{ "id": 135266, "title": "So this really sucks", "url": "/competitions/google-cloud-ncaa-march-madness-2020-division-1-mens-tournament/discussion/135266", "author_name": "Ben Tesch", "post_date": "2020-03-12T20:49:51.325000", "votes": 25, "comment_count": 27, "views": 0, "content": "

I started working on this comp long before it officially opened. I'm really disappointed.

\n\n

How much time has everyone put into this comp?\nI'm well over 100 hours.

", "messages": [ { "id": 770344, "postDate": "2020-03-12T20:49:51.327Z", "content": "

I started working on this comp long before it officially opened. I'm really disappointed.

\n\n

How much time has everyone put into this comp?\nI'm well over 100 hours.

", "rawMarkdown": "I started working on this comp long before it officially opened. I'm really disappointed. \n\nHow much time has everyone put into this comp?\nI'm well over 100 hours. ", "votes": 25 }, { "id": 770838, "postDate": "2020-03-13T13:20:50.327Z", "content": "

I spent more than 200 hours reading each word in discussions discovering popular kernels , i learned a lot from this competition and this is what's count really for me !

", "rawMarkdown": "I spent more than 200 hours reading each word in discussions discovering popular kernels , i learned a lot from this competition and this is what's count really for me !", "votes": 8 }, { "id": 770381, "postDate": "2020-03-12T21:28:56.883Z", "content": "

Of course ... . The year I decide to finally try my hand at March Madness ... . More time for model building, I suppose, since the training data won't really change for next year. Still sucks.

\n\n

FYI: Everyone's welcome to come over to join M5 Forecasting. We don't have cookies, but we have historical data that won't get infected ;-)

", "rawMarkdown": "Of course ... . The year I decide to finally try my hand at March Madness ... . More time for model building, I suppose, since the training data won't really change for next year. Still sucks.\n\nFYI: Everyone's welcome to come over to join [M5 Forecasting](https://www.kaggle.com/c/m5-forecasting-accuracy). We don't have cookies, but we have historical data that won't get infected ;-) ", "votes": 5, "replies": [ { "id": 770382, "postDate": "2020-03-12T21:30:33.037Z", "content": "

I'll meet you there.

", "rawMarkdown": "I'll meet you there. ", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 770496, "postDate": "2020-03-13T02:37:06.297Z", "content": "

sounds good, I may even be able to loop some co-workers in on this one. Worked on my own and waited too long w/ the NCAA contest.

", "rawMarkdown": "sounds good, I may even be able to loop some co-workers in on this one. Worked on my own and waited too long w/ the NCAA contest.", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 771454, "postDate": "2020-03-14T07:52:38.660Z", "content": "

@headsortails I've started on it:-)

", "rawMarkdown": "@headsortails I've started on it:-)" } ] }, { "id": 770443, "postDate": "2020-03-13T00:21:32.053Z", "content": "

Things that makes you spend a lot of time and effort, in general, improve yourself. You may think that it sucks now. Time will show you that you didn't loose it in vain and will bring you a new perspective. Think about that Ben.

", "rawMarkdown": " Things that makes you spend a lot of time and effort, in general, improve yourself. You may think that it sucks now. Time will show you that you didn't loose it in vain and will bring you a new perspective. Think about that Ben.", "votes": 4 }, { "id": 771071, "postDate": "2020-03-13T18:11:29.070Z", "content": "

@btesch Good news is that the analytics competition is still running, you can leverage all of your learning on this dataset into that competition.

", "rawMarkdown": "@btesch Good news is that the analytics competition is still running, you can leverage all of your learning on this dataset into that competition.", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 771084, "postDate": "2020-03-13T18:21:23.023Z", "content": "

That decision was made last night...\n😈 😈 😈

", "rawMarkdown": "That decision was made last night...\n😈 😈 😈 ", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 770456, "postDate": "2020-03-13T01:07:43.787Z", "content": "

I agree. But just like what the players, coaches, fans, referees (the list goes on and on) will be thinking: disappointing but understandable.

", "rawMarkdown": "I agree. But just like what the players, coaches, fans, referees (the list goes on and on) will be thinking: disappointing but understandable.", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 770350, "postDate": "2020-03-12T20:54:35.563Z", "content": "

I'm expecting this comp to return next year so whatever work you put in won't be for nothing.

", "rawMarkdown": "I'm expecting this comp to return next year so whatever work you put in won't be for nothing. ", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 770353, "postDate": "2020-03-12T20:57:28.480Z", "content": "

Assuming Kaggle holds it, you're right. \nBut I've learned a lot which is valuable.

", "rawMarkdown": "Assuming Kaggle holds it, you're right. \nBut I've learned a lot which is valuable. ", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 770494, "postDate": "2020-03-13T02:35:11.120Z", "content": "

True - I was looking at this before this year's competition even started. I was thinking they might not even have it but maybe it'd help me in the office pool....

", "rawMarkdown": "True - I was looking at this before this year's competition even started. I was thinking they might not even have it but maybe it'd help me in the office pool....", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 771969, "postDate": "2020-03-14T21:33:37.550Z", "content": "

I created or improved 4 kernels:

\n\n\n\n

I think it is 100-200 hours. My free evenings and my weekends...

", "rawMarkdown": "I created or improved 4 kernels:\n\n- tuning models in [MM NCAAM [No leaks]: LGB, XGB, LogReg](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/mm-ncaam-no-leaks-lgb-xgb-logreg) with 46 commits (202 forks),\n- adapted it kernel to other competition (for women): [MM NCAAW - LGB, XGB & Regr](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/mm-ncaaw-lgb-xgb-regr) with 15 commits (56 forks),\n- review of kernels and posts of winners of previous competitions in the kernel [Data Science for tabular data: Advanced Techniques](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/data-science-for-tabular-data-advanced-techniques), **section \"1.10. Google Cloud & NCAA® ML Competitions\"** (80 upvotes),\n- I added also some tools of the participants of the competitions of the current and past years to my collection [EDA for tabular data: Advanced Techniques](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/eda-for-tabular-data-advanced-techniques) (53 upvotes).\n\nI think it is 100-200 hours. My free evenings and my weekends...", "votes": 4 }, { "id": 770373, "postDate": "2020-03-12T21:22:07.060Z", "content": "

Less than 100 for me, but probably near 50 (I think?). Was looking forward to this as my first real Kaggle comp :(

", "rawMarkdown": "Less than 100 for me, but probably near 50 (I think?). Was looking forward to this as my first real Kaggle comp :(", "votes": 4 }, { "id": 770364, "postDate": "2020-03-12T21:06:57.503Z", "content": "

It's my favorite contest I play around with the data almost all year long. sigh It does suck.

", "rawMarkdown": "It's my favorite contest I play around with the data almost all year long. *sigh* It does suck.", "votes": 4 }, { "id": 770763, "postDate": "2020-03-13T11:25:54.500Z", "content": "

That's sad since analysis of basketball data is really captivating task :(

", "rawMarkdown": "That's sad since analysis of basketball data is really captivating task :(", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 770492, "postDate": "2020-03-13T02:33:50.513Z", "content": "

I put in a fair bit of time, but I learned a lot and had some fun. There's always next year, but I feel bad for Seniors who could have played in the NCAA tournament who won't have a next year.

", "rawMarkdown": "I put in a fair bit of time, but I learned a lot and had some fun. There's always next year, but I feel bad for Seniors who could have played in the NCAA tournament who won't have a next year.", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 771202, "postDate": "2020-03-13T21:31:44.253Z", "content": "

Yeah, This really sucks. I prefer to think this way to avoid self-pity :)

", "rawMarkdown": "Yeah, This really sucks. I prefer to think this way to avoid self-pity :)", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 770351, "postDate": "2020-03-12T20:54:56.650Z", "content": "

Didn't spend much time. From the beginning I regard this one as a lottery competition winning by luck. Now in this severe pandemic we don't have any other choice.

", "rawMarkdown": "Didn't spend much time. From the beginning I regard this one as a lottery competition winning by luck. Now in this severe pandemic we don't have any other choice. ", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 770386, "postDate": "2020-03-12T21:34:08.973Z", "content": "

Lottery ---kinda---some predictions are simply better than others.\nI felt like a I had a lottery ticket or two where the numbers had a decent probability of being called.

", "rawMarkdown": "Lottery ---kinda---some predictions are simply better than others.\nI felt like a I had a lottery ticket or two where the numbers had a decent probability of being called. ", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 770400, "postDate": "2020-03-12T21:57:31.687Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true } ] }, { "id": 771760, "postDate": "2020-03-14T15:37:26.620Z", "content": "

Great!

", "rawMarkdown": "Great!\n", "votes": -1 }, { "id": 1231786, "postDate": "2021-03-09T08:40:14.443Z", "content": "

I spent a lot of time on it, as well and on the sibling competition (for Women). It was disappointing because I could not have the final score, but on the other hand it was time worth spent (and in a pleasant way). The time was not lost as I can show the code to future employers.

", "rawMarkdown": "I spent a lot of time on it, as well and on the sibling competition (for Women). It was disappointing because I could not have the final score, but on the other hand it was time worth spent (and in a pleasant way). The time was not lost as I can show the code to future employers. " }, { "id": 771999, "postDate": "2020-03-14T22:38:14.347Z", "content": "

Great!

", "rawMarkdown": "Great!" }, { "id": 771802, "postDate": "2020-03-14T16:38:45.747Z", "content": "

i learned a lot from this competition

", "rawMarkdown": " i learned a lot from this competition" }, { "id": 770967, "postDate": "2020-03-13T16:12:16.647Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 2, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 770750, "postDate": "2020-03-13T11:00:18.727Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true } ], "comments": [ { "id": 770838, "author_name": "Yassine Hamdaoui", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T13:20:50.327000", "content": "

I spent more than 200 hours reading each word in discussions discovering popular kernels , i learned a lot from this competition and this is what's count really for me !

", "votes": 8, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770381, "author_name": "Heads or Tails", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T21:28:56.883000", "content": "

Of course ... . The year I decide to finally try my hand at March Madness ... . More time for model building, I suppose, since the training data won't really change for next year. Still sucks.

\n\n

FYI: Everyone's welcome to come over to join M5 Forecasting. We don't have cookies, but we have historical data that won't get infected ;-)

", "votes": 5, "replies": [ { "id": 770382, "author_name": "Ben Tesch", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T21:30:33.037000", "content": "

I'll meet you there.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770496, "author_name": "S Charlesworth", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T02:37:06.297000", "content": "

sounds good, I may even be able to loop some co-workers in on this one. Worked on my own and waited too long w/ the NCAA contest.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 771454, "author_name": "Trigram", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-14T07:52:38.660000", "content": "

@headsortails I've started on it:-)

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 770443, "author_name": "Marília Prata", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T00:21:32.053000", "content": "

Things that makes you spend a lot of time and effort, in general, improve yourself. You may think that it sucks now. Time will show you that you didn't loose it in vain and will bring you a new perspective. Think about that Ben.

", "votes": 4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 771071, "author_name": "TJ Klein", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T18:11:29.070000", "content": "

@btesch Good news is that the analytics competition is still running, you can leverage all of your learning on this dataset into that competition.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 771084, "author_name": "Ben Tesch", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T18:21:23.023000", "content": "

That decision was made last night...\n😈 😈 😈

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 770456, "author_name": "goto_conversion", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T01:07:43.787000", "content": "

I agree. But just like what the players, coaches, fans, referees (the list goes on and on) will be thinking: disappointing but understandable.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770350, "author_name": "Lu Bin Liu", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T20:54:35.563000", "content": "

I'm expecting this comp to return next year so whatever work you put in won't be for nothing.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 770353, "author_name": "Ben Tesch", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T20:57:28.480000", "content": "

Assuming Kaggle holds it, you're right. \nBut I've learned a lot which is valuable.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770494, "author_name": "S Charlesworth", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T02:35:11.120000", "content": "

True - I was looking at this before this year's competition even started. I was thinking they might not even have it but maybe it'd help me in the office pool....

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 771969, "author_name": "Vitalii Mokin", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-14T21:33:37.550000", "content": "

I created or improved 4 kernels:

\n\n\n\n

I think it is 100-200 hours. My free evenings and my weekends...

", "votes": 4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770373, "author_name": "Ryan Armstrong", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T21:22:07.060000", "content": "

Less than 100 for me, but probably near 50 (I think?). Was looking forward to this as my first real Kaggle comp :(

", "votes": 4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770364, "author_name": "Michael Maguire", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T21:06:57.503000", "content": "

It's my favorite contest I play around with the data almost all year long. sigh It does suck.

", "votes": 4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770763, "author_name": "Maksim Zhdanov", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T11:25:54.500000", "content": "

That's sad since analysis of basketball data is really captivating task :(

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770492, "author_name": "S Charlesworth", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T02:33:50.513000", "content": "

I put in a fair bit of time, but I learned a lot and had some fun. There's always next year, but I feel bad for Seniors who could have played in the NCAA tournament who won't have a next year.

", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 771202, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T21:31:44.253000", "content": "

Yeah, This really sucks. I prefer to think this way to avoid self-pity :)

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 770351, "author_name": "Jie Lu", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T20:54:56.650000", "content": "

Didn't spend much time. From the beginning I regard this one as a lottery competition winning by luck. Now in this severe pandemic we don't have any other choice.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 770386, "author_name": "Ben Tesch", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T21:34:08.973000", "content": "

Lottery ---kinda---some predictions are simply better than others.\nI felt like a I had a lottery ticket or two where the numbers had a decent probability of being called.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770400, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-12T21:57:31.687000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 771760, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-14T15:37:26.620000", "content": "

Great!

", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1231786, "author_name": "Catadanna", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-09T08:40:14.443000", "content": "

I spent a lot of time on it, as well and on the sibling competition (for Women). It was disappointing because I could not have the final score, but on the other hand it was time worth spent (and in a pleasant way). The time was not lost as I can show the code to future employers.

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 771999, "author_name": "Iheb Bouzayeni", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-14T22:38:14.347000", "content": "

Great!

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 771802, "author_name": "Shahriar Sohan", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-14T16:38:45.747000", "content": "

i learned a lot from this competition

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770967, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T16:12:16.647000", "content": "", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 770750, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-03-13T11:00:18.727000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "770344": "I started working on this comp long before it officially opened. I'm really disappointed. \n\nHow much time has everyone put into this comp?\nI'm well over 100 hours. ", "770838": "I spent more than 200 hours reading each word in discussions discovering popular kernels , i learned a lot from this competition and this is what's count really for me !", "770381": "Of course ... . The year I decide to finally try my hand at March Madness ... . More time for model building, I suppose, since the training data won't really change for next year. Still sucks.\n\nFYI: Everyone's welcome to come over to join [M5 Forecasting](https://www.kaggle.com/c/m5-forecasting-accuracy). We don't have cookies, but we have historical data that won't get infected ;-) ", "770443": " Things that makes you spend a lot of time and effort, in general, improve yourself. You may think that it sucks now. Time will show you that you didn't loose it in vain and will bring you a new perspective. Think about that Ben.", "771071": "@btesch Good news is that the analytics competition is still running, you can leverage all of your learning on this dataset into that competition.", "770456": "I agree. But just like what the players, coaches, fans, referees (the list goes on and on) will be thinking: disappointing but understandable.", "770350": "I'm expecting this comp to return next year so whatever work you put in won't be for nothing. ", "771969": "I created or improved 4 kernels:\n\n- tuning models in [MM NCAAM [No leaks]: LGB, XGB, LogReg](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/mm-ncaam-no-leaks-lgb-xgb-logreg) with 46 commits (202 forks),\n- adapted it kernel to other competition (for women): [MM NCAAW - LGB, XGB & Regr](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/mm-ncaaw-lgb-xgb-regr) with 15 commits (56 forks),\n- review of kernels and posts of winners of previous competitions in the kernel [Data Science for tabular data: Advanced Techniques](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/data-science-for-tabular-data-advanced-techniques), **section \"1.10. Google Cloud & NCAA® ML Competitions\"** (80 upvotes),\n- I added also some tools of the participants of the competitions of the current and past years to my collection [EDA for tabular data: Advanced Techniques](https://www.kaggle.com/vbmokin/eda-for-tabular-data-advanced-techniques) (53 upvotes).\n\nI think it is 100-200 hours. My free evenings and my weekends...", "770373": "Less than 100 for me, but probably near 50 (I think?). Was looking forward to this as my first real Kaggle comp :(", "770364": "It's my favorite contest I play around with the data almost all year long. *sigh* It does suck.", "770763": "That's sad since analysis of basketball data is really captivating task :(", "770492": "I put in a fair bit of time, but I learned a lot and had some fun. There's always next year, but I feel bad for Seniors who could have played in the NCAA tournament who won't have a next year.", "770351": "Didn't spend much time. From the beginning I regard this one as a lottery competition winning by luck. Now in this severe pandemic we don't have any other choice. ", "771760": "Great!\n", "1231786": "I spent a lot of time on it, as well and on the sibling competition (for Women). It was disappointing because I could not have the final score, but on the other hand it was time worth spent (and in a pleasant way). The time was not lost as I can show the code to future employers. ", "771999": "Great!", "771802": " i learned a lot from this competition", "770967": "", "770750": "" } }