions found to be non-compliant will be removed from the leaderboard.</p>",
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      "postDate": "2020-07-17T02:16:15.703Z",
      "content": "<p>\"Kaggle will contact the top teams on the private leaderboard and they will be required to demonstrate that their solution is compliant with the Competition Rules. Submissions found to be non-compliant will be removed from the leaderboard.\" </p>\n\n<p>This process will be terribly time consuming. They might check for the top 3 teams and next 3 teams and next 3 teams and over and over until 400 on leaderboard. Don't you think so? I am curious how the checking process proceeds in detail.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "\"Kaggle will contact the top teams on the private leaderboard and they will be required to demonstrate that their solution is compliant with the Competition Rules. Submissions found to be non-compliant will be removed from the leaderboard.\" \n\nThis process will be terribly time consuming. They might check for the top 3 teams and next 3 teams and next 3 teams and over and over until 400 on leaderboard. Don't you think so? I am curious how the checking process proceeds in detail.",
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      "postDate": "2020-07-16T01:19:07.957Z",
      "content": "<p>I would like to thank everyone for the active discussion about software licenses on the forum. In discussion with Kaggle, we would like to reiterate that all final submissions must be compliant with the Competition Rules. There are many commonly used permissive open source licenses (e.g., Apache 2.0, BSD 3.0, others) that are compatible with the MIT License and therefore are compliant with the Competition Rules. @rwightman provided an informative <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/167002\">post</a> with advice for making other permissive open source licenses compliant with the MIT License. More restrictive open source licenses (e.g., GPL 2.0, GPL 3.0, others with similar restrictive characteristics) are not compatible with the MIT License and therefore should not be used in final submissions. </p>\n\n<p>There have also been questions about the procedure that will be used to check compliance. After the final submissions, Kaggle will contact the top teams on the private leaderboard and they will be required to demonstrate that their solution is compliant with the Competition Rules. Submissions found to be non-compliant will be removed from the leaderboard.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I would like to thank everyone for the active discussion about software licenses on the forum. In discussion with Kaggle, we would like to reiterate that all final submissions must be compliant with the Competition Rules. There are many commonly used permissive open source licenses (e.g., Apache 2.0, BSD 3.0, others) that are compatible with the MIT License and therefore are compliant with the Competition Rules. @rwightman provided an informative [post](https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/167002) with advice for making other permissive open source licenses compliant with the MIT License. More restrictive open source licenses (e.g., GPL 2.0, GPL 3.0, others with similar restrictive characteristics) are not compatible with the MIT License and therefore should not be used in final submissions. \n\nThere have also been questions about the procedure that will be used to check compliance. After the final submissions, Kaggle will contact the top teams on the private leaderboard and they will be required to demonstrate that their solution is compliant with the Competition Rules. Submissions found to be non-compliant will be removed from the leaderboard.",
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      "postDate": "2020-07-16T01:45:48.567Z",
      "content": "<p>Hi Ian, could you help me confirm the definition of \"top teams\"? Does it refer to in the money? gold medal? silver medal? bronze medal? I hope to understand the definition more clearly. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi Ian, could you help me confirm the definition of \"top teams\"? Does it refer to in the money? gold medal? silver medal? bronze medal? I hope to understand the definition more clearly. ",
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      "postDate": "2020-07-16T01:24:08.433Z",
      "content": "<p>Thank you for clearing the air on this topic. Also, if competitors intend on using Apache 2.0 or other open source licensed software, check out <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/164845#923524\">this post</a> also by Ross on specifics guidelines that you may find helpful!</p>\n\n<p>Good luck to everyone in the competition. I understand many are upset by the licensing setback but let us all use it as an opportunity for learning and not let it happen to us again in the future!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for clearing the air on this topic. Also, if competitors intend on using Apache 2.0 or other open source licensed software, check out [this post](https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/164845#923524) also by Ross on specifics guidelines that you may find helpful!\n\nGood luck to everyone in the competition. I understand many are upset by the licensing setback but let us all use it as an opportunity for learning and not let it happen to us again in the future!",
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          "postDate": "2020-07-16T01:31:20.583Z",
          "content": "<p>Thank you for your helpful contributions to the discussions throughout the competition!</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for your helpful contributions to the discussions throughout the competition!",
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    {
      "id": 959066,
      "postDate": "2020-08-05T10:04:36.587Z",
      "content": "<p>When will the results be out and how will it be announced ? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "When will the results be out and how will it be announced ? ",
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      "id": 948691,
      "postDate": "2020-07-28T06:40:39.947Z",
      "content": "<p>How do I upload my submissions and get score? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "How do I upload my submissions and get score? ",
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          "postDate": "2020-08-05T10:08:19.817Z",
          "content": "<p>You can upload the subission.csv from the Submissions tab or directly throught the notebook which you used for the competition. After running the notebook check your \"output\" tab on the right side. There you can submit the csv. </p>\n\n<p>The competittion is now complete. So you wont be able to submit to the competition. You can however still submit and check your score. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "You can upload the subission.csv from the Submissions tab or directly throught the notebook which you used for the competition. After running the notebook check your \"output\" tab on the right side. There you can submit the csv. \n\nThe competittion is now complete. So you wont be able to submit to the competition. You can however still submit and check your score. ",
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          "postDate": "2020-08-05T14:49:42.977Z",
          "content": "<p>tks.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "tks."
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      "postDate": "2020-07-18T00:35:56.413Z",
      "content": "<p>Ok, so does that mean we cant use Yolov5? Are there implementations out there that are license compliant? You guys know?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Ok, so does that mean we cant use Yolov5? Are there implementations out there that are license compliant? You guys know?",
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          "postDate": "2020-07-18T03:31:17.613Z",
          "content": "<p>You can't use YoloV5 as it's under GPLv3. There's other yolo implementations like <a href=\"https://github.com/AlexeyAB/darknet\">Darknet</a> which is in the public domain and you can use.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "You can't use YoloV5 as it's under GPLv3. There's other yolo implementations like [Darknet](https://github.com/AlexeyAB/darknet) which is in the public domain and you can use.",
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      "id": 932069,
      "postDate": "2020-07-16T17:09:01.830Z",
      "content": "<p>A definição não ficou clara.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "A definição não ficou clara."
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      "postDate": "2020-07-16T03:42:04.903Z",
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          "postDate": "2020-07-17T16:14:45.817Z",
          "content": "<p>For clarity the rules were not changed, MIT compatible license was required the entire time. </p>",
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          "postDate": "2020-07-18T03:15:35.180Z",
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      "author_name": "Chanran Kim",
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      "post_date": "2020-07-17T02:16:15.703000",
      "content": "<p>\"Kaggle will contact the top teams on the private leaderboard and they will be required to demonstrate that their solution is compliant with the Competition Rules. Submissions found to be non-compliant will be removed from the leaderboard.\" </p>\n\n<p>This process will be terribly time consuming. They might check for the top 3 teams and next 3 teams and next 3 teams and over and over until 400 on leaderboard. Don't you think so? I am curious how the checking process proceeds in detail.</p>",
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      "post_date": "2020-07-16T01:45:48.567000",
      "content": "<p>Hi Ian, could you help me confirm the definition of \"top teams\"? Does it refer to in the money? gold medal? silver medal? bronze medal? I hope to understand the definition more clearly. </p>",
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      "post_date": "2020-07-16T01:24:08.433000",
      "content": "<p>Thank you for clearing the air on this topic. Also, if competitors intend on using Apache 2.0 or other open source licensed software, check out <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/global-wheat-detection/discussion/164845#923524\">this post</a> also by Ross on specifics guidelines that you may find helpful!</p>\n\n<p>Good luck to everyone in the competition. I understand many are upset by the licensing setback but let us all use it as an opportunity for learning and not let it happen to us again in the future!</p>",
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          "content": "<p>Thank you for your helpful contributions to the discussions throughout the competition!</p>",
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      "author_name": "f_propagator",
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      "author_name": "pohanlin",
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          "content": "<p>You can upload the subission.csv from the Submissions tab or directly throught the notebook which you used for the competition. After running the notebook check your \"output\" tab on the right side. There you can submit the csv. </p>\n\n<p>The competittion is now complete. So you wont be able to submit to the competition. You can however still submit and check your score. </p>",
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          "content": "<p>tks.</p>",
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      "author_name": "Bo Peng",
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      "content": "<p>Ok, so does that mean we cant use Yolov5? Are there implementations out there that are license compliant? You guys know?</p>",
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          "content": "<p>You can't use YoloV5 as it's under GPLv3. There's other yolo implementations like <a href=\"https://github.com/AlexeyAB/darknet\">Darknet</a> which is in the public domain and you can use.</p>",
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      "author_name": "Marcus Fabricio",
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      "post_date": "2020-07-16T17:09:01.830000",
      "content": "<p>A definição não ficou clara.</p>",
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          "content": "<p>For clarity the rules were not changed, MIT compatible license was required the entire time. </p>",
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