{
  "id": 130586,
  "title": "External Data/Pretrained Models Disclosure Thread",
  "url": "/competitions/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/130586",
  "author_name": "Addison Howard",
  "post_date": "2020-02-15T02:17:55.472000",
  "votes": 13,
  "comment_count": 46,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Post links to your external data sources here before the deadline specified in the rules. Once it has been posted, you do not need to post it again.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 746440,
      "postDate": "2020-02-15T02:17:55.473Z",
      "content": "<p>Post links to your external data sources here before the deadline specified in the rules. Once it has been posted, you do not need to post it again.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Post links to your external data sources here before the deadline specified in the rules. Once it has been posted, you do not need to post it again.",
      "votes": 13
    },
    {
      "id": 749663,
      "postDate": "2020-02-18T20:49:54.827Z",
      "content": "<p>Kenpom (<a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a>) 2002 - 2020\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020\">https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Kenpom (https://kenpom.com/) 2002 - 2020\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020",
      "votes": 7,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 753500,
          "postDate": "2020-02-22T09:34:03.247Z",
          "content": "<p>Great data set, thanks for sharing.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Great data set, thanks for sharing.",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 746905,
      "postDate": "2020-02-15T18:05:43.877Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://fivethirtyeight.com\">https://fivethirtyeight.com</a> available ncaa team rankings</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://fivethirtyeight.com available ncaa team rankings",
      "votes": 4
    },
    {
      "id": 763871,
      "postDate": "2020-03-04T23:20:56.583Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/discussion/81346\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/discussion/81346</a> </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/discussion/81346 ",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 754702,
      "postDate": "2020-02-24T00:20:22.523Z",
      "content": "<p>using <a href=\"http://thepredictiontracker.com/ncaaresults.php\">http://thepredictiontracker.com/ncaaresults.php</a>\nyears 2003-&gt;2019</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "using http://thepredictiontracker.com/ncaaresults.php\nyears 2003-&gt;2019",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 761669,
          "postDate": "2020-03-02T20:43:39.823Z",
          "content": "<p>Have you found a file that includes tournament games for 2019? </p>\n\n<p>The 2019 file I have here includes all games besides the tournament: <a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Point%20spreads/ncaabb18.csv\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Point%20spreads/ncaabb18.csv</a> </p>\n\n<p>The file on this website for 2018-2019 (<a href=\"http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv\">http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv</a>) is only November 2019 games, which does not make any sense (it should be 2018-2019 including 2019 March Madness games). </p>\n\n<p>Not a big deal, but it would be nice to see how 2019 first round games perform with the line as a feature. I didn't use lines last year, but am thinking about incorporating them this year.</p>\n\n<p>EDIT: I reached out to the owner of the website to alert them of the issue. Will keep you posted.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Have you found a file that includes tournament games for 2019? \n\nThe 2019 file I have here includes all games besides the tournament: https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Point%20spreads/ncaabb18.csv \n\nThe file on this website for 2018-2019 (http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv) is only November 2019 games, which does not make any sense (it should be 2018-2019 including 2019 March Madness games). \n\nNot a big deal, but it would be nice to see how 2019 first round games perform with the line as a feature. I didn't use lines last year, but am thinking about incorporating them this year.\n\nEDIT: I reached out to the owner of the website to alert them of the issue. Will keep you posted."
        },
        {
          "id": 765393,
          "postDate": "2020-03-06T15:18:36.023Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv\">http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv</a> appears to be fixed now! It has all games through the UVA v Texas Tech championship.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv appears to be fixed now! It has all games through the UVA v Texas Tech championship."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 747169,
      "postDate": "2020-02-16T04:06:05.313Z",
      "content": "<p>I am planning to use the following external data in addition to the ones mentioned above by others.</p>\n\n<p>RSCI rankings from <a href=\"https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/recruit_rankings_2018.html\">Basketball Reference</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am planning to use the following external data in addition to the ones mentioned above by others.\n\nRSCI rankings from [Basketball Reference](https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/recruit_rankings_2018.html)",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 746782,
      "postDate": "2020-02-15T14:44:42.087Z",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> publicly available stats for the team</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll be using https://kenpom.com/ publicly available stats for the team",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 747102,
          "postDate": "2020-02-16T00:52:54.290Z",
          "content": "<p>Planning to use those as well...word on the street is they're good.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Planning to use those as well...word on the street is they're good."
        },
        {
          "id": 747628,
          "postDate": "2020-02-16T17:00:35.920Z",
          "content": "<p>Looking at the \"Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings\" pages. I see they go back to 02 which is great. Do we know if results include the NCAA tournament? </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Looking at the \"Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings\" pages. I see they go back to 02 which is great. Do we know if results include the NCAA tournament? ",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 749794,
          "postDate": "2020-02-18T22:46:01.663Z",
          "content": "<p>The historical Ken Pom stats include the NCAA tournament (e.g., 2019 UVA was 35-3 on Ken Pom but was 29-3 going into the tournament). Therefore, the stats could lead to overfitting. That said, I used them last year and they were an important feature.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "The historical Ken Pom stats include the NCAA tournament (e.g., 2019 UVA was 35-3 on Ken Pom but was 29-3 going into the tournament). Therefore, the stats could lead to overfitting. That said, I used them last year and they were an important feature.",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 749797,
          "postDate": "2020-02-18T22:53:34.827Z",
          "content": "<p>Here is a link to historical processing I used last year: <a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/02%20Prepare%20Ken%20Pom%20data.ipynb\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/02%20Prepare%20Ken%20Pom%20data.ipynb</a></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Here is a link to historical processing I used last year: https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/02%20Prepare%20Ken%20Pom%20data.ipynb",
          "votes": 3
        },
        {
          "id": 749852,
          "postDate": "2020-02-19T00:03:18.253Z",
          "content": "<p>After some digging, I came to the same realization. You're right that it could lead to overfitting. \nI did buy a subscription and I may use height/experience data. It shouldn't be impacted by the tournament given tournament results won't change it. But everything else looks like it leads to data leakage. </p>\n\n<p>Ken - if you're reading this, it would be really nice if a subscriber could split out NCAA tourny results from the aggregated data. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "After some digging, I came to the same realization. You're right that it could lead to overfitting. \nI did buy a subscription and I may use height/experience data. It shouldn't be impacted by the tournament given tournament results won't change it. But everything else looks like it leads to data leakage. \n\nKen - if you're reading this, it would be really nice if a subscriber could split out NCAA tourny results from the aggregated data. ",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 749895,
          "postDate": "2020-02-19T01:35:52.240Z",
          "content": "<p>I knew it was too good to be true! Thanks for the info. I'll keep digging.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I knew it was too good to be true! Thanks for the info. I'll keep digging."
        },
        {
          "id": 750498,
          "postDate": "2020-02-19T12:50:29.960Z",
          "content": "<p>And versions of that obtained from archive.org.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "And versions of that obtained from archive.org."
        },
        {
          "id": 754749,
          "postDate": "2020-02-24T02:20:49.190Z",
          "rawMarkdown": "",
          "votes": 1,
          "isDeleted": true
        },
        {
          "id": 761665,
          "postDate": "2020-03-02T20:38:07.527Z",
          "content": "<p>As Limited Release stated, you can download the page prior to the tournament started via wayback machine to avoid leakage. I linked the pre-tourney Ken Pom stats below. I haven't yet processed these or incorporated them into a model to evaluate the CV performance.</p>\n\n<p>2019 (already pulled last year's previously):\n<a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Ken%20Pom/KP2019_final.csv\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Ken%20Pom/KP2019_final.csv</a></p>\n\n<p>2018:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180311122559/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180311122559/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2017:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170312131016/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170312131016/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2016:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160314134726/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160314134726/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2015:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150316212936/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150316212936/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2014:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20140318100454/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20140318100454/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2013:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130318221134/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130318221134/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2012:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120311165019/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120311165019/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2011:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110311233233/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110311233233/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2010:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20100304023540/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20100304023540/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2009:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090315085050/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090315085050/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2008 and prior TBD. </p>\n\n<p>You can see, for example, in 2017 the Adj EM did not change much before and after the tournament. There was a drop for UVA when they barely won in the first round (76-71 v UNC Wilmington) and lost in the second round 65-39 to Florida. FSU also experienced a drop, losing in the second round to Xavier 91-66. <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball-men/d1/2017\">https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball-men/d1/2017</a></p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F2280345%2F7c587cea0ddf72a75b0559cb2da878aa%2FCapture.PNG?generation=1583183160614914&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "As Limited Release stated, you can download the page prior to the tournament started via wayback machine to avoid leakage. I linked the pre-tourney Ken Pom stats below. I haven't yet processed these or incorporated them into a model to evaluate the CV performance.\n\n2019 (already pulled last year's previously):\nhttps://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Ken%20Pom/KP2019_final.csv\n\n2018:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20180311122559/https://kenpom.com/\n\n2017:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170312131016/http://kenpom.com/\n\n2016:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20160314134726/http://kenpom.com/\n\n2015:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20150316212936/http://kenpom.com/\n\n2014:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20140318100454/http://kenpom.com/\n\n2013:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130318221134/http://kenpom.com/\n\n2012:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120311165019/http://kenpom.com/\n\n2011:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20110311233233/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2010:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20100304023540/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\n\n2009:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20090315085050/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\n\n2008 and prior TBD. \n\nYou can see, for example, in 2017 the Adj EM did not change much before and after the tournament. There was a drop for UVA when they barely won in the first round (76-71 v UNC Wilmington) and lost in the second round 65-39 to Florida. FSU also experienced a drop, losing in the second round to Xavier 91-66. https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball-men/d1/2017\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F2280345%2F7c587cea0ddf72a75b0559cb2da878aa%2FCapture.PNG?generation=1583183160614914&amp;alt=media)\n",
          "votes": 5
        },
        {
          "id": 761710,
          "postDate": "2020-03-02T21:20:20.383Z",
          "content": "<p>Also remember that some people found the pre-tourney ratings were not as predictive as the late February ratings - might want to see if you can grab those too.  I am referring to the paper that was written by the winners of our first contest</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Also remember that some people found the pre-tourney ratings were not as predictive as the late February ratings - might want to see if you can grab those too.  I am referring to the paper that was written by the winners of our first contest",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 761745,
          "postDate": "2020-03-02T22:20:08.803Z",
          "content": "<p>Thanks, Jeff. Good point. I also posted links for mid and late February Ken Pom stats below. </p>\n\n<p>2/27/2019:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20190228115731/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20190228115731/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/17/2019:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20190218001956/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20190218001956/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2018:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180228100007/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180228100007/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/17/2018:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180218040511/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180218040511/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2017:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170228195241/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170228195241/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/19/2017:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170219233149/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170219233149/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/28/2016:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160229012814/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160229012814/http://kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2016:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160221141317/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160221141317/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2015:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150228131430/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150228131430/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2015:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150221034435/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150221034435/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2014:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20141001000000\">https://web.archive.org/web/20141001000000</a><em>/<a href=\"http://www.kenpom.com/\">http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2014:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20140601000000\">https://web.archive.org/web/20140601000000</a></em>/<a href=\"http://www.kenpom.com/\">http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/25/2013:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130225215355/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130225215355/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2013:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130501000000\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130501000000</a>*/<a href=\"http://www.kenpom.com/\">http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/26/2012:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120228043839/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120228043839/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/18/2012:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120219142755/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120219142755/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2011:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110228211802/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110228211802/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/22/2011:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110223230550/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110223230550/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>1/29/2010 (no later snapshots):\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20100131041129/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20100131041129/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2/16/2009:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090218011935/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090218011935/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2008:\nN/A</p>\n\n<p>2/15/2007:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20070216155122/http://kenpom.com/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20070216155122/http://kenpom.com/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2/7/2006:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20060209030049/http://www.kenpom.com/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20060209030049/http://www.kenpom.com/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2/9/2005:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20050213015719/http://kenpom.com/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20050213015719/http://kenpom.com/stats.php</a></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thanks, Jeff. Good point. I also posted links for mid and late February Ken Pom stats below. \n\n2/27/2019:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20190228115731/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/17/2019:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20190218001956/https://kenpom.com/\n\n2/27/2018:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20180228100007/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/17/2018:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20180218040511/https://kenpom.com/\n\n2/27/2017:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170228195241/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/19/2017:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170219233149/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2/28/2016:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20160229012814/http://kenpom.com/\n2/20/2016:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20160221141317/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2/27/2015:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20150228131430/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/20/2015:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20150221034435/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2/27/2014:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20141001000000*/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/20/2014:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20140601000000*/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2/25/2013:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130225215355/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/20/2013:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130501000000*/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2/26/2012:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120228043839/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/18/2012:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120219142755/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2/27/2011:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20110228211802/http://www.kenpom.com/\n2/22/2011:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20110223230550/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n1/29/2010 (no later snapshots):\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20100131041129/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\n\n2/16/2009:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20090218011935/http://www.kenpom.com/\n\n2008:\nN/A\n\n2/15/2007:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20070216155122/http://kenpom.com/stats.php\n\n2/7/2006:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20060209030049/http://www.kenpom.com/stats.php\n\n2/9/2005:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20050213015719/http://kenpom.com/stats.php\n\n"
        },
        {
          "id": 766836,
          "postDate": "2020-03-08T20:11:42.463Z",
          "content": "<p>The ken pom ratings pertaining to a specific set of games (e.g. only those pre-tournament) can be very closely recovered using only the kaggle-provided box score data. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "The ken pom ratings pertaining to a specific set of games (e.g. only those pre-tournament) can be very closely recovered using only the kaggle-provided box score data. "
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 769091,
      "postDate": "2020-03-11T14:21:28.640Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020\">https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020</a>   I may be using this in the final model.</p>\n\n<p>Unsure if the data here is made free in the website or paid. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020   I may be using this in the final model.\n\nUnsure if the data here is made free in the website or paid. "
    },
    {
      "id": 768444,
      "postDate": "2020-03-10T19:55:41.330Z",
      "content": "<p>CBS Sports Strength of Schedule\n<a href=\"https://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/sos/2016-17\">https://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/sos/2016-17</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "CBS Sports Strength of Schedule\nhttps://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/sos/2016-17\n"
    },
    {
      "id": 767965,
      "postDate": "2020-03-10T10:01:56.040Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/rounds\">https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/rounds</a>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/leaderboard\">https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/leaderboard</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/rounds\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/leaderboard"
    },
    {
      "id": 767280,
      "postDate": "2020-03-09T12:31:32.637Z",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> publicly available stats for the team</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll be using https://kenpom.com/ publicly available stats for the team"
    },
    {
      "id": 766439,
      "postDate": "2020-03-08T06:09:41.993Z",
      "content": "<p>All of the following including historical data and Wayback Machine archives if available\n(links from <a href=\"https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm\">https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm</a>)</p>\n\n<p>| Rating | Code | Link |\n|:------ |:----:|:---- | \n| Simmons | SMS | <a href=\"http://simmonsratings.com/\">http://simmonsratings.com/</a> | \n| B Wilson Empirical | BWE | <a href=\"http://waywardtrends.com/bryan/BWE/ncaabRankings.php\">http://waywardtrends.com/bryan/BWE/ncaabRankings.php</a> | \n| Whitlock | WLK | <a href=\"http://whitlockrankings.com/bbrank1.htm\">http://whitlockrankings.com/bbrank1.htm</a> | \n| Wobus MOV | WMV | <a href=\"http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballwmv.html\">http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballwmv.html</a> | \n| Donchess Inference | DII | <a href=\"http://www.dratings.com/\">http://www.dratings.com/</a> | \n| Ford AMSTS | FAS | <a href=\"https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings\">https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings</a> | \n| Sports Ratings | SPR | <a href=\"https://www.sports-ratings.com/basketball/\">https://www.sports-ratings.com/basketball/</a> | \n| Sport Theory | STH | <a href=\"http://kindoflost.com/college-basketball-ranking/\">http://kindoflost.com/college-basketball-ranking/</a> | \n| NCAA NET | NET | <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings\">https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings</a> | \n| Pomeroy | POM | <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> | \n| INCC Stats | INC | <a href=\"http://www.inccstats.com/basketball/2019-20/rankings.html\">http://www.inccstats.com/basketball/2019-20/rankings.html</a> | \n| Kislanko | KLK | <a href=\"http://basketball.kislanko.com/\">http://basketball.kislanko.com/</a> | \n| PiRate | PIR | <a href=\"http://piratings.wordpress.com/\">http://piratings.wordpress.com/</a> | \n| Davis | DAV | <a href=\"http://kurcc.com/rcc/dppi_ranking/DPPI.htm\">http://kurcc.com/rcc/dppi_ranking/DPPI.htm</a> | \n| Kirkpatrick | KPK | <a href=\"http://talismanred.com/ratings/ckhoops/\">http://talismanred.com/ratings/ckhoops/</a> | \n| Massey | MAS | <a href=\"https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings\">https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings</a> | \n| Round Robin Win % | RWP | <a href=\"https://teamranks.blogspot.com/\">https://teamranks.blogspot.com/</a> | \n| Self | SEL | <a href=\"https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jeffself/collegebasketballrankings/master/cbrank2020.txt\">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jeffself/collegebasketballrankings/master/cbrank2020.txt</a> | \n| Benz | BNZ | <a href=\"https://lbenz730.shinyapps.io/recspecs_basketball_central/\">https://lbenz730.shinyapps.io/recspecs_basketball_central/</a> | \n| Baker Bradley-Terry | BBT | <a href=\"http://dbaker.50webs.com/\">http://dbaker.50webs.com/</a> | \n| Bennett | BNT | <a href=\"https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball\">https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball</a> | \n| Dunkel | DUN | <a href=\"http://dunkelindex.com/\">http://dunkelindex.com/</a> | \n| ARGH | ARG | <a href=\"http://www.arghratings.com/\">http://www.arghratings.com/</a> | \n| Rothman | RTH | <a href=\"http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/rothman.txt\">http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/rothman.txt</a> | \n| The Power Rank | TPR | <a href=\"https://thepowerrank.com/2019/02/12/college-basketball-predictions-for-2019/\">https://thepowerrank.com/2019/02/12/college-basketball-predictions-for-2019/</a> | \n| Dokter Entropy | DOK | <a href=\"http://www.timetravelsports.com/colbb.html\">http://www.timetravelsports.com/colbb.html</a> | \n| Sagarin | SAG | <a href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/\">https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/</a> | \n| Bihl | BIH | <a href=\"http://jeffbihl.com/bwin.html\">http://jeffbihl.com/bwin.html</a> | \n| T-Rank | TRK | <a href=\"http://barttorvik.com/#\">http://barttorvik.com/#</a> | \n| Logan | LOG | <a href=\"http://loganssportsratings.blogspot.com/\">http://loganssportsratings.blogspot.com/</a> | \n| Mark Moog | MMG | <a href=\"http://www.markmoog.com/\">http://www.markmoog.com/</a> | \n| Pugh | PGH | <a href=\"http://www.compughterratings.com/CBB/rankings\">http://www.compughterratings.com/CBB/rankings</a> | \n| Dolphin | DOL | <a href=\"http://www.dolphinsim.com/ratings/ncaa_mbb/\">http://www.dolphinsim.com/ratings/ncaa_mbb/</a> | \n| TeamRankings Pred | TRP | <a href=\"http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other\">http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other</a> | \n| Lefevre | LEF | <a href=\"https://www.brianlefevre.com/ncaab-team-rankings/\">https://www.brianlefevre.com/ncaab-team-rankings/</a> | \n| Krach | KRA | <a href=\"http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballkrach.html\">http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballkrach.html</a> | \n| Cheong | CNG | <a href=\"http://www.raymondcheong.com/rankings/\">http://www.raymondcheong.com/rankings/</a> | \n| ESPN BPI | EBP | <a href=\"http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi\">http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi</a> | \n| Wobus | WOB | <a href=\"http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballrankings.html\">http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballrankings.html</a> | \n| Wilson | WIL | <a href=\"http://talismanred.com/ratings/hoops/\">http://talismanred.com/ratings/hoops/</a> | \n| LRMC | LMC | <a href=\"http://www.lrmc.gatech.edu/\">http://www.lrmc.gatech.edu/</a> | \n| Haslametrics | HAS | <a href=\"http://haslametrics.com/\">http://haslametrics.com/</a> | \n| Colley | COL | <a href=\"http://www.colleyrankings.com/\">http://www.colleyrankings.com/</a> | \n| Jelly Juke | JJK | <a href=\"http://www.jellyjuke.com/\">http://www.jellyjuke.com/</a> | \n| RoundTable | RT | <a href=\"http://www.rtsratings.com/\">http://www.rtsratings.com/</a> | \n| Forseth ERFunction | FSH | <a href=\"http://erikforseth.com/\">http://erikforseth.com/</a> | \n| Wolfe | WOL | <a href=\"http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/ratings.htm\">http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/ratings.htm</a> | \n| Joby Nitty Gritty | JNG | <a href=\"http://hoopshd.com/nitty-gritty-rankings/\">http://hoopshd.com/nitty-gritty-rankings/</a> | \n| ESPN SOR | ESR | /view/resume\"&gt;http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi//view/resume | \n| Moore | MOR | <a href=\"http://sonnymoorepowerratings.com/\">http://sonnymoorepowerratings.com/</a> | \n| TrueSkill | TS | <a href=\"https://trueskil.blogspot.com/\">https://trueskil.blogspot.com/</a> | \n| Rewards | REW | <a href=\"http://academics.smcvt.edu/jtrono/RewardNCAA_Bball.htm\">http://academics.smcvt.edu/jtrono/RewardNCAA_Bball.htm</a> | \n| Daniel Curry Index | DCI | <a href=\"http://dcindex-choop.blogspot.com/search/label/DCI%20Rank\">http://dcindex-choop.blogspot.com/search/label/DCI%20Rank</a> | \n| Seed Madness | SMN | <a href=\"http://www.seed-madness.com/\">http://www.seed-madness.com/</a> | \n| Stat Fox | SFX | <a href=\"http://www.statfox.com/cbb/power/\">http://www.statfox.com/cbb/power/</a> | \n| RT Power | RTP | <a href=\"http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_power_rankings_Full.html\">http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_power_rankings_Full.html</a> | \n| Pigskin | PIG | <a href=\"http://powerratings.com/cbasket.htm\">http://powerratings.com/cbasket.htm</a> | \n| Seven OT | 7OT | <a href=\"http://sevenovertimes.com/\">http://sevenovertimes.com/</a> | \n| Kyle Cox | KCX | <a href=\"http://kyle-cox.com/\">http://kyle-cox.com/</a> | \n| Mangels | MGS | <a href=\"http://aaronmangels.com/mangelscbb/\">http://aaronmangels.com/mangelscbb/</a> | \n| Associated Press | AP | <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press\">https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press</a> | \n| USA Today Coaches | USA | <a href=\"http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/\">http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/</a> | \n| DeSimone | DES | <a href=\"http://www.mikedesimone.com/top25b.htm\">http://www.mikedesimone.com/top25b.htm</a> | </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "All of the following including historical data and Wayback Machine archives if available\n(links from https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm)\n\n| Rating | Code | Link |\n|:------ |:----:|:---- | \n| Simmons | SMS | http://simmonsratings.com/ | \n| B Wilson Empirical | BWE | http://waywardtrends.com/bryan/BWE/ncaabRankings.php | \n| Whitlock | WLK | http://whitlockrankings.com/bbrank1.htm | \n| Wobus MOV | WMV | http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballwmv.html | \n| Donchess Inference | DII | http://www.dratings.com/ | \n| Ford AMSTS | FAS | https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings | \n| Sports Ratings | SPR | https://www.sports-ratings.com/basketball/ | \n| Sport Theory | STH | http://kindoflost.com/college-basketball-ranking/ | \n| NCAA NET | NET | https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings | \n| Pomeroy | POM | https://kenpom.com/ | \n| INCC Stats | INC | http://www.inccstats.com/basketball/2019-20/rankings.html | \n| Kislanko | KLK | http://basketball.kislanko.com/ | \n| PiRate | PIR | http://piratings.wordpress.com/ | \n| Davis | DAV | http://kurcc.com/rcc/dppi_ranking/DPPI.htm | \n| Kirkpatrick | KPK | http://talismanred.com/ratings/ckhoops/ | \n| Massey | MAS | https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings | \n| Round Robin Win % | RWP | https://teamranks.blogspot.com/ | \n| Self | SEL | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jeffself/collegebasketballrankings/master/cbrank2020.txt | \n| Benz | BNZ | https://lbenz730.shinyapps.io/recspecs_basketball_central/ | \n| Baker Bradley-Terry | BBT | http://dbaker.50webs.com/ | \n| Bennett | BNT | https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball | \n| Dunkel | DUN | http://dunkelindex.com/ | \n| ARGH | ARG | http://www.arghratings.com/ | \n| Rothman | RTH | http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/rothman.txt | \n| The Power Rank | TPR | https://thepowerrank.com/2019/02/12/college-basketball-predictions-for-2019/ | \n| Dokter Entropy | DOK | http://www.timetravelsports.com/colbb.html | \n| Sagarin | SAG | https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/ | \n| Bihl | BIH | http://jeffbihl.com/bwin.html | \n| T-Rank | TRK | http://barttorvik.com/# | \n| Logan | LOG | http://loganssportsratings.blogspot.com/ | \n| Mark Moog | MMG | http://www.markmoog.com/ | \n| Pugh | PGH | http://www.compughterratings.com/CBB/rankings | \n| Dolphin | DOL | http://www.dolphinsim.com/ratings/ncaa_mbb/ | \n| TeamRankings Pred | TRP | http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other | \n| Lefevre | LEF | https://www.brianlefevre.com/ncaab-team-rankings/ | \n| Krach | KRA | http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballkrach.html | \n| Cheong | CNG | http://www.raymondcheong.com/rankings/ | \n| ESPN BPI | EBP | http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi | \n| Wobus | WOB | http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballrankings.html | \n| Wilson | WIL | http://talismanred.com/ratings/hoops/ | \n| LRMC | LMC | http://www.lrmc.gatech.edu/ | \n| Haslametrics | HAS | http://haslametrics.com/ | \n| Colley | COL | http://www.colleyrankings.com/ | \n| Jelly Juke | JJK | http://www.jellyjuke.com/ | \n| RoundTable | RT | http://www.rtsratings.com/ | \n| Forseth ERFunction | FSH | http://erikforseth.com/ | \n| Wolfe | WOL | http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/ratings.htm | \n| Joby Nitty Gritty | JNG | http://hoopshd.com/nitty-gritty-rankings/ | \n| ESPN SOR | ESR | http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/resume | \n| Moore | MOR | http://sonnymoorepowerratings.com/ | \n| TrueSkill | TS | https://trueskil.blogspot.com/ | \n| Rewards | REW | http://academics.smcvt.edu/jtrono/RewardNCAA_Bball.htm | \n| Daniel Curry Index | DCI | http://dcindex-choop.blogspot.com/search/label/DCI%20Rank | \n| Seed Madness | SMN | http://www.seed-madness.com/ | \n| Stat Fox | SFX | http://www.statfox.com/cbb/power/ | \n| RT Power | RTP | http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_power_rankings_Full.html | \n| Pigskin | PIG | http://powerratings.com/cbasket.htm | \n| Seven OT | 7OT | http://sevenovertimes.com/ | \n| Kyle Cox | KCX | http://kyle-cox.com/ | \n| Mangels | MGS | http://aaronmangels.com/mangelscbb/ | \n| Associated Press | AP | https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press | \n| USA Today Coaches | USA | http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/ | \n| DeSimone | DES | http://www.mikedesimone.com/top25b.htm | "
    },
    {
      "id": 766059,
      "postDate": "2020-03-07T15:57:51.230Z",
      "content": "<p>Try to use KenPom data <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/index.php\">https://kenpom.com/index.php</a>.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Try to use KenPom data https://kenpom.com/index.php."
    },
    {
      "id": 765711,
      "postDate": "2020-03-07T01:44:38.930Z",
      "content": "<p>I'll also use play-by-play data from previous competitions (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data</a>), and may look to incorporate KenPom data (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data</a>)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll also use play-by-play data from previous competitions (https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data), and may look to incorporate KenPom data (https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data)"
    },
    {
      "id": 765497,
      "postDate": "2020-03-06T17:45:22.307Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.dratings.com/sports/ncaa-college-basketball-ratings/\">https://www.dratings.com/sports/ncaa-college-basketball-ratings/</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://www.dratings.com/sports/ncaa-college-basketball-ratings/"
    },
    {
      "id": 764784,
      "postDate": "2020-03-05T22:24:49.990Z",
      "content": "<p>In case it's important to mention, I am using the results from past years' competitions in local evaluations: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com\">https://www.kaggle.com</a> 😁 </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In case it's important to mention, I am using the results from past years' competitions in local evaluations: https://www.kaggle.com 😁 "
    },
    {
      "id": 764384,
      "postDate": "2020-03-05T12:07:23.780Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-march-madness-predictions/</a>\n<a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/</a>\n<a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-march-madness-predictions/</a>\n<a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-march-madness-predictions/</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-march-madness-predictions/\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-march-madness-predictions/\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-march-madness-predictions/"
    },
    {
      "id": 762737,
      "postDate": "2020-03-03T19:15:58.267Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.sportsbookreviewsonline.com/scoresoddsarchives/ncaabasketball/ncaabasketballoddsarchives.htm\">https://www.sportsbookreviewsonline.com/scoresoddsarchives/ncaabasketball/ncaabasketballoddsarchives.htm</a>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/lbenz730/ncaahoopR_data\">https://github.com/lbenz730/ncaahoopR_data</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://www.sportsbookreviewsonline.com/scoresoddsarchives/ncaabasketball/ncaabasketballoddsarchives.htm\nhttps://github.com/lbenz730/ncaahoopR_data"
    },
    {
      "id": 761867,
      "postDate": "2020-03-03T02:12:47.050Z",
      "content": "<p>On the Pomeroy pre-tournament results topic: As a follow up, I scoured the Wayback machine for a) results at end of Feb (or close) and b) years 2008 and before. What I found:</p>\n\n<p>2020\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20200229222149/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20200229222149/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2019\nCouldn't find anything! Recommend using Dave Lorenz' capture from before the tournament (in his post)</p>\n\n<p>2018\nFeb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180301162901/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180301162901/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2017\nFeb 28:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170301072239/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170301072239/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2016</p>\n\n<p>Feb 29\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160301131933/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160301131933/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2015\nFeb 10 2015\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150211222255/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2015\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150211222255/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2015</a></p>\n\n<p>2014\nFeb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20140301072639/http://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2014\">https://web.archive.org/web/20140301072639/http://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2014</a></p>\n\n<p>2013\nFeb 9\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130210084748/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130210084748/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013</a>\nMarch 8\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130310023642/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130310023642/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013</a></p>\n\n<p>2012\nFeb 16\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120217142018/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120217142018/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012</a>\nMar 11\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120313051242/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120313051242/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012</a></p>\n\n<p>2011\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110228005913/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2011\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110228005913/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2011</a>\nFeb 26</p>\n\n<p>It looks like 2010 and earlier there was a different URL (rate.php) so the format gets weird</p>\n\n<p>2010\nThru feb 28 (weird format)\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20100301122938/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20100301122938/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2009 \nHere the format changes pretty drastically if you chase after anything other than ‘end of season’ rankings. Also the info was split across pages. A csv was also available.</p>\n\n<p>Feb 17\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090219011542/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php?y=2009\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090219011542/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php?y=2009</a>\nThis is as far back as it goes w/ ‘complete set’</p>\n\n<p>Eff stats Thru Feb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090301195918/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090301195918/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2008\nCan’t go back past April</p>\n\n<p>2007\nThru Mar 7\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20070309125639/http://kenpom.com/rate.php?y=2007\">https://web.archive.org/web/20070309125639/http://kenpom.com/rate.php?y=2007</a>\nThru Mar 11\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20070312171535/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20070312171535/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2006\nFeb 7\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20060209131353/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php?y=2006&amp;s=14\">https://web.archive.org/web/20060209131353/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php?y=2006&amp;s=14</a>\nFeb 7\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20060209043126/http://www.kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20060209043126/http://www.kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2005\nFeb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20050302021451/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20050302021451/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a>\n(Only has SOS, Rank)\nFeb 23, Tempo, etc\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20050227034048/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20050227034048/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2004\n2/1\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20040202143610/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20040202143610/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2003\n2/15\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20030206073449/http://www.kenpom.com:80/cbb.html\">https://web.archive.org/web/20030206073449/http://www.kenpom.com:80/cbb.html</a>\nJust Rank and SOS</p>\n\n<p>2002\nEarliest date Apr 3</p>\n\n<p>So...a bit of a mess. If somebody has better luck please share.</p>\n\n<p>Would be nice to use, but I know I don't want leaks, and I'm not sure it makes much sense to use snapshots at different points of the season. I will ponder it.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "On the Pomeroy pre-tournament results topic: As a follow up, I scoured the Wayback machine for a) results at end of Feb (or close) and b) years 2008 and before. What I found:\n\n2020\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20200229222149/https://kenpom.com/\n \n2019\nCouldn't find anything! Recommend using Dave Lorenz' capture from before the tournament (in his post)\n \n2018\nFeb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20180301162901/https://kenpom.com/\n\n2017\nFeb 28:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170301072239/http://kenpom.com/\n \n2016\n \nFeb 29\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20160301131933/http://kenpom.com/\n \n2015\nFeb 10 2015\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20150211222255/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2015\n \n2014\nFeb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20140301072639/http://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2014\n \n2013\nFeb 9\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130210084748/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\nMarch 8\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130310023642/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\n \n2012\nFeb 16\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120217142018/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\nMar 11\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120313051242/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\n \n2011\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20110228005913/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2011\nFeb 26\n \nIt looks like 2010 and earlier there was a different URL (rate.php) so the format gets weird\n\n2010\nThru feb 28 (weird format)\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20100301122938/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\n\n2009 \nHere the format changes pretty drastically if you chase after anything other than ‘end of season’ rankings. Also the info was split across pages. A csv was also available.\n \nFeb 17\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20090219011542/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php?y=2009\nThis is as far back as it goes w/ ‘complete set’\n\nEff stats Thru Feb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20090301195918/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\n  \n2008\nCan’t go back past April\n \n2007\nThru Mar 7\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20070309125639/http://kenpom.com/rate.php?y=2007\nThru Mar 11\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20070312171535/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\n \n2006\nFeb 7\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20060209131353/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php?y=2006&amp;s=14\nFeb 7\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20060209043126/http://www.kenpom.com/rate.php\n \n2005\nFeb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20050302021451/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\n(Only has SOS, Rank)\nFeb 23, Tempo, etc\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20050227034048/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\n \n2004\n2/1\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20040202143610/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\n \n2003\n2/15\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20030206073449/http://www.kenpom.com:80/cbb.html\nJust Rank and SOS\n \n2002\nEarliest date Apr 3\n \nSo...a bit of a mess. If somebody has better luck please share.\n\nWould be nice to use, but I know I don't want leaks, and I'm not sure it makes much sense to use snapshots at different points of the season. I will ponder it."
    },
    {
      "id": 760789,
      "postDate": "2020-03-01T18:12:49.687Z",
      "content": "<p>So you just used the previous years ratings as-is despite the 'leakage'? I thought of looking at the previous years or something in training but they seem to jump up and down a lot.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "So you just used the previous years ratings as-is despite the 'leakage'? I thought of looking at the previous years or something in training but they seem to jump up and down a lot."
    },
    {
      "id": 760544,
      "postDate": "2020-03-01T12:52:28.960Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/tree/add-license-1/Data\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/tree/add-license-1/Data</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/tree/add-license-1/Data"
    },
    {
      "id": 759413,
      "postDate": "2020-02-29T02:18:49.837Z",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> publicly available stats for the team</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll be using https://kenpom.com/ publicly available stats for the team\n"
    },
    {
      "id": 757079,
      "postDate": "2020-02-26T12:10:03.567Z",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using kenpom <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> 2002-2020.\nI'll take the chance, even it is provides little overfit. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll be using kenpom https://kenpom.com/ 2002-2020.\nI'll take the chance, even it is provides little overfit. "
    },
    {
      "id": 754729,
      "postDate": "2020-02-24T01:30:42.950Z",
      "content": "<p>We already have regular score data for season 2019, and can be used to predict 2019 March Madness score.\nWhen kaggle upload season 2020 regular data.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "We already have regular score data for season 2019, and can be used to predict 2019 March Madness score.\nWhen kaggle upload season 2020 regular data."
    },
    {
      "id": 754114,
      "postDate": "2020-02-23T04:28:17.150Z",
      "content": "<p>I may use some of the Event/Player data from the previous competitions since there were a few extra years represented there.\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\n</a></p>\n\n<p><em>Not throwing shade at the source switch though :) - addition of X, Y coordinate data and consistency between men's and women's data is going to be awesome!</em></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I may use some of the Event/Player data from the previous competitions since there were a few extra years represented there.\n[https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\n](https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data)\n\n*Not throwing shade at the source switch though :) - addition of X, Y coordinate data and consistency between men's and women's data is going to be awesome!*"
    },
    {
      "id": 754056,
      "postDate": "2020-02-23T01:32:03.623Z",
      "content": "<p>I plan to use the following datasets:\n<a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a>\n<a href=\"http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/predncaa.html\">http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/predncaa.html</a>\n<a href=\"https://www.covers.com/Sports/NCAAB/\">https://www.covers.com/Sports/NCAAB/</a>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/fivethirtyeight/data/blob/master/historical-ncaa-forecasts/historical-538-ncaa-tournament-model-results.csv\">https://github.com/fivethirtyeight/data/blob/master/historical-ncaa-forecasts/historical-538-ncaa-tournament-model-results.csv</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I plan to use the following datasets:\nhttps://kenpom.com/\nhttp://www.thepredictiontracker.com/predncaa.html\nhttps://www.covers.com/Sports/NCAAB/\nhttps://github.com/fivethirtyeight/data/blob/master/historical-ncaa-forecasts/historical-538-ncaa-tournament-model-results.csv"
    },
    {
      "id": 754039,
      "postDate": "2020-02-23T00:57:22.173Z",
      "content": "<p>will be using kenpom <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> 2002-2020.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "will be using kenpom https://kenpom.com/ 2002-2020."
    },
    {
      "id": 752707,
      "postDate": "2020-02-21T10:26:14.530Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/\">https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/</a> for player heights</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/ for player heights"
    },
    {
      "id": 751011,
      "postDate": "2020-02-19T23:28:07.957Z",
      "content": "<p>There is some usual data at : <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-01-24/2020-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-predictions-50-days\">https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-01-24/2020-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-predictions-50-days</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "There is some usual data at : https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-01-24/2020-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-predictions-50-days"
    },
    {
      "id": 751002,
      "postDate": "2020-02-19T23:01:55.430Z",
      "content": "<p>Conference Ratings</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/1985.html\">https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/1985.html</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Conference Ratings\n\nhttps://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/1985.html"
    },
    {
      "id": 748693,
      "postDate": "2020-02-17T21:14:02.477Z",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using Current and historic polling data:\n<a href=\"http://collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/\">http://collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll be using Current and historic polling data:\nhttp://collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/"
    },
    {
      "id": 759925,
      "postDate": "2020-02-29T16:15:07.203Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "isDeleted": true
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 749663,
      "author_name": "Paulo Pinto",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-18T20:49:54.827000",
      "content": "<p>Kenpom (<a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a>) 2002 - 2020\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020\">https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020</a></p>",
      "votes": 7,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 753500,
          "author_name": "Ho Loong",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-22T09:34:03.247000",
          "content": "<p>Great data set, thanks for sharing.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 746905,
      "author_name": "raddar",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-15T18:05:43.877000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://fivethirtyeight.com\">https://fivethirtyeight.com</a> available ncaa team rankings</p>",
      "votes": 4,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 763871,
      "author_name": "KublaKahn",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-04T23:20:56.583000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/discussion/81346\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/discussion/81346</a> </p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 754702,
      "author_name": "Chris Louie",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-24T00:20:22.523000",
      "content": "<p>using <a href=\"http://thepredictiontracker.com/ncaaresults.php\">http://thepredictiontracker.com/ncaaresults.php</a>\nyears 2003-&gt;2019</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 761669,
          "author_name": "Dave Lorenz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-03-02T20:43:39.823000",
          "content": "<p>Have you found a file that includes tournament games for 2019? </p>\n\n<p>The 2019 file I have here includes all games besides the tournament: <a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Point%20spreads/ncaabb18.csv\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Point%20spreads/ncaabb18.csv</a> </p>\n\n<p>The file on this website for 2018-2019 (<a href=\"http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv\">http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv</a>) is only November 2019 games, which does not make any sense (it should be 2018-2019 including 2019 March Madness games). </p>\n\n<p>Not a big deal, but it would be nice to see how 2019 first round games perform with the line as a feature. I didn't use lines last year, but am thinking about incorporating them this year.</p>\n\n<p>EDIT: I reached out to the owner of the website to alert them of the issue. Will keep you posted.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 765393,
          "author_name": "Dave Lorenz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-03-06T15:18:36.023000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv\">http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/ncaabb18.csv</a> appears to be fixed now! It has all games through the UVA v Texas Tech championship.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 747169,
      "author_name": "SRK",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-16T04:06:05.313000",
      "content": "<p>I am planning to use the following external data in addition to the ones mentioned above by others.</p>\n\n<p>RSCI rankings from <a href=\"https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/recruit_rankings_2018.html\">Basketball Reference</a></p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 746782,
      "author_name": "Maniceet Sahay",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-15T14:44:42.087000",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> publicly available stats for the team</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 747102,
          "author_name": "S Charlesworth",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-16T00:52:54.290000",
          "content": "<p>Planning to use those as well...word on the street is they're good.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 747628,
          "author_name": "Ben Tesch",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-16T17:00:35.920000",
          "content": "<p>Looking at the \"Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings\" pages. I see they go back to 02 which is great. Do we know if results include the NCAA tournament? </p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 749794,
          "author_name": "Dave Lorenz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-18T22:46:01.663000",
          "content": "<p>The historical Ken Pom stats include the NCAA tournament (e.g., 2019 UVA was 35-3 on Ken Pom but was 29-3 going into the tournament). Therefore, the stats could lead to overfitting. That said, I used them last year and they were an important feature.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 749797,
          "author_name": "Dave Lorenz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-18T22:53:34.827000",
          "content": "<p>Here is a link to historical processing I used last year: <a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/02%20Prepare%20Ken%20Pom%20data.ipynb\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/02%20Prepare%20Ken%20Pom%20data.ipynb</a></p>",
          "votes": 3,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 749852,
          "author_name": "Ben Tesch",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-19T00:03:18.253000",
          "content": "<p>After some digging, I came to the same realization. You're right that it could lead to overfitting. \nI did buy a subscription and I may use height/experience data. It shouldn't be impacted by the tournament given tournament results won't change it. But everything else looks like it leads to data leakage. </p>\n\n<p>Ken - if you're reading this, it would be really nice if a subscriber could split out NCAA tourny results from the aggregated data. </p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 749895,
          "author_name": "S Charlesworth",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-19T01:35:52.240000",
          "content": "<p>I knew it was too good to be true! Thanks for the info. I'll keep digging.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 750498,
          "author_name": "Limited Release",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-19T12:50:29.960000",
          "content": "<p>And versions of that obtained from archive.org.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 754749,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-02-24T02:20:49.190000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 761665,
          "author_name": "Dave Lorenz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-03-02T20:38:07.527000",
          "content": "<p>As Limited Release stated, you can download the page prior to the tournament started via wayback machine to avoid leakage. I linked the pre-tourney Ken Pom stats below. I haven't yet processed these or incorporated them into a model to evaluate the CV performance.</p>\n\n<p>2019 (already pulled last year's previously):\n<a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Ken%20Pom/KP2019_final.csv\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/blob/add-license-1/Data/Ken%20Pom/KP2019_final.csv</a></p>\n\n<p>2018:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180311122559/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180311122559/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2017:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170312131016/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170312131016/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2016:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160314134726/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160314134726/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2015:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150316212936/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150316212936/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2014:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20140318100454/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20140318100454/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2013:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130318221134/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130318221134/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2012:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120311165019/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120311165019/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2011:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110311233233/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110311233233/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2010:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20100304023540/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20100304023540/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2009:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090315085050/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090315085050/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2008 and prior TBD. </p>\n\n<p>You can see, for example, in 2017 the Adj EM did not change much before and after the tournament. There was a drop for UVA when they barely won in the first round (76-71 v UNC Wilmington) and lost in the second round 65-39 to Florida. FSU also experienced a drop, losing in the second round to Xavier 91-66. <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball-men/d1/2017\">https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball-men/d1/2017</a></p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F2280345%2F7c587cea0ddf72a75b0559cb2da878aa%2FCapture.PNG?generation=1583183160614914&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
          "votes": 5,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 761710,
          "author_name": "Jeff Sonas",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-03-02T21:20:20.383000",
          "content": "<p>Also remember that some people found the pre-tourney ratings were not as predictive as the late February ratings - might want to see if you can grab those too.  I am referring to the paper that was written by the winners of our first contest</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 761745,
          "author_name": "Dave Lorenz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-03-02T22:20:08.803000",
          "content": "<p>Thanks, Jeff. Good point. I also posted links for mid and late February Ken Pom stats below. </p>\n\n<p>2/27/2019:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20190228115731/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20190228115731/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/17/2019:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20190218001956/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20190218001956/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2018:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180228100007/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180228100007/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/17/2018:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180218040511/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180218040511/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2017:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170228195241/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170228195241/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/19/2017:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170219233149/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170219233149/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/28/2016:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160229012814/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160229012814/http://kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2016:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160221141317/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160221141317/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2015:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150228131430/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150228131430/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2015:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150221034435/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150221034435/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2014:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20141001000000\">https://web.archive.org/web/20141001000000</a><em>/<a href=\"http://www.kenpom.com/\">http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2014:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20140601000000\">https://web.archive.org/web/20140601000000</a></em>/<a href=\"http://www.kenpom.com/\">http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/25/2013:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130225215355/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130225215355/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/20/2013:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130501000000\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130501000000</a>*/<a href=\"http://www.kenpom.com/\">http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/26/2012:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120228043839/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120228043839/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/18/2012:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120219142755/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120219142755/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2/27/2011:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110228211802/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110228211802/http://www.kenpom.com/</a>\n2/22/2011:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110223230550/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110223230550/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>1/29/2010 (no later snapshots):\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20100131041129/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20100131041129/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2/16/2009:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090218011935/http://www.kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090218011935/http://www.kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2008:\nN/A</p>\n\n<p>2/15/2007:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20070216155122/http://kenpom.com/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20070216155122/http://kenpom.com/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2/7/2006:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20060209030049/http://www.kenpom.com/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20060209030049/http://www.kenpom.com/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2/9/2005:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20050213015719/http://kenpom.com/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20050213015719/http://kenpom.com/stats.php</a></p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 766836,
          "author_name": "Daniel JC",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-03-08T20:11:42.463000",
          "content": "<p>The ken pom ratings pertaining to a specific set of games (e.g. only those pre-tournament) can be very closely recovered using only the kaggle-provided box score data. </p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 769091,
      "author_name": "iRainx",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-11T14:21:28.640000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020\">https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020</a>   I may be using this in the final model.</p>\n\n<p>Unsure if the data here is made free in the website or paid. </p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 768444,
      "author_name": "Cameron Marks",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-10T19:55:41.330000",
      "content": "<p>CBS Sports Strength of Schedule\n<a href=\"https://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/sos/2016-17\">https://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/sos/2016-17</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 767965,
      "author_name": "Kumar Shubham",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-10T10:01:56.040000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/rounds\">https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/rounds</a>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/leaderboard\">https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/leaderboard</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 767280,
      "author_name": "Jo-fai Chow",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-09T12:31:32.637000",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> publicly available stats for the team</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 766439,
      "author_name": "datasaurus",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-08T06:09:41.993000",
      "content": "<p>All of the following including historical data and Wayback Machine archives if available\n(links from <a href=\"https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm\">https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm</a>)</p>\n\n<p>| Rating | Code | Link |\n|:------ |:----:|:---- | \n| Simmons | SMS | <a href=\"http://simmonsratings.com/\">http://simmonsratings.com/</a> | \n| B Wilson Empirical | BWE | <a href=\"http://waywardtrends.com/bryan/BWE/ncaabRankings.php\">http://waywardtrends.com/bryan/BWE/ncaabRankings.php</a> | \n| Whitlock | WLK | <a href=\"http://whitlockrankings.com/bbrank1.htm\">http://whitlockrankings.com/bbrank1.htm</a> | \n| Wobus MOV | WMV | <a href=\"http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballwmv.html\">http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballwmv.html</a> | \n| Donchess Inference | DII | <a href=\"http://www.dratings.com/\">http://www.dratings.com/</a> | \n| Ford AMSTS | FAS | <a href=\"https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings\">https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings</a> | \n| Sports Ratings | SPR | <a href=\"https://www.sports-ratings.com/basketball/\">https://www.sports-ratings.com/basketball/</a> | \n| Sport Theory | STH | <a href=\"http://kindoflost.com/college-basketball-ranking/\">http://kindoflost.com/college-basketball-ranking/</a> | \n| NCAA NET | NET | <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings\">https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings</a> | \n| Pomeroy | POM | <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> | \n| INCC Stats | INC | <a href=\"http://www.inccstats.com/basketball/2019-20/rankings.html\">http://www.inccstats.com/basketball/2019-20/rankings.html</a> | \n| Kislanko | KLK | <a href=\"http://basketball.kislanko.com/\">http://basketball.kislanko.com/</a> | \n| PiRate | PIR | <a href=\"http://piratings.wordpress.com/\">http://piratings.wordpress.com/</a> | \n| Davis | DAV | <a href=\"http://kurcc.com/rcc/dppi_ranking/DPPI.htm\">http://kurcc.com/rcc/dppi_ranking/DPPI.htm</a> | \n| Kirkpatrick | KPK | <a href=\"http://talismanred.com/ratings/ckhoops/\">http://talismanred.com/ratings/ckhoops/</a> | \n| Massey | MAS | <a href=\"https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings\">https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings</a> | \n| Round Robin Win % | RWP | <a href=\"https://teamranks.blogspot.com/\">https://teamranks.blogspot.com/</a> | \n| Self | SEL | <a href=\"https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jeffself/collegebasketballrankings/master/cbrank2020.txt\">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jeffself/collegebasketballrankings/master/cbrank2020.txt</a> | \n| Benz | BNZ | <a href=\"https://lbenz730.shinyapps.io/recspecs_basketball_central/\">https://lbenz730.shinyapps.io/recspecs_basketball_central/</a> | \n| Baker Bradley-Terry | BBT | <a href=\"http://dbaker.50webs.com/\">http://dbaker.50webs.com/</a> | \n| Bennett | BNT | <a href=\"https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball\">https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball</a> | \n| Dunkel | DUN | <a href=\"http://dunkelindex.com/\">http://dunkelindex.com/</a> | \n| ARGH | ARG | <a href=\"http://www.arghratings.com/\">http://www.arghratings.com/</a> | \n| Rothman | RTH | <a href=\"http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/rothman.txt\">http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/rothman.txt</a> | \n| The Power Rank | TPR | <a href=\"https://thepowerrank.com/2019/02/12/college-basketball-predictions-for-2019/\">https://thepowerrank.com/2019/02/12/college-basketball-predictions-for-2019/</a> | \n| Dokter Entropy | DOK | <a href=\"http://www.timetravelsports.com/colbb.html\">http://www.timetravelsports.com/colbb.html</a> | \n| Sagarin | SAG | <a href=\"https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/\">https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/</a> | \n| Bihl | BIH | <a href=\"http://jeffbihl.com/bwin.html\">http://jeffbihl.com/bwin.html</a> | \n| T-Rank | TRK | <a href=\"http://barttorvik.com/#\">http://barttorvik.com/#</a> | \n| Logan | LOG | <a href=\"http://loganssportsratings.blogspot.com/\">http://loganssportsratings.blogspot.com/</a> | \n| Mark Moog | MMG | <a href=\"http://www.markmoog.com/\">http://www.markmoog.com/</a> | \n| Pugh | PGH | <a href=\"http://www.compughterratings.com/CBB/rankings\">http://www.compughterratings.com/CBB/rankings</a> | \n| Dolphin | DOL | <a href=\"http://www.dolphinsim.com/ratings/ncaa_mbb/\">http://www.dolphinsim.com/ratings/ncaa_mbb/</a> | \n| TeamRankings Pred | TRP | <a href=\"http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other\">http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other</a> | \n| Lefevre | LEF | <a href=\"https://www.brianlefevre.com/ncaab-team-rankings/\">https://www.brianlefevre.com/ncaab-team-rankings/</a> | \n| Krach | KRA | <a href=\"http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballkrach.html\">http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballkrach.html</a> | \n| Cheong | CNG | <a href=\"http://www.raymondcheong.com/rankings/\">http://www.raymondcheong.com/rankings/</a> | \n| ESPN BPI | EBP | <a href=\"http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi\">http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi</a> | \n| Wobus | WOB | <a href=\"http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballrankings.html\">http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballrankings.html</a> | \n| Wilson | WIL | <a href=\"http://talismanred.com/ratings/hoops/\">http://talismanred.com/ratings/hoops/</a> | \n| LRMC | LMC | <a href=\"http://www.lrmc.gatech.edu/\">http://www.lrmc.gatech.edu/</a> | \n| Haslametrics | HAS | <a href=\"http://haslametrics.com/\">http://haslametrics.com/</a> | \n| Colley | COL | <a href=\"http://www.colleyrankings.com/\">http://www.colleyrankings.com/</a> | \n| Jelly Juke | JJK | <a href=\"http://www.jellyjuke.com/\">http://www.jellyjuke.com/</a> | \n| RoundTable | RT | <a href=\"http://www.rtsratings.com/\">http://www.rtsratings.com/</a> | \n| Forseth ERFunction | FSH | <a href=\"http://erikforseth.com/\">http://erikforseth.com/</a> | \n| Wolfe | WOL | <a href=\"http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/ratings.htm\">http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/ratings.htm</a> | \n| Joby Nitty Gritty | JNG | <a href=\"http://hoopshd.com/nitty-gritty-rankings/\">http://hoopshd.com/nitty-gritty-rankings/</a> | \n| ESPN SOR | ESR | /view/resume\"&gt;http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi//view/resume | \n| Moore | MOR | <a href=\"http://sonnymoorepowerratings.com/\">http://sonnymoorepowerratings.com/</a> | \n| TrueSkill | TS | <a href=\"https://trueskil.blogspot.com/\">https://trueskil.blogspot.com/</a> | \n| Rewards | REW | <a href=\"http://academics.smcvt.edu/jtrono/RewardNCAA_Bball.htm\">http://academics.smcvt.edu/jtrono/RewardNCAA_Bball.htm</a> | \n| Daniel Curry Index | DCI | <a href=\"http://dcindex-choop.blogspot.com/search/label/DCI%20Rank\">http://dcindex-choop.blogspot.com/search/label/DCI%20Rank</a> | \n| Seed Madness | SMN | <a href=\"http://www.seed-madness.com/\">http://www.seed-madness.com/</a> | \n| Stat Fox | SFX | <a href=\"http://www.statfox.com/cbb/power/\">http://www.statfox.com/cbb/power/</a> | \n| RT Power | RTP | <a href=\"http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_power_rankings_Full.html\">http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_power_rankings_Full.html</a> | \n| Pigskin | PIG | <a href=\"http://powerratings.com/cbasket.htm\">http://powerratings.com/cbasket.htm</a> | \n| Seven OT | 7OT | <a href=\"http://sevenovertimes.com/\">http://sevenovertimes.com/</a> | \n| Kyle Cox | KCX | <a href=\"http://kyle-cox.com/\">http://kyle-cox.com/</a> | \n| Mangels | MGS | <a href=\"http://aaronmangels.com/mangelscbb/\">http://aaronmangels.com/mangelscbb/</a> | \n| Associated Press | AP | <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press\">https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press</a> | \n| USA Today Coaches | USA | <a href=\"http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/\">http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/</a> | \n| DeSimone | DES | <a href=\"http://www.mikedesimone.com/top25b.htm\">http://www.mikedesimone.com/top25b.htm</a> | </p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 766059,
      "author_name": "godelscat",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-07T15:57:51.230000",
      "content": "<p>Try to use KenPom data <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/index.php\">https://kenpom.com/index.php</a>.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 765711,
      "author_name": "JasonZivkovic",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-07T01:44:38.930000",
      "content": "<p>I'll also use play-by-play data from previous competitions (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data</a>), and may look to incorporate KenPom data (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data</a>)</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 765497,
      "author_name": "Jeff Donchess",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-06T17:45:22.307000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.dratings.com/sports/ncaa-college-basketball-ratings/\">https://www.dratings.com/sports/ncaa-college-basketball-ratings/</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 764784,
      "author_name": "Josh Stone",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-05T22:24:49.990000",
      "content": "<p>In case it's important to mention, I am using the results from past years' competitions in local evaluations: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com\">https://www.kaggle.com</a> 😁 </p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 764384,
      "author_name": "Dante Sblendorio",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-05T12:07:23.780000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-march-madness-predictions/</a>\n<a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/</a>\n<a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-march-madness-predictions/</a>\n<a href=\"https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-march-madness-predictions/\">https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-march-madness-predictions/</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 762737,
      "author_name": "Blake Atkinson",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-03T19:15:58.267000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.sportsbookreviewsonline.com/scoresoddsarchives/ncaabasketball/ncaabasketballoddsarchives.htm\">https://www.sportsbookreviewsonline.com/scoresoddsarchives/ncaabasketball/ncaabasketballoddsarchives.htm</a>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/lbenz730/ncaahoopR_data\">https://github.com/lbenz730/ncaahoopR_data</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 761867,
      "author_name": "S Charlesworth",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-03T02:12:47.050000",
      "content": "<p>On the Pomeroy pre-tournament results topic: As a follow up, I scoured the Wayback machine for a) results at end of Feb (or close) and b) years 2008 and before. What I found:</p>\n\n<p>2020\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20200229222149/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20200229222149/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2019\nCouldn't find anything! Recommend using Dave Lorenz' capture from before the tournament (in his post)</p>\n\n<p>2018\nFeb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20180301162901/https://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20180301162901/https://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2017\nFeb 28:\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20170301072239/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20170301072239/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2016</p>\n\n<p>Feb 29\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20160301131933/http://kenpom.com/\">https://web.archive.org/web/20160301131933/http://kenpom.com/</a></p>\n\n<p>2015\nFeb 10 2015\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20150211222255/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2015\">https://web.archive.org/web/20150211222255/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2015</a></p>\n\n<p>2014\nFeb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20140301072639/http://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2014\">https://web.archive.org/web/20140301072639/http://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2014</a></p>\n\n<p>2013\nFeb 9\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130210084748/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130210084748/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013</a>\nMarch 8\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20130310023642/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\">https://web.archive.org/web/20130310023642/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013</a></p>\n\n<p>2012\nFeb 16\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120217142018/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120217142018/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012</a>\nMar 11\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20120313051242/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\">https://web.archive.org/web/20120313051242/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012</a></p>\n\n<p>2011\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20110228005913/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2011\">https://web.archive.org/web/20110228005913/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2011</a>\nFeb 26</p>\n\n<p>It looks like 2010 and earlier there was a different URL (rate.php) so the format gets weird</p>\n\n<p>2010\nThru feb 28 (weird format)\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20100301122938/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20100301122938/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2009 \nHere the format changes pretty drastically if you chase after anything other than ‘end of season’ rankings. Also the info was split across pages. A csv was also available.</p>\n\n<p>Feb 17\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090219011542/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php?y=2009\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090219011542/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php?y=2009</a>\nThis is as far back as it goes w/ ‘complete set’</p>\n\n<p>Eff stats Thru Feb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20090301195918/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20090301195918/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2008\nCan’t go back past April</p>\n\n<p>2007\nThru Mar 7\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20070309125639/http://kenpom.com/rate.php?y=2007\">https://web.archive.org/web/20070309125639/http://kenpom.com/rate.php?y=2007</a>\nThru Mar 11\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20070312171535/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20070312171535/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2006\nFeb 7\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20060209131353/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php?y=2006&amp;s=14\">https://web.archive.org/web/20060209131353/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php?y=2006&amp;s=14</a>\nFeb 7\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20060209043126/http://www.kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20060209043126/http://www.kenpom.com/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2005\nFeb 28\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20050302021451/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20050302021451/http://kenpom.com/rate.php</a>\n(Only has SOS, Rank)\nFeb 23, Tempo, etc\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20050227034048/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20050227034048/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2004\n2/1\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20040202143610/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\">https://web.archive.org/web/20040202143610/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php</a></p>\n\n<p>2003\n2/15\n<a href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20030206073449/http://www.kenpom.com:80/cbb.html\">https://web.archive.org/web/20030206073449/http://www.kenpom.com:80/cbb.html</a>\nJust Rank and SOS</p>\n\n<p>2002\nEarliest date Apr 3</p>\n\n<p>So...a bit of a mess. If somebody has better luck please share.</p>\n\n<p>Would be nice to use, but I know I don't want leaks, and I'm not sure it makes much sense to use snapshots at different points of the season. I will ponder it.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 760789,
      "author_name": "S Charlesworth",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-01T18:12:49.687000",
      "content": "<p>So you just used the previous years ratings as-is despite the 'leakage'? I thought of looking at the previous years or something in training but they seem to jump up and down a lot.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 760544,
      "author_name": "Yutaka Sawai",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-03-01T12:52:28.960000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/tree/add-license-1/Data\">https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/tree/add-license-1/Data</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 759413,
      "author_name": "Dave S",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-29T02:18:49.837000",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> publicly available stats for the team</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 757079,
      "author_name": "Radu Robu",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-26T12:10:03.567000",
      "content": "<p>I'll be using kenpom <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> 2002-2020.\nI'll take the chance, even it is provides little overfit. </p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 754729,
      "author_name": "Do Phuc",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-24T01:30:42.950000",
      "content": "<p>We already have regular score data for season 2019, and can be used to predict 2019 March Madness score.\nWhen kaggle upload season 2020 regular data.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 754114,
      "author_name": "Brandon Hoeksema",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-23T04:28:17.150000",
      "content": "<p>I may use some of the Event/Player data from the previous competitions since there were a few extra years represented there.\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\n</a></p>\n\n<p><em>Not throwing shade at the source switch though :) - addition of X, Y coordinate data and consistency between men's and women's data is going to be awesome!</em></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 754056,
      "author_name": "Zach",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-23T01:32:03.623000",
      "content": "<p>I plan to use the following datasets:\n<a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a>\n<a href=\"http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/predncaa.html\">http://www.thepredictiontracker.com/predncaa.html</a>\n<a href=\"https://www.covers.com/Sports/NCAAB/\">https://www.covers.com/Sports/NCAAB/</a>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/fivethirtyeight/data/blob/master/historical-ncaa-forecasts/historical-538-ncaa-tournament-model-results.csv\">https://github.com/fivethirtyeight/data/blob/master/historical-ncaa-forecasts/historical-538-ncaa-tournament-model-results.csv</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 754039,
      "author_name": "Chris Louie",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-23T00:57:22.173000",
      "content": "<p>will be using kenpom <a href=\"https://kenpom.com/\">https://kenpom.com/</a> 2002-2020.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 752707,
      "author_name": "Dante Sblendorio",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-21T10:26:14.530000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/\">https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/</a> for player heights</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 751011,
      "author_name": "hisudha",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-19T23:28:07.957000",
      "content": "<p>There is some usual data at : <a href=\"https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-01-24/2020-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-predictions-50-days\">https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-01-24/2020-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-predictions-50-days</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 751002,
      "author_name": "Don Edolio",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-19T23:01:55.430000",
      "content": "<p>Conference Ratings</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/1985.html\">https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/1985.html</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 748693,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-17T21:14:02.477000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 759925,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-02-29T16:15:07.203000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "746440": "Post links to your external data sources here before the deadline specified in the rules. Once it has been posted, you do not need to post it again.",
    "749663": "Kenpom (https://kenpom.com/) 2002 - 2020\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020",
    "746905": "https://fivethirtyeight.com available ncaa team rankings",
    "763871": "https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/discussion/81346 ",
    "754702": "using http://thepredictiontracker.com/ncaaresults.php\nyears 2003-&gt;2019",
    "747169": "I am planning to use the following external data in addition to the ones mentioned above by others.\n\nRSCI rankings from [Basketball Reference](https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/recruit_rankings_2018.html)",
    "746782": "I'll be using https://kenpom.com/ publicly available stats for the team",
    "769091": "https://www.kaggle.com/paulorzp/kenpom-2020   I may be using this in the final model.\n\nUnsure if the data here is made free in the website or paid. ",
    "768444": "CBS Sports Strength of Schedule\nhttps://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/sos/2016-17\n",
    "767965": "https://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/rounds\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/ks2019/leaderboard",
    "767280": "I'll be using https://kenpom.com/ publicly available stats for the team",
    "766439": "All of the following including historical data and Wayback Machine archives if available\n(links from https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm)\n\n| Rating | Code | Link |\n|:------ |:----:|:---- | \n| Simmons | SMS | http://simmonsratings.com/ | \n| B Wilson Empirical | BWE | http://waywardtrends.com/bryan/BWE/ncaabRankings.php | \n| Whitlock | WLK | http://whitlockrankings.com/bbrank1.htm | \n| Wobus MOV | WMV | http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballwmv.html | \n| Donchess Inference | DII | http://www.dratings.com/ | \n| Ford AMSTS | FAS | https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/ncaa-college-basketball-rankings | \n| Sports Ratings | SPR | https://www.sports-ratings.com/basketball/ | \n| Sport Theory | STH | http://kindoflost.com/college-basketball-ranking/ | \n| NCAA NET | NET | https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings | \n| Pomeroy | POM | https://kenpom.com/ | \n| INCC Stats | INC | http://www.inccstats.com/basketball/2019-20/rankings.html | \n| Kislanko | KLK | http://basketball.kislanko.com/ | \n| PiRate | PIR | http://piratings.wordpress.com/ | \n| Davis | DAV | http://kurcc.com/rcc/dppi_ranking/DPPI.htm | \n| Kirkpatrick | KPK | http://talismanred.com/ratings/ckhoops/ | \n| Massey | MAS | https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings | \n| Round Robin Win % | RWP | https://teamranks.blogspot.com/ | \n| Self | SEL | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jeffself/collegebasketballrankings/master/cbrank2020.txt | \n| Benz | BNZ | https://lbenz730.shinyapps.io/recspecs_basketball_central/ | \n| Baker Bradley-Terry | BBT | http://dbaker.50webs.com/ | \n| Bennett | BNT | https://herosports.com/rankings/college-basketball | \n| Dunkel | DUN | http://dunkelindex.com/ | \n| ARGH | ARG | http://www.arghratings.com/ | \n| Rothman | RTH | http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/rothman.txt | \n| The Power Rank | TPR | https://thepowerrank.com/2019/02/12/college-basketball-predictions-for-2019/ | \n| Dokter Entropy | DOK | http://www.timetravelsports.com/colbb.html | \n| Sagarin | SAG | https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/ | \n| Bihl | BIH | http://jeffbihl.com/bwin.html | \n| T-Rank | TRK | http://barttorvik.com/# | \n| Logan | LOG | http://loganssportsratings.blogspot.com/ | \n| Mark Moog | MMG | http://www.markmoog.com/ | \n| Pugh | PGH | http://www.compughterratings.com/CBB/rankings | \n| Dolphin | DOL | http://www.dolphinsim.com/ratings/ncaa_mbb/ | \n| TeamRankings Pred | TRP | http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other | \n| Lefevre | LEF | https://www.brianlefevre.com/ncaab-team-rankings/ | \n| Krach | KRA | http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballkrach.html | \n| Cheong | CNG | http://www.raymondcheong.com/rankings/ | \n| ESPN BPI | EBP | http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi | \n| Wobus | WOB | http://sports.vaporia.com/collegebasketballrankings.html | \n| Wilson | WIL | http://talismanred.com/ratings/hoops/ | \n| LRMC | LMC | http://www.lrmc.gatech.edu/ | \n| Haslametrics | HAS | http://haslametrics.com/ | \n| Colley | COL | http://www.colleyrankings.com/ | \n| Jelly Juke | JJK | http://www.jellyjuke.com/ | \n| RoundTable | RT | http://www.rtsratings.com/ | \n| Forseth ERFunction | FSH | http://erikforseth.com/ | \n| Wolfe | WOL | http://prwolfe.bol.ucla.edu/cbasketball/ratings.htm | \n| Joby Nitty Gritty | JNG | http://hoopshd.com/nitty-gritty-rankings/ | \n| ESPN SOR | ESR | http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/view/resume | \n| Moore | MOR | http://sonnymoorepowerratings.com/ | \n| TrueSkill | TS | https://trueskil.blogspot.com/ | \n| Rewards | REW | http://academics.smcvt.edu/jtrono/RewardNCAA_Bball.htm | \n| Daniel Curry Index | DCI | http://dcindex-choop.blogspot.com/search/label/DCI%20Rank | \n| Seed Madness | SMN | http://www.seed-madness.com/ | \n| Stat Fox | SFX | http://www.statfox.com/cbb/power/ | \n| RT Power | RTP | http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_power_rankings_Full.html | \n| Pigskin | PIG | http://powerratings.com/cbasket.htm | \n| Seven OT | 7OT | http://sevenovertimes.com/ | \n| Kyle Cox | KCX | http://kyle-cox.com/ | \n| Mangels | MGS | http://aaronmangels.com/mangelscbb/ | \n| Associated Press | AP | https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press | \n| USA Today Coaches | USA | http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/ | \n| DeSimone | DES | http://www.mikedesimone.com/top25b.htm | ",
    "766059": "Try to use KenPom data https://kenpom.com/index.php.",
    "765711": "I'll also use play-by-play data from previous competitions (https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data), and may look to incorporate KenPom data (https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data)",
    "765497": "https://www.dratings.com/sports/ncaa-college-basketball-ratings/",
    "764784": "In case it's important to mention, I am using the results from past years' competitions in local evaluations: https://www.kaggle.com 😁 ",
    "764384": "https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-march-madness-predictions/\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-march-madness-predictions/\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-march-madness-predictions/",
    "762737": "https://www.sportsbookreviewsonline.com/scoresoddsarchives/ncaabasketball/ncaabasketballoddsarchives.htm\nhttps://github.com/lbenz730/ncaahoopR_data",
    "761867": "On the Pomeroy pre-tournament results topic: As a follow up, I scoured the Wayback machine for a) results at end of Feb (or close) and b) years 2008 and before. What I found:\n\n2020\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20200229222149/https://kenpom.com/\n \n2019\nCouldn't find anything! Recommend using Dave Lorenz' capture from before the tournament (in his post)\n \n2018\nFeb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20180301162901/https://kenpom.com/\n\n2017\nFeb 28:\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170301072239/http://kenpom.com/\n \n2016\n \nFeb 29\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20160301131933/http://kenpom.com/\n \n2015\nFeb 10 2015\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20150211222255/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2015\n \n2014\nFeb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20140301072639/http://kenpom.com/index.php?y=2014\n \n2013\nFeb 9\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130210084748/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\nMarch 8\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130310023642/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2013\n \n2012\nFeb 16\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120217142018/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\nMar 11\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120313051242/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2012\n \n2011\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20110228005913/http://kenpom.com:80/index.php?y=2011\nFeb 26\n \nIt looks like 2010 and earlier there was a different URL (rate.php) so the format gets weird\n\n2010\nThru feb 28 (weird format)\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20100301122938/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\n\n2009 \nHere the format changes pretty drastically if you chase after anything other than ‘end of season’ rankings. Also the info was split across pages. A csv was also available.\n \nFeb 17\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20090219011542/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php?y=2009\nThis is as far back as it goes w/ ‘complete set’\n\nEff stats Thru Feb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20090301195918/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\n  \n2008\nCan’t go back past April\n \n2007\nThru Mar 7\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20070309125639/http://kenpom.com/rate.php?y=2007\nThru Mar 11\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20070312171535/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\n \n2006\nFeb 7\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20060209131353/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php?y=2006&amp;s=14\nFeb 7\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20060209043126/http://www.kenpom.com/rate.php\n \n2005\nFeb 28\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20050302021451/http://kenpom.com/rate.php\n(Only has SOS, Rank)\nFeb 23, Tempo, etc\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20050227034048/http://kenpom.com:80/stats.php\n \n2004\n2/1\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20040202143610/http://kenpom.com:80/rate.php\n \n2003\n2/15\nhttps://web.archive.org/web/20030206073449/http://www.kenpom.com:80/cbb.html\nJust Rank and SOS\n \n2002\nEarliest date Apr 3\n \nSo...a bit of a mess. If somebody has better luck please share.\n\nWould be nice to use, but I know I don't want leaks, and I'm not sure it makes much sense to use snapshots at different points of the season. I will ponder it.",
    "760789": "So you just used the previous years ratings as-is despite the 'leakage'? I thought of looking at the previous years or something in training but they seem to jump up and down a lot.",
    "760544": "https://github.com/DaveLorenz/NCAAMarchMadnessNN/tree/add-license-1/Data",
    "759413": "I'll be using https://kenpom.com/ publicly available stats for the team\n",
    "757079": "I'll be using kenpom https://kenpom.com/ 2002-2020.\nI'll take the chance, even it is provides little overfit. ",
    "754729": "We already have regular score data for season 2019, and can be used to predict 2019 March Madness score.\nWhen kaggle upload season 2020 regular data.",
    "754114": "I may use some of the Event/Player data from the previous competitions since there were a few extra years represented there.\n[https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data\n](https://www.kaggle.com/c/mens-machine-learning-competition-2019/data)\n\n*Not throwing shade at the source switch though :) - addition of X, Y coordinate data and consistency between men's and women's data is going to be awesome!*",
    "754056": "I plan to use the following datasets:\nhttps://kenpom.com/\nhttp://www.thepredictiontracker.com/predncaa.html\nhttps://www.covers.com/Sports/NCAAB/\nhttps://github.com/fivethirtyeight/data/blob/master/historical-ncaa-forecasts/historical-538-ncaa-tournament-model-results.csv",
    "754039": "will be using kenpom https://kenpom.com/ 2002-2020.",
    "752707": "https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/ for player heights",
    "751011": "There is some usual data at : https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2020-01-24/2020-ncaa-tournament-bracketology-predictions-50-days",
    "751002": "Conference Ratings\n\nhttps://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/1985.html",
    "748693": "I'll be using Current and historic polling data:\nhttp://collegepollarchive.com/mbasketball/",
    "759925": ""
  }
}