{
  "id": 133209,
  "title": "Can we use rankings from day=133?",
  "url": "/competitions/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/133209",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2020-03-01T10:55:02.555000",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 3,
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  "content": "<p>So a model that uses MMasseyOrdinals.csv for training, can it use day=133.</p>\n\n<p>My suspect that it's the last day of the tournament and I won't have access to it in the stage2 for season 2020. Is this true?</p>",
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      "id": 760476,
      "postDate": "2020-03-01T10:55:02.557Z",
      "content": "<p>So a model that uses MMasseyOrdinals.csv for training, can it use day=133.</p>\n\n<p>My suspect that it's the last day of the tournament and I won't have access to it in the stage2 for season 2020. Is this true?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "So a model that uses MMasseyOrdinals.csv for training, can it use day=133.\n\nMy suspect that it's the last day of the tournament and I won't have access to it in the stage2 for season 2020. Is this true?",
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      "id": 760802,
      "postDate": "2020-03-01T18:29:12.420Z",
      "content": "<p>The intention is that DayNum=133 ordinals are the latest and most appropriate to use for predicting the tournament.  The final regular season games (a few conference tourney championships) happen on DayNum=132, and that is also when the tournament bracket is announced.  So something that applies to DayNum=133 will reflect all of the regular season games and none of the post-season games.  There have been some reports that earlier days work better as predictors, but you will have to work that out for yourself.  There will be a very short time window where you can make stage 2 submissions, and there will be new Massey Ordinals updates coming out during those days, for DayNum=133.  So even though DayNum=133 is a Monday, there may still be some systems whose final pre-tournament rankings are released on Tuesday and Wednesday, and I will try to keep updating those as part of the updated DayNum=133 release.</p>\n\n<p>The last day of the tournament is DayNum=154</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The intention is that DayNum=133 ordinals are the latest and most appropriate to use for predicting the tournament.  The final regular season games (a few conference tourney championships) happen on DayNum=132, and that is also when the tournament bracket is announced.  So something that applies to DayNum=133 will reflect all of the regular season games and none of the post-season games.  There have been some reports that earlier days work better as predictors, but you will have to work that out for yourself.  There will be a very short time window where you can make stage 2 submissions, and there will be new Massey Ordinals updates coming out during those days, for DayNum=133.  So even though DayNum=133 is a Monday, there may still be some systems whose final pre-tournament rankings are released on Tuesday and Wednesday, and I will try to keep updating those as part of the updated DayNum=133 release.\n\nThe last day of the tournament is DayNum=154",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 761180,
          "postDate": "2020-03-02T08:18:32.800Z",
          "content": "<p>Thank you very much for your explanations.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thank you very much for your explanations."
        }
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      "id": 760769,
      "postDate": "2020-03-01T17:49:32.190Z",
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 760802,
      "author_name": "Jeff Sonas",
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      "post_date": "2020-03-01T18:29:12.420000",
      "content": "<p>The intention is that DayNum=133 ordinals are the latest and most appropriate to use for predicting the tournament.  The final regular season games (a few conference tourney championships) happen on DayNum=132, and that is also when the tournament bracket is announced.  So something that applies to DayNum=133 will reflect all of the regular season games and none of the post-season games.  There have been some reports that earlier days work better as predictors, but you will have to work that out for yourself.  There will be a very short time window where you can make stage 2 submissions, and there will be new Massey Ordinals updates coming out during those days, for DayNum=133.  So even though DayNum=133 is a Monday, there may still be some systems whose final pre-tournament rankings are released on Tuesday and Wednesday, and I will try to keep updating those as part of the updated DayNum=133 release.</p>\n\n<p>The last day of the tournament is DayNum=154</p>",
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          "id": 761180,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-03-02T08:18:32.800000",
          "content": "<p>Thank you very much for your explanations.</p>",
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    "760476": "So a model that uses MMasseyOrdinals.csv for training, can it use day=133.\n\nMy suspect that it's the last day of the tournament and I won't have access to it in the stage2 for season 2020. Is this true?",
    "760802": "The intention is that DayNum=133 ordinals are the latest and most appropriate to use for predicting the tournament.  The final regular season games (a few conference tourney championships) happen on DayNum=132, and that is also when the tournament bracket is announced.  So something that applies to DayNum=133 will reflect all of the regular season games and none of the post-season games.  There have been some reports that earlier days work better as predictors, but you will have to work that out for yourself.  There will be a very short time window where you can make stage 2 submissions, and there will be new Massey Ordinals updates coming out during those days, for DayNum=133.  So even though DayNum=133 is a Monday, there may still be some systems whose final pre-tournament rankings are released on Tuesday and Wednesday, and I will try to keep updating those as part of the updated DayNum=133 release.\n\nThe last day of the tournament is DayNum=154",
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