{
  "id": 135062,
  "title": "It's official...no fans",
  "url": "/competitions/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/135062",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2020-03-11T20:49:29.643280Z",
  "votes": 8,
  "comment_count": 8,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/ncaa-no-fans-ncaa-mens-basketball-tournament/5025081002/\">https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/ncaa-no-fans-ncaa-mens-basketball-tournament/5025081002/</a></p>\n\n<p>My thoughts are that this WILL impact the outcomes of the games but I don't know how or how to quantify it. </p>",
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    {
      "id": "769364",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 20:49:29",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/ncaa-no-fans-ncaa-mens-basketball-tournament/5025081002/\">https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/ncaa-no-fans-ncaa-mens-basketball-tournament/5025081002/</a></p>\n\n<p>My thoughts are that this WILL impact the outcomes of the games but I don't know how or how to quantify it. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/ncaa-no-fans-ncaa-mens-basketball-tournament/5025081002/\n\nMy thoughts are that this WILL impact the outcomes of the games but I don't know how or how to quantify it.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "769371",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 21:03:38",
      "content": "<p>Fascinating. A day or two ago it looked like the NCAA was leaning toward not changing anything. Which I would expect given the economic impact of the games. I wonder if there will be more live streaming or any cool tech to give the players feedback from fans?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Fascinating. A day or two ago it looked like the NCAA was leaning toward not changing anything. Which I would expect given the economic impact of the games. I wonder if there will be more live streaming or any cool tech to give the players feedback from fans?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "769375",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 21:08:31",
      "content": "<p>It's going to be eerie watching a game without the fans and their noise. I suspect crowd noise will be pumped in. \nBut, this is going to be the new normal for a while I'm afraid. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It's going to be eerie watching a game without the fans and their noise. I suspect crowd noise will be pumped in. \nBut, this is going to be the new normal for a while I'm afraid.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "769377",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 21:08:43",
      "content": "<p>Wow. can't believe it's actually happening. <a href=\"/goodspellr\">@goodspellr</a> gave a few interesting thoughts here:</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/134322\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/134322</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Wow. can't believe it's actually happening. @goodspellr gave a few interesting thoughts here:\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/134322",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "769381",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 21:14:47",
      "content": "<p>I agree with <a href=\"/goodspellr\">@goodspellr</a> thoughts. \nI'm also looking at it from a momentum point of view. It seems to me that underdogs tend to get crowd support. How much of that is powered by a cheering crowd? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I agree with @goodspellr thoughts. \nI'm also looking at it from a momentum point of view. It seems to me that underdogs tend to get crowd support. How much of that is powered by a cheering crowd?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "769392",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 21:28:40",
      "content": "<p>Go ahead and throw out your geography features </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Go ahead and throw out your geography features",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "769422",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 22:17:44",
      "content": "<p>Hope they extend the amount of \"free hours\" you can stream through the NCAA.  They usually cap that ... severely impacting my ability to have four game windows open simultaneously.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hope they extend the amount of \"free hours\" you can stream through the NCAA.  They usually cap that ... severely impacting my ability to have four game windows open simultaneously.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "769451",
      "postDate": "03/11/2020 23:10:32",
      "content": "<p>So maybe a little bit of ignorance here on my part, but would a model that is trained to account for something like distance between team cities and is then set to 0 distance for the prediction do better than a model that doesn't take it into account at all? It still seems like you might be able to remove any effect of geography from past tournaments to make a more reliable prediction.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "So maybe a little bit of ignorance here on my part, but would a model that is trained to account for something like distance between team cities and is then set to 0 distance for the prediction do better than a model that doesn't take it into account at all? It still seems like you might be able to remove any effect of geography from past tournaments to make a more reliable prediction.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "770843",
      "postDate": "03/13/2020 13:24:50",
      "content": "<p>All I can think of is the sound of shoes skidding on hardwood :(</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "All I can think of is the sound of shoes skidding on hardwood :(",
      "votes": null
    }
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    {
      "id": 769371,
      "author_name": "jpmiller",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/11/2020 21:03:38",
      "content": "<p>Fascinating. A day or two ago it looked like the NCAA was leaning toward not changing anything. Which I would expect given the economic impact of the games. I wonder if there will be more live streaming or any cool tech to give the players feedback from fans?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 769422,
          "author_name": "thawatt",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "03/11/2020 22:17:44",
          "content": "<p>Hope they extend the amount of \"free hours\" you can stream through the NCAA.  They usually cap that ... severely impacting my ability to have four game windows open simultaneously.</p>",
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    {
      "id": 769375,
      "author_name": "btesch",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/11/2020 21:08:31",
      "content": "<p>It's going to be eerie watching a game without the fans and their noise. I suspect crowd noise will be pumped in. \nBut, this is going to be the new normal for a while I'm afraid. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 769377,
      "author_name": "rsa013",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/11/2020 21:08:43",
      "content": "<p>Wow. can't believe it's actually happening. <a href=\"/goodspellr\">@goodspellr</a> gave a few interesting thoughts here:</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/134322\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/134322</a></p>",
      "votes": null,
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    {
      "id": 769381,
      "author_name": "btesch",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/11/2020 21:14:47",
      "content": "<p>I agree with <a href=\"/goodspellr\">@goodspellr</a> thoughts. \nI'm also looking at it from a momentum point of view. It seems to me that underdogs tend to get crowd support. How much of that is powered by a cheering crowd? </p>",
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    {
      "id": 769392,
      "author_name": "marginalreturns",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/11/2020 21:28:40",
      "content": "<p>Go ahead and throw out your geography features </p>",
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        {
          "id": 769451,
          "author_name": "rsa013",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "03/11/2020 23:10:32",
          "content": "<p>So maybe a little bit of ignorance here on my part, but would a model that is trained to account for something like distance between team cities and is then set to 0 distance for the prediction do better than a model that doesn't take it into account at all? It still seems like you might be able to remove any effect of geography from past tournaments to make a more reliable prediction.</p>",
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      "id": 770843,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/13/2020 13:24:50",
      "content": "<p>All I can think of is the sound of shoes skidding on hardwood :(</p>",
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    "769364": "https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/ncaa-no-fans-ncaa-mens-basketball-tournament/5025081002/\n\nMy thoughts are that this WILL impact the outcomes of the games but I don't know how or how to quantify it.",
    "769371": "Fascinating. A day or two ago it looked like the NCAA was leaning toward not changing anything. Which I would expect given the economic impact of the games. I wonder if there will be more live streaming or any cool tech to give the players feedback from fans?",
    "769375": "It's going to be eerie watching a game without the fans and their noise. I suspect crowd noise will be pumped in. \nBut, this is going to be the new normal for a while I'm afraid.",
    "769377": "Wow. can't believe it's actually happening. @goodspellr gave a few interesting thoughts here:\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/134322",
    "769381": "I agree with @goodspellr thoughts. \nI'm also looking at it from a momentum point of view. It seems to me that underdogs tend to get crowd support. How much of that is powered by a cheering crowd?",
    "769392": "Go ahead and throw out your geography features",
    "769422": "Hope they extend the amount of \"free hours\" you can stream through the NCAA.  They usually cap that ... severely impacting my ability to have four game windows open simultaneously.",
    "769451": "So maybe a little bit of ignorance here on my part, but would a model that is trained to account for something like distance between team cities and is then set to 0 distance for the prediction do better than a model that doesn't take it into account at all? It still seems like you might be able to remove any effect of geography from past tournaments to make a more reliable prediction.",
    "770843": "All I can think of is the sound of shoes skidding on hardwood :("
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